Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010

KevinFCheng · Post #81 » by **KevinFCheng** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 4:41 am

hands11 wrote:
KevinFCheng wrote:^ You would trade Wall for Wesley Johnson + future filler? Really? Really now?

This from the guy with Nick Young as his picture.

Really? You're gonna judge my argument by my avatar picture? Really now?
:wink:

hands11 · Post #82 » by **hands11** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 4:50 am

KevinFCheng wrote:
hands11 wrote:
KevinFCheng wrote:^ You would trade Wall for Wesley Johnson + future filler? Really? Really now?

This from the guy with Nick Young as his picture.

Really? You're gonna judge my argument by my avatar picture? Really now?

Absolutely.

omegatronic3 · Post #83 » by **omegatronic3** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:04 am

we suck compared to the top teams in the east.

IMO we should have gone after someone in fa

Hoopalotta · Post #84 » by **Hoopalotta** » Thu Jul 8, 2010 11:33 am

omegatronic3 wrote:we suck compared to the top teams in the east.

IMO we should have gone after someone in fa

How many teams have used this free agent signing period to their advantage? And did we need a power forward?

Hoopalotta · Post #85 » by **Hoopalotta** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 12:42 am

Hmmm, this sounds good...

MikeJonesSports Ernie Grunfeld said @bigdaddywookie JaVale McGee has gotten bigger, adding muscle and growing an inch to stand 7-1.

Was the skinny look from the iron man video all just CGI then?

Post #86 » by **nate33** » Fri Jul 9, 2010 1:11 am

Hoopalotta wrote:Hmmm, this sounds good...

MikeJonesSports Ernie Grunfeld said @bigdaddywookie JaVale McGee has gotten bigger, adding muscle and growing an inch to stand 7-1.

Was the skinny look from the iron man video all just CGI then?

The kid has mad youtube skills.

Benjammin · Post #87 » by **Benjammin** » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:24 pm

I've really come around in wanting the Wizards to eschew the tank this season and seek to be a playoff team, for the experience and the ability to grow. In order to do that, I think the 3 spot has to be strengthened significantly. I'm not up for giving JChill a four or five year deal at significant money so perhaps Josh Howard for a two year deal might be possible. I'd feel better about that if the Wizards had a competent medical staff who feel confident that Josh will be a good bet for the contract he signs. Even losing 4-0 in the first round would still give Wall, McGee, Blatche, and the other young guys a taste of the playoffs and how a level of play is required to be successful in the playoffs.

verbal8 · Post #88 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:46 pm

It looks like the roster is shaping up:

PG: Wall, Hinrich
SG: Arenas, Young
SF: Thornton, Booker
PF: Blatche, Yi, Seraphin
C: McGee, Hilton Armstrong, Hamady N'Diaye

I think Lester Hudson and Cartier Martin will probably be picked up from the Summer League squad. They may leave a spot open to pick up a promising D-Leaguer or a player that gets waived. I would say the only question mark is if they try to bring Josh Howard back.

301baller · Post #89 » by **301baller** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:17 pm

verbal8 wrote:It looks like the roster is shaping up:

PG: Wall, Hinrich
SG: Arenas, Young
SF: Thornton, Booker
PF: Blatche, Yi, Seraphin
C: McGee, Hilton Armstrong, Hamady N'Diaye

I think Lester Hudson and Cartier Martin will probably be picked up from the Summer League squad. They may leave a spot open to pick up a promising D-Leaguer or a player that gets waived. I would say the only question mark is if they try to bring Josh Howard back.

i could see lester hudson and cartier martin helping us out. aaron petway showed flashes.
it'd be nice if we could run across a reggie williams type player for SF. golden state has him signed thru next year at the league minimum, this guy can give you 15-20 pts a game easily.

verbal8 · Post #90 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:08 pm

301baller wrote:
verbal8 wrote:It looks like the roster is shaping up:

PG: Wall, Hinrich
SG: Arenas, Young
SF: Thornton, Booker
PF: Blatche, Yi, Seraphin
C: McGee, Hilton Armstrong, Hamady N'Diaye

I think Lester Hudson and Cartier Martin will probably be picked up from the Summer League squad. They may leave a spot open to pick up a promising D-Leaguer or a player that gets waived. I would say the only question mark is if they try to bring Josh Howard back.

i could see lester hudson and cartier martin helping us out. aaron petway showed flashes.
it'd be nice if we could run across a reggie williams type player for SF. golden state has him signed thru next year at the league minimum, this guy can give you 15-20 pts a game easily.

You mean someone like Alonzo Gee lol

I try not to harp on it too much, because in the scheme of things it is not a big deal. I hope Booker T and/or Thornton emerges this year and make me forget about Gee.

Jimmy Recard · Post #91 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:01 am

verbal8 wrote:It looks like the roster is shaping up:

PG: Wall, Hinrich
SG: Arenas, Young
SF: Thornton, Booker
PF: Blatche, Yi, Seraphin
C: McGee, Hilton Armstrong, Hamady N'Diaye

I agree with this except i think we'll see Kirk backing up the 2 and playing minutes with Wall aswell. I think Young will play anywhere from 5-20 minutes a night backing up Thornton.

Looking at this line-up though, man we are gonna be fun to watch. I know we'll be a disaster on defense, but who cares at this point, as long as were developing the core. Imagine Wall in the open court running the break, he's got Thornton on one side, Gil on the other (or Kirk pulling up at the 3 point line) with Mcgee trailing. Fun times ahead.

pancakes3 · Post #92 » by **pancakes3** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:28 am

if wall's out ahead running the break, we only need to send mcgee to clean up the mess IFF wall misses. wall in the open court is pretty much a lock for either buckets and/or a foul.

Jimmy Recard · Post #93 » by **Jimmy Recard** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:08 am

Definitely at the college level, NBA's transition D is light years ahead though. The only guy in the league right now that can guarantee a bucket and/or foul running a break by himself is LeBron, and maybe Wade.

pancakes3 · Post #94 » by **pancakes3** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:38 am

i was commenting more about his speed than his finishing ability. if he's leading the break, unlike larry hughes, he can actually get to the rim before the defender can even ready himself for a charge. toss in the ambidextricity and vince-like hops and you've got a guy who's pretty much the best pg finisher of all time.

dangermouse · Post #95 » by **dangermouse** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:52 am

Starting lineup until Blatche is ready to roll:

pg: J.Wall
sg: G.Arenas
sf: A.Thornton
pf: J.Yi
c: J.McGee

Yuck. Teams gonna have their way inside. Back court has the chance to be something really special though. But if you look at it, its going to be raw as well. Not only does Gil have to remember how to play off the ball for the most part, he has to remember how to play at all. Wall will be learning the ropes still. I think we'll be stinking out loud for the first two months or so, and then it will be like someone flicked on the light switch and we'll start playing much better, but i dont see any more than 30 to 32 wins in the crystal ball.

Hoopalotta · Post #96 » by **Hoopalotta** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:35 am

dangermouse wrote:Starting lineup until Blatche is ready to roll:

pg: J.Wall
sg: G.Arenas
sf: A.Thornton
pf: J.Yi
c: J.McGee

Yuck. Teams gonna have their way inside. Back court has the chance to be something really special though. But if you look at it, its going to be raw as well. Not only does Gil have to remember how to play off the ball for the most part, he has to remember how to play at all. Wall will be learning the ropes still. I think we'll be stinking out loud for the first two months or so, and then it will be like someone flicked on the light switch and we'll start playing much better, but i dont see any more than 30 to 32 wins in the crystal ball.

Yeah, pretty well like that. Aside from talent, there's an awful lot of inexperience, as well as being in the bottom 20% as far as continuity (which is really saying something considering the player turnover around the league).

I have seen some references of late to Yi and Armstrong as being deep bench guys, but I don't know who we're expecting to beat them out.

I'm thinking the healthy rotation would be:

C - McGee (24) / Armstrong or Seraphin (12) / Blatche (12) McGee's minutes will vary wildly based on fouls and matchups

PF - Blatche (24) / Yi (24) - some chance that Booker snatches minutes from Yi or Armstrong/Seraphin if we go small

SF - Totally wide open as of now. To me, Thornton ideally gets about 24 minutes, but off the bench so that he can be more like a third option when he's on the court. He's the best player, but maybe the worst fit as he needs his touches and isn't much of a spot up shooter. He's also wildly streaky and ill-disciplined. Booker? Young? Martin? Hudson? AMMO? Morgan? A veteran free agent? Aunt Maybelle?

SG - Arenas (34) / Hinrich (8?) if a swingman or Nick gets into the rotation at the 3, they get the rest of the minutes here; otherwise, more for Hiney, I guess

PG - Wall (34) / Hinrich (14)

It's a total development roster, which is absolutely fine by me, but I mean, that's not pretty by any stretch of the imagination if you're hungry for wins. Least experienced interior in the league. Easily a bottom five rotation as far as small forward, possibly worse. Very high potential for turnovers. If you're like me, you'll enjoy it all, but if you want the 6th seed, less so.

The only thing that takes that squad to the playoffs is if the backcourt is well beyond dynamite from jump and the ramshackle collection of bigs somehow does better defensively in the interior than they have any business doing. Actually, if everyone else bellow the Bobcats in the Eastern pecking order completely sucks, that could potentially do it, but I would expect at least one or two teams to get it together.

MJG · Post #97 » by **MJG** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:06 am

I agree that our main roster is feeling fairly complete at this point. I wouldn't expect anyone we pick up from here on out to get 10+ MPG nightly out of the gate. I'm seeing a rotation like:

PG: Wall (34), Hinrich (14)
SG: Arenas (36), Hinrich (12)
SF: Thornton (28), Young (10), Booker (10)
PF: Blatche (24), Jianlian (20), Seraphin (4)
C: McGee (26), Blatche (12), Seraphin (10)

You know, it's really a hodgepodge when you try to break into specific numbers like that. An easier breakdown might be something like:

30s: Arenas, Wall, Blatche
20s: Hinrich, McGee, Thornton
10s: Jianlian, Young, Booker, Seraphin

I think we can expect to see lots of unbalanced lineups that make use of our fairly open SF spot (Young or Hinrich playing alongside Wall/Arenas, Jianlian or Booker playing alongside Blatche/McGee, etc) and lots of yo-yoing with the minutes of the guys not in our obvious top six based on who's hot or having good practices or whatever (ie Booker may get 18 minutes one night, then 2 the next).

dangermouse · Post #98 » by **dangermouse** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:04 pm

Hoopalotta wrote:C - McGee (24) / Armstrong or Seraphin (12) / Blatche (12) McGee's minutes will vary wildly based on fouls and matchups

The way McGee jumps through the roof on every hint of a pump-fake, I think we'll see Booker get 12-14mins at C.

Jokes aside, I'd hate to go this route, but I think Blatche will have a role taking minutes at C. We just dont have anyone else. The upside to this is Booker getting PF mins, and I like his quicks/toughness/defense that he brings. Going small-ball run and gun could be a good thing. We probably wont win a lot but we will sure be fun to watch and garner a lot of attention.

verbal8 · Post #99 » by **verbal8** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:14 pm

dangermouse wrote:
Hoopalotta wrote:C - McGee (24) / Armstrong or Seraphin (12) / Blatche (12) McGee's minutes will vary wildly based on fouls and matchups

The way McGee jumps through the roof on every hint of a pump-fake, I think we'll see Booker get 12-14mins at C.

Jokes aside, I'd hate to go this route, but I think Blatche will have a role taking minutes at C. We just dont have anyone else. The upside to this is Booker getting PF mins, and I like his quicks/toughness/defense that he brings. Going small-ball run and gun could be a good thing. We probably wont win a lot but we will sure be fun to watch and garner a lot of attention.

Wall might be more effective in a small ball line-up that can push the pace and take advantage of transition opportunities. I think where he will struggle is in the half-court when defenses have a chance to get set. I also think that McGee and Booker will be far more effective in transition rather than 1/2 court.

Post #100 » by **nate33** » Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:25 pm

I think Young is going to get a lot more minutes than many of you think. I think Young will prove to be a more effective player than Hinrich at SG and he'll get a lot of minutes at SF.

PG: Wall (36), Hinrich (12)
SG: Arenas (34), Hinrich (6), Young (8)
SF: Thornton (26), Young (14), Booker (8)
PF: Blatche (24), Jianlian (20), Booker (4)
C: McGee (26), Blatche (12), Armstrong (10)

Man, if we could just trade Hinrich for an equivalently talented veteran at the SF position, this rotation would look A LOT better. This would be nice:

PG: Wall (36), Arenas (12)
SG: Arenas (24), Young (24)
SF: Battier (28), Thornton (20)
PF: Blatche (24), Jianlian (16), Booker (8)
C: McGee (26), Blatche (12), Armstrong (10)

One simple move turns a 30 win team into a 40 win team.