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#13 for Fernandez+#22 (Deal dead, pg. 26)

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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#341 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:11 pm

From all the chatter it sounds like Portland is leaking all kinds of stuff trying to boost the value of their assets. The whole Batum is worth more than the 4th seems entirely fishy. Waiting to hear from them that Pendergraph is untouchable.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#342 » by KenPiffilousIII » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:23 pm

not sure if it means anything but sportsnet reported raptors are close to acquiring rudy
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#343 » by LittleOzzy » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:24 pm

KenPiffilousIII wrote:not sure if it means anything but sportsnet reported raptors are close to acquiring rudy


Doesn't mean a thing when most people who work for Sportsnet are still trying to figure out who the Raptors are.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#344 » by Rhettmatic » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:25 pm

KenPiffilousIII wrote:not sure if it means anything but sportsnet reported raptors are close to acquiring rudy


I don't even think Sportsnet has any real Raptors reporters, so I'm guessing it was just someone overnight embellishing the ESPN rumour for their ticker.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#345 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:27 pm

how about paul jones?
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#346 » by NH » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:34 pm

I rather trade Marco and 13th pick for Joel Priz and 22nd. Have no need for Fernandez on this team.. Let Demar and Sonny grow instead.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#347 » by Champipple » Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:47 pm

I seriously doubt this happens. After some consideration, I think BC will try to move up, not down unless he's unloading a bad contract.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#348 » by Econgrad » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:06 pm

The only interest I would have in this is if it involved shipping out Calderon or Turkoglu going to the Blazers and getting Przybilla and Pendergraph or Patty Mills back.

Pritchard is in a tough place as he's only got about a week left in his tenure. GMs should put the screws to him in any deal.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#349 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:09 pm

If you go to Raptors.com watch the raptors draft preview show, and count how many times it was mentioned that the guy you want at 13 may be there at 22, and see if you don't think BC would be seriously considering getting Rudy for the opportunity to pay the draft pick less. If they want Ebanks, a rebounding defensive SF, who everyone forgets has been in twice just like Cole and Bradely, and 13 is too high, why not solve that problem by getting Rudy for nothing.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#350 » by Canuck10 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:17 pm

Would dealing for Rudy Fernandez essentially solidify the fact that Calderon is staying and Jack will be the PG that will be dealt?
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#351 » by Ripp » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:18 pm

Econgrad wrote:The only interest I would have in this is if it involved shipping out Calderon or Turkoglu going to the Blazers and getting Przybilla and Pendergraph or Patty Mills back.

Pritchard is in a tough place as he's only got about a week left in his tenure. GMs should put the screws to him in any deal.


How does him being a lame duck affect things? He has claimed publicly he'll still do a really good job. In any case, there will be heavy scrutiny on his moves, so very unlikely he screws up..
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#352 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:19 pm

Canuck10 wrote:Would dealing for Rudy Fernandez essentially solidify the fact that Calderon is staying and Jack will be the PG that will be dealt?


Why would it, because Jose's from Spain too. BC is not building Noah's arc here.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#353 » by SDM » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:23 pm

Ripp wrote:
Econgrad wrote:The only interest I would have in this is if it involved shipping out Calderon or Turkoglu going to the Blazers and getting Przybilla and Pendergraph or Patty Mills back.

Pritchard is in a tough place as he's only got about a week left in his tenure. GMs should put the screws to him in any deal.


How does him being a lame duck affect things? He has claimed publicly he'll still do a really good job. In any case, there will be heavy scrutiny on his moves, so very unlikely he screws up..


If he even has permission to make a move...
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#354 » by SDM » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:24 pm

The more I think about this trade, the more I hate it.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#355 » by heemer » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:26 pm

There doesn’t seem to be a lot going on at the 13th pick. It almost seems like BC really has to move up, move down, or move out. Deal the pick if it can help unload a bad contract. That would likely have a bigger long term impact on the team than whoever we could get at 13 in this draft
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#356 » by Canuck10 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:27 pm

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan wrote:
Canuck10 wrote:Would dealing for Rudy Fernandez essentially solidify the fact that Calderon is staying and Jack will be the PG that will be dealt?


Why would it, because Jose's from Spain too. BC is not building Noah's arc here.


They play on the national team together, so they are familiar with each other,

thats all I was getting at.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#357 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:35 pm

I know, I don't need to be snarky, but I think the only person BC tries to make happy with other players was Bosh. He may try to make players comfortable, for reasons of results, but I do not believe getting Rudy would mean Jack would be dealt. Maybe Jack get's dealt due to fetching a better return?
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#358 » by bigdirty » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:39 pm

SDM wrote:The more I think about this trade, the more I hate it.


Pretty much. It's trades like this that make teams like Portland great and ours trash. I'd say Colangelo is top 5 worst GM in the league if he makes this trade.
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#359 » by Wo1verine » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:41 pm

Yeah, this trade sucks balls for us..
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Re: Tor/Por Discussion #13 for Fernandez+#22 (Rumour) 

Post#360 » by SDM » Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:48 pm

bigdirty wrote:
SDM wrote:The more I think about this trade, the more I hate it.


Pretty much. It's trades like this that make teams like Portland great and ours trash. I'd say Colangelo is top 5 worst GM in the league if he makes this trade.


Yup. I'll get my Bryan Colangelo tattoo changed to a tiger if this trade goes through.

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