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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#721 » by Tekkenlaw » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:30 pm

I'd take Miller, near perfect fit here.
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Post#722 » by semi-sentient » Wed Jun 23, 2010 4:58 pm

iamworthy wrote:
But whoever signs with the Lakers will have to take a pay cut because they don't plan on using the mid-level exception to sign a player. They will be looking to sign an experienced big man for the veteran's minimum, which will be as much as $1.325 million for a player with 10 years or more of experience.



http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lak ... 8566.story


Sigh. That's disturbing news.

Hopefully we are exploring some trade ideas that involve Bynum. Perhaps that's why they're looking for another veteran big instead of addressing our actual needs (guards).
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#723 » by cvballa23 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:05 pm

Mike Miller is by far the best option due to the fact that he is far more reliable physically. He is also the best shooter of the 3 even though Bell has a slightly better career % than Miller, but not by much. Kobe, Artest and Fisher are all on the back side of their careers and we need reliable backup. If Miller is willing to take $3 mil per or less for 2 years then I would def do it!

And that doesnt mean we can't also sign Bell since no one in the league is going to give him much more than the league minimum anyway. We have a lot of minimum slots to fill as we only have 7 players currently under contract if Shannon opts out.

And if T-mac wants to take the minimum as well we should do it. We are going to be paying someone since we have to have 12 players on the roster on opening night. If you include 2 second round picks we should be close.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#724 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:05 pm

^^disturbing indeed considering farmar/brown/powell/mbengal/ammo are all gone, how the hell we are gona fill out the rest of the bench with an LLE? I hope they're not planning on using both 2nd rders along with that 2nd from last year.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#725 » by semi-sentient » Wed Jun 23, 2010 5:08 pm

BTW, assuming we let Farmar go and Brown opts out, in addition to paying Fisher about $2.5 million per year, we're looking at about $74.5 million in salary. If we decided to resign DJ and Powell for what they made last year, then that puts us at around $76.5 million. Signing Bell with the vets min would put us at around $78 million (let's assume he becomes the Ron Harper type), so why not spend our MLE on Miller to back up Kobe? That would put us at around $84 million, which is $7 million less than last season and right around the same amount that teams like the Mavericks and Magic are paying (and probably a few others once guys like Wade, LeBron, and Bosh are signed).

We are the most profitable franchise in the league, and deep playoff runs just generates even more profit. This is kind of a dumb time to be cheap when we're on the verge of yet another dynasty and there are so many quality players available, and need.
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#726 » by DubaLakers » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:00 pm

Miller no question, TMac is held together by band aids, Raja is limited.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#727 » by daddyfivestar » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:04 pm

Semi your #s are off (unless you are already taking players out like Vuja or Bynum).

Its already 81.5 just for the 7 under contract - KB, Pau, Bynum, Khlodom, Ron, Vuja, Luke, presuming Brown Farmar gone.

You added Fish (2.5 fair and a 50% paycut), and DJ-Peezy (2 m) = 4.5 more

Total = 86 mil with 3 roster slots left to fill.

Add an mle and you're into the 90s.

I think Bynum may be moved for salary relief to be honest, which would suck.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#728 » by The Skyhook » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:27 pm

daddyfivestar wrote:Semi your #s are off (unless you are already taking players out like Vuja or Bynum).

Its already 81.5 just for the 7 under contract - KB, Pau, Bynum, Khlodom, Ron, Vuja, Luke, presuming Brown Farmar gone.

You added Fish (2.5 fair and a 50% paycut), and DJ-Peezy (2 m) = 4.5 more

Total = 86 mil with 3 roster slots left to fill.

Add an mle and you're into the 90s.

I think Bynum may be moved for salary relief to be honest, which would suck.

Yepp I'm starting to get the feeling that the FO is thinking about possible Bynum moves due to our current financial situation. The Lakers want to basically keep the same salary going into next season but it could be impossible to do especially with Farmar and Brown gone. I feel like because of this DJ and Josh will be back because they appear to be very loyal to this team despite lack of play time. Once Mitch said that they most likely won't be using the MLE you got the sense that some moves could be made. Bynum for Bosh is out of the question now for sure me thinks because no way the Lakers will carve that deep into the salary.

The question is what sort of trades would the Lakers be open to while getting a big in return and a starting or perhaps a bench player? I'm thinking the Lakers could even entertain offers involving Lamar Odom. If it comes down to it don't be surprised with the same roster as last season minus Farmar and Ammo being replaced by rookies.
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#729 » by The Skyhook » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:55 pm

j-far wrote:Miller > Bell > Mac.

Miller is an underrated defender too.

cosigned.

Aki as for Roger Mason Jr. I think he could also be a solid fit here. I would probably put him ahead of Raja Bell because of age and he isn't coming off of surgery the way Raja is.
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Post#730 » by ALL HAIL » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:17 pm

Sign ALL free agents this summer (with the exception of LBJ-fingers crossed) to two year deals:

Mike Miller - 2.5 million
Raja Bell - 1.5 million
Shaun Livingston - 1.5 million

And bring back Fisher (2 mill), Brown (1.5 mill), and Powell and Mbenga (for the minimum).

These numbers can happen folks ... that's kind of scary for everyone else.

I tell you what, if LBJ doesn't come here, he had better go somewhere else where they have more good players because if the Lakers pull off Miller, Bell, and Livingston, all for the 5.5 MLE, Kupchak can sleep very easy. His only task would be dumping Vujacic's contract on a team with space.
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#731 » by The Skyhook » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:22 pm

ALL HAIL wrote:Sign ALL free agents this summer (with the exception of LBJ-fingers crossed) to two year deals:

Mike Miller - 2.5 million
Raja Bell - 1.5 million
Shaun Livingston - 1.5 million

And bring back Fisher (2 mill), Brown (1.5 mill), and Powell and Mbenga (for the minimum).

These numbers can happen folks ... that's kind of scary for everyone else.

I tell you what, if LBJ doesn't come here, he had better go somewhere else where they have more good players because if the Lakers pull off Miller, Bell, and Livingston, all for the 5.5 MLE, Kupchak can sleep very easy. His only task would be dumping Vujacic's contract on a team with space.

No way Miller comes here for 2 years at only 2.5 mil. He will be looking for a contract similar to Ron's. The guy will get the MLE tossed at him. I can see Boston or Miami being one of those teams. Perhaps if Chicago moves Hinrich they would pursue Miller for the MLE with a starting roll.
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#732 » by Gerald3Wallace » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:25 pm

Miller or bell

no to tmac
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#733 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:33 pm

Dr. Buss while wanting to cut cost is still going to put out the best product on the floor, I'm for trading Bynum but I never seen a Laker team trade away an assest just to save money.
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#734 » by LApwnd » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:39 pm

The Skyhook wrote:
ALL HAIL wrote:Sign ALL free agents this summer (with the exception of LBJ-fingers crossed) to two year deals:

Mike Miller - 2.5 million
Raja Bell - 1.5 million
Shaun Livingston - 1.5 million

And bring back Fisher (2 mill), Brown (1.5 mill), and Powell and Mbenga (for the minimum).

These numbers can happen folks ... that's kind of scary for everyone else.

I tell you what, if LBJ doesn't come here, he had better go somewhere else where they have more good players because if the Lakers pull off Miller, Bell, and Livingston, all for the 5.5 MLE, Kupchak can sleep very easy. His only task would be dumping Vujacic's contract on a team with space.

No way Miller comes here for 2 years at only 2.5 mil. He will be looking for a contract similar to Ron's. The guy will get the MLE tossed at him. I can see Boston or Miami being one of those teams. Perhaps if Chicago moves Hinrich they would pursue Miller for the MLE with a starting roll.


on top of that Brown isn't taking 1.5 :lol: , guy is making $2 now and is looking for more and longer and Hail you think he'll come back for 1.5? :lol:, in terms of topic I def. have Miller at the top, wanted him since I saw his comments bout winning more so then money, guy is a Odom clone with better shooting, in the sense that he does everything, rebs/passing, creating for others and himself, he is FAR from a spot up shooter as some have called him.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#735 » by chefy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:47 pm

I don't know man, I'm not that high on that article...if it didn't came from mitch's mouth then I say BS

no GM would make that statement/final decision that early. that's almost the same as the "lakers are shoppin bynum" news, that appeared the next day just after game 7.
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#736 » by supaflash » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:54 pm

Problem really isn't going to be what we can offer, more then what other teams can.

Unfortunately we are in a pretty much sit and wait place except in the case that we target one guy right away and give the full MLE, which is unlikely.

Miller, Korver, TMac, Bell, Morrow, Watson, Reddick... they are all going to get some money thrown at them so we might not even have a chance...
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Post#737 » by chefy » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:12 pm

with the acquisition of maggette...bucks might not be lookin to resign salmons. so don't rule him out. salmons would be another great fit for the lakers, can play pointguard/sg/sf, good D, good athleticism,/ slashing abilities.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#738 » by The Skyhook » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:21 pm

chefy wrote:with the acquisition of maggette...bucks might not be lookin to resign salmons. so don't rule him out. salmons would be another great fit for the lakers, can play pointguard/sg/sf, good D, good athleticism,/ slashing abilities.

True but I think the Bucks are going to be offering him a nice extension. If the Bucks don't resign him i would like to see the Lakers go after him.

I think the Lakers should try and buy picks. Rumors are Miami and the Hawks are selling their picks. Imagine if the Lakers had the 18th and 24th picks. Those could turn into solid players in the draft and maybe packaging those 2 picks could even land you something in the lottery.

It would be nice to see Daniel Orton and Eric Bledsoe land here.
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Re: Better fit T-mac or Raja or Mike Miller? 

Post#739 » by dula14 » Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:39 pm

The better fit on the floor and financially is Bell. He is the perfect role player in the Laker system with his ability to defend and shoot. Heck the Lakers may actually be able to get both Bell and T-mac (Bell with part of the MLE and T-Mac with the vet min). Miller might be too expensive.
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Re: Official Transaction Ideas thread 

Post#740 » by The Skyhook » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:47 pm

Wow the Thunder just got Daequan Cook and the 18th pick for the 32nd pick in a trade with Miami. Looks like Miami is going all out with cap space. I knew the Lakers could have bought that damn pick. Not it makes the Thunder stronger who I consider a legit threat out West.

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