Toronto Raptors 2010 Official Trade Ideas Thread

[TDotRep]

Memphis is not gonna swap picks, especially when they are giving up the former the 2nd overall pick and another expiring prospect for Jose, and the fact that they have key FA's for them coming up, thats why if NO gets conley than I think they would be willing to give them a top 3 protected pick but realistically top 5 protected. Which would appease memphis more.

you dont get it. Memphis gets the choice to swap picks. So if NOH pick is worse than theirs, they dont do it, if NOH has a higher pick then them they do it. Refer back to the Houston/New York trade, Houston has the rights to swap with New York in 2011 (the pick is #1 overall protected), but if Houston misses the playoffs, ends up with a high pick and NYK ends up making the playoffs, they decline the option to swap picks. Get it more now? Im not even saying NOH would do that i said what incentive would they add to dump Poseys deal before the new CBA in 2011. I think they could potentially give up a decent amount. For Rasual Butlers 3 million expiring deal last year they gave the Clippers 3 million cash (pays for his salary) + a 2nd round pick. And thats for an expiring contract, what would they give to dump Poseys 6.8 next year before the new CBA is my point.

I understood but what im saying is memphis wouldn't do the trade if it just involved having the option to swap picks, but it would have a better chance if they can keep both that's why I let NO have conley so they would be willing to give up their pick without a swap so they can get a backup for collison when Paul leaves.

[Rapsobsessed7]

what about this.

To TOR: Posey + Flynn + Foster
To IND: Calderon + MIA 1st
To NOH: Rush + Evans
To MIN: Thorton + 2 million TE

Thorton as a rookie put up better numbers than Flynn, they solve the PG glut and hand the keys to Rubio in 2011.

NOH gets Rush to replace Thorton while dumping Poseys contract

TOR gets a PG who can run and gun with Derozan and be a part of our core

IND gets a PG and a pick for taking on his contract.

[ash_k]

To New Orleans:
Jose Calderon
Reggie Evans
Marcus Banks
Ed Davis
Joel Przybilla
Greg Oden
Jarryd Bayless

To Portland:
Chris Paul
Dwayne Jones

To Toronto:
Emeka Okafor
Rudy Fernandez
James Posey

Raps Roster:

C- Okafor/A.Johnson/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/Kleiza/Dorsey
SF- Derozan/Weems/Posey
SG- Barbosa/Fernandez/Belinelli
PG- Jack/B.Brown/Barbosa/Fernandez/Belinelli

what is wrong with you?

I agree, what is wrong with you?

[TDotRep]

what about this.

To TOR: Posey + Flynn + Foster
To IND: Calderon + MIA 1st
To NOH: Rush + Evans
To MIN: Thorton + 2 million TE

Thorton as a rookie put up better numbers than Flynn, they solve the PG glut and hand the keys to Rubio in 2011.

NOH gets Rush to replace Thorton while dumping Poseys contract

TOR gets a PG who can run and gun with Derozan and be a part of our core

IND gets a PG and a pick for taking on his contract.

I like it for us and Minni does it, but their could be hesitation on Indy and NOH

[Rapsobsessed7]

yeah i can see IND maybe not taking it because of Joses contract but it still allows them to offer a max contract + 7 million ontop of the max contract next summer. So they can fill out the roster with cheap depth and really push for it next year.

NOH while Thorton was good to dump the Poseys 6.9 and get back Rush is a pretty good deal for them IMO. Posey is owed $6,925,400 (next year) + the trade kicker so i think for them its a pretty good deal too. Rush fits alongside Collison or Paul whichever they choose to build around.

[killerbs]

From the ballboy:
New Orleans Trade: Chris Paul, D.West, Emeka Okafor
New Orleans Receives: Reggie Evans, Eddy Curry, W. Chandler, J.Calderon, M.Pietrus,M.Gortat, draft picks(from Toronto)

New York Trades: Eddy Curry, W. Chandler
New York Receives: Chris Paul

Orlando Trades: M.Gorat, M.Pietrus, Brandon Brass
Orlando recives: M.Banks, M. Belinillie, D.West

Toronto Trades: Reggie Evan, J.Calderon, M.Banks, M.Benlillie
Toronto Receives: Emeka Okafor, Brandon Brass

New Orleans Trades
Hornets get couple of expiring contracts and draft picks. They can then get good players in 2011 free agents. Jose Calderon can be a good back up for Collins as he becoming a good player. With this trade it will sure be a sign for the hornets are in a rebuilding mode.
New York:
They get a very good point guard and who can play very well with gallo, amare and Carmelo( if he signs with Knicks) .Knicks will have enough cap to sign good players who are willing to play for less money.

Orlando:
Gorat , Pietrus and Brandon brass get there wish of getting more playing time with other teams and it is a big dump of bad contracts. By doing this they get a good Power forward who can play alongside Dwight and move R.Lewis to SF which he is comfortable playing from the perimeter. They also get 2 expiring contract that will help them in the 3rd pg and sg. They can compete with heat and Boston now.

Toronto:
Toronto trade away 1 bad contract who is a good offence player and 3 expiring contract for a good rebounding center and avg PF .Okafor will be naturally starting at center that Raptors can use and move Barg to PF which he is comfortable with. Brandon brass can come off the bench and give solid minutes and rebounds while giving ED Davis time to develop into a good player.
Any thoughts on this trade?

[plainballing]

From the ballboy:
New Orleans Trade: Chris Paul, D.West, Emeka Okafor
New Orleans Receives: Reggie Evans, Eddy Curry, W. Chandler, J.Calderon, M.Pietrus,M.Gortat, draft picks(from Toronto)

New York Trades: Eddy Curry, W. Chandler
New York Receives: Chris Paul

Orlando Trades: M.Gorat, M.Pietrus, Brandon Brass
Orlando recives: M.Banks, M. Belinillie, D.West

Toronto Trades: Reggie Evan, J.Calderon, M.Banks, M.Benlillie
Toronto Receives: Emeka Okafor, Brandon Brass

New Orleans Trades
Hornets get couple of expiring contracts and draft picks. They can then get good players in 2011 free agents. Jose Calderon can be a good back up for Collins as he becoming a good player. With this trade it will sure be a sign for the hornets are in a rebuilding mode.
New York:
They get a very good point guard and who can play very well with gallo, amare and Carmelo( if he signs with Knicks) .Knicks will have enough cap to sign good players who are willing to play for less money.

Orlando:
Gorat , Pietrus and Brandon brass get there wish of getting more playing time with other teams and it is a big dump of bad contracts. By doing this they get a good Power forward who can play alongside Dwight and move R.Lewis to SF which he is comfortable playing from the perimeter. They also get 2 expiring contract that will help them in the 3rd pg and sg. They can compete with heat and Boston now.

Toronto:
Toronto trade away 1 bad contract who is a good offence player and 3 expiring contract for a good rebounding center and avg PF .Okafor will be naturally starting at center that Raptors can use and move Barg to PF which he is comfortable with. Brandon brass can come off the bench and give solid minutes and rebounds while giving ED Davis time to develop into a good player.
Any thoughts on this trade?

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[henrydunn13]

With the news of CP3 wanting to go to Orlando:

Orlando

OUT: Jameer Nelson ($7.8M), Marcin Gortat ($6.3M), 2011 1st round pick

IN: Chris Paul ($14.9M)
Orlando loses seldom used Gortat and Nelson, who would be redundant with CP3. Toss in a pick, because it's CP3!


New Orleans:

OUT: Chris Paul ($14.9M) and James Posey ($6.4M)

IN: Mike Conley ($4.9M), Marco Belinelli ($2.3M), Hamed Haddadi ($1.6M), DeMarre Carrol ($1.0M), 2011 ORL 1st round pick, 2011 MIA 1st round pick, $11.3M TPE (Toronto)
New Orleans gets 4 young prospects on expiring deals, as well as a huge TPE and two 1st round draft picks, while dumping James Posey's contract. Decent value after your star demands a trade.

Memphis:

OUT: Mike Conley ($4.9M), Hamed Haddadi ($1.6M), and DeMarre Carrol ($1.0M)

IN: Jose Calderon ($9.0M)
Conley is on the block and Calderon just might convince Marc "The Franchise" Gasol to resign in Memphis next year.

Toronto:

OUT: Jose Calderon ($9.0M), Marco Belinelli ($2.3M), $11.3M TPE, 2011 MIA 1st round pick

IN: Jameer Nelson ($7.8M), Marcin Gortat ($6.3M), and James Posey ($6.4M)
Toronto uses all of the TPE they are comfortable using, keeping us under the tax, and give up Miami's pick. They deal young Marco Belinelli's expiring and shed Calderon in the process to a team that could use him. Raptors could still move Banks and Evans expiring contracts for something.

2011/2012 Toronto Raptors:

Nelson/Jack/Banks
DeRozan/Weems/Barbosa
Kleiza/Posey
Bargnani/Johnson/Davis/Evans
Gortat/Dorsey/Alabi

Can someone please comment on this!! This took me awhile! haha

[Rapsobsessed7]

henrydun, i like the idea however i want to go young and Nelson doesnt really fit that. I want guys like Flynn, Conley, Lawson, Rubio, Collison for example. Or even play Barbosa at PG and draft one next year. I dont really like having Nelson on the team Gortat and Posey i think are great to have, Posey because he expires the same time as Barbosa and Gortat because hes a legit C, something weve been missing.

[dohboy_24]

With New Orleans saying they want suitors to take Okafor with Paul, it limits the number of teams who could get him.

I know we aren't on his short list of teams, but we could give the TPE for Paul and our expirings for Okafor to make it work. Maybe a future first too?

Calderon would have to be traded, but we'd have the perfect guy to run an offense and take advantage of the speed and athleticism Colangelo has been raving about.

pg - Paul - Jack
sg - DeRozan - Barbosa
sf - Weems - Kleiza
pf - Bargs - Amir
ce - Okafor - Davis

With this lineup, I still think Bargs and DeMar can grow into their new roles as option A and C on offense while Paul can orchestrate everything and provide offense as a secondary option.

[cdel00]

With the news of CP3 wanting to go to Orlando:

Orlando

OUT: Jameer Nelson ($7.8M), Marcin Gortat ($6.3M), 2011 1st round pick

IN: Chris Paul ($14.9M)
Orlando loses seldom used Gortat and Nelson, who would be redundant with CP3. Toss in a pick, because it's CP3!


New Orleans:

OUT: Chris Paul ($14.9M) and James Posey ($6.4M)

IN: Mike Conley ($4.9M), Marco Belinelli ($2.3M), Hamed Haddadi ($1.6M), DeMarre Carrol ($1.0M), 2011 ORL 1st round pick, 2011 MIA 1st round pick, $11.3M TPE (Toronto)
New Orleans gets 4 young prospects on expiring deals, as well as a huge TPE and two 1st round draft picks, while dumping James Posey's contract. Decent value after your star demands a trade.

Memphis:

OUT: Mike Conley ($4.9M), Hamed Haddadi ($1.6M), and DeMarre Carrol ($1.0M)

IN: Jose Calderon ($9.0M)
Conley is on the block and Calderon just might convince Marc "The Franchise" Gasol to resign in Memphis next year.

Toronto:

OUT: Jose Calderon ($9.0M), Marco Belinelli ($2.3M), $11.3M TPE, 2011 MIA 1st round pick

IN: Jameer Nelson ($7.8M), Marcin Gortat ($6.3M), and James Posey ($6.4M)
Toronto uses all of the TPE they are comfortable using, keeping us under the tax, and give up Miami's pick. They deal young Marco Belinelli's expiring and shed Calderon in the process to a team that could use him. Raptors could still move Banks and Evans expiring contracts for something.

2011/2012 Toronto Raptors:

Nelson/Jack/Banks
DeRozan/Weems/Barbosa
Kleiza/Posey
Bargnani/Johnson/Davis/Evans
Gortat/Dorsey/Alabi

Can someone please comment on this!! This took me awhile! haha

Poor Mem takes it in the BC hard

[7drizzy7drake7]

So, I know Paul won't come here...so, lets help someone get him =D

New York
In
Chris Paul
Reggie Evans

Out
Ronny Turiaf
Eddy Curry
Anthony Randolph


New Orleans
In
Andrea Bargnani
Marcus Banks
Marco Belinelli
Ronny Turiaf
Miami 2011 First Round Pick


Out
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
James Posey

Toronto
In
Eddy Curry
Anthony Randolph
Emeka Okafor -Absorbed with Bosh TPE
James Posey

Out
Andrea Bargnani
Marcus Banks
Marco Belinelli
Reggie Evans
2011 Miami First Round Pick

Why?
New York- Get Paul and Amare Together....its that simple xD
New Orleans- Get rid of Okafor and Posey's Contracts, and trade an unhappy Chris Paul, who would have likely not performed well. Get a younger Bargnani, who can take on the franchise with Collison. Essentially get expirings for Okafor. And! get a pick
Toronto- Absorbs Okafor's contract with TPE, get a young prospect in Anthony Randolph, Exchange most of our expirings with Curry's contract, which isnt good... and take on Posey who will give us another expiring with Barbosa in 2012.

Ny
/Mozgov
Amare/Gallinari
Azubuike/Chandler
Douglas/Walker
Chris Paul/Felton

-Get a C
-Improve the SG position

NO
Bargnani/Turiaf
West//Songaila
Stojakovic/J. Wright
Thornton/Luther Head/Belinelli
Collison/Banks

-Wait... the only players that have to be on contract after this season are West/Bargnani/Head

TOR
Okafor/Amir/Curry
Randolph/Davis
Kleiza/Weems
Derozan/Barbosa
Jack/Calderon

-Sign a SF next season
-Trade Calderon
-Draft PG with pick

[Rapsobsessed7]

i make some big trades but i think this is the simplest, easiest trade to do.

To Toronto:
Mike Dunleavy $10,561,984
Jeff Foster $6,655,000
= 17,306,984

To Indiana:
Jose Calderon $9,000,000
Reggie Evans $5,080,000
* Trade Exception (3,226,984)
= 14,080,000

Toronto dumps Calderons contract but i think Dunleavy is a BC type player that he will covet along with Foster. Foster is a rebounding C that can start (he did in Indiana). This puts us at 24 million next year to offer almost 2 max contracts + have our lottery pick next year + miamis pick.

Indiana gets further away from the tax (currently at 67 million) so they drop down to 64 million. Fill a need, dont give up youth.

Jarret Jack / Leandro Barbosa / Marcus Banks
Demar Derozan / Sonny Weems / Marco Belinelli
Linas Klezia / Mike Dunleavy
Andrea Bargnani / Ed Davis / Joey Dorsey
Jeff Foster / Amir Johnson / Solomon Alabi

Jose Calderon / Tj Ford / Aj Price
Brandon Rush / Dahntay Jones / Lance Stephanson
Danny Granger / Paul George
Tyler Hansbrough / Reggie Evans / Josh Mcroberts
Troy Murphy / Roy Hibbert / Solomon Jones

i really think this deal makes sense for both. IND still has room for a max contract next summer and have all their youth guys still.

[Ducksplatt]

Here is one for all you Okafor fans:

Toronto trades: Jose, Evans
NOH trades: Okafor, J Wright

TO gets a C for Bargs who can concentrate on rebounding. Would be good to have a veteran C that can mentor Amir and Alabi. His contract is steep...but C's are always overpaid.
Also a young SF who has "potential". If it does not pan out, his qualifying does not need to be picked up. I know many folks on this board want Collison but it looks like he is there to stay. Wright is at least a prospect (maybe).

NOH gets a pg (if Paul leaves) that can back up Collison or start if Collison is shaky. Also a year shorter and 2.5 million less a year against the cap.
Evans is pure expiring and to match salaries.

[damadmonk]

i make some big trades but i think this is the simplest, easiest trade to do.

To Toronto:
Mike Dunleavy $10,561,984
Jeff Foster $6,655,000
= 17,306,984

To Indiana:
Jose Calderon $9,000,000
Reggie Evans $5,080,000
* Trade Exception (3,226,984)
= 14,080,000

I like it... that would create $12 million more in expiring contracts for next year while giving us some experience players while the younger guys develop.

[pspot]

Here is one for all you Okafor fans:

Toronto trades: Jose, Evans
NOH trades: Okafor, J Wright

TO gets a C for Bargs who can concentrate on rebounding. Would be good to have a veteran C that can mentor Amir and Alabi. His contract is steep...but C's are always overpaid.
Also a young SF who has "potential". If it does not pan out, his qualifying does not need to be picked up. I know many folks on this board want Collison but it looks like he is there to stay. Wright is at least a prospect (maybe).

NOH gets a pg (if Paul leaves) that can back up Collison or start if Collison is shaky. Also a year shorter and 2.5 million less a year against the cap.
Evans is pure expiring and to match salaries.

I always wanted a Jose for Ok flip but with Paul/Collison it didn't work but with the recent events I hope its something looked at.

I was thinking a deal could be there as NY would need some help to get Paul and TO has the pieces to do that. Only issue is that you are helping a divisional rival get Chris Paul but whatever Raps aren't winning anything soon and it would be great to have NY competitive again.

Thought of a 3 way

NY gets: Paul, Okafor, Dorsey, TPE from Turk
NO gets: Jose, Beli, Azbuike or Chandler, Randolph, TPE from Bosh
Raps get: Turiaf, Douglas, Peja and Curry (can waive Curry)

I'd love to get OK but Turiaf provides the same stuff on a smaller contract and think would fit in just as well. Everyone Raps get is expiring but Turiaf and Douglas are two pieces for the future.

Deal can work with OK going to TO but its a bit more messy

NY gets: Paul, Dorsey, Evans, TPE Turk
NO gets: Jose, Beli, Randolph, Az or Chandler, Banks and TPE
Raps get: Okafor, Douglas, Peja, and Curry

obviously these are huge deals and probably would never happen but IMO the pieces are there
I like Turiaf for Okafor for the new big
I like Peja as the 1 year SF who would add needed 3 pt range
Chandler, Az, or Wright would be a nice young SF to add
i like Douglas as the young PG behind Jack

[Rapsobsessed7]

anyone think NOH does this if their keeping Paul? I mean they could try and give it one last shot next summer and offer max contracts.

To Toronto: Collison + Okafor + Posey
To Indiana: Calderon + MIA 1st
To New Orleans: Rush + Foster + Evans + Belinelli + 3 million TE created

Collison / Jack / Banks
Derozan / Barbosa
Klezia / Weems / Posey
Bargnani / Davis / Dorsey
Okafor / Johnson / Alabi

i think that lineup is young enough and we get some good young prospects but i also think we would have a solid chance at making the playoffs. We also have like 14 million in cap space next summer, have 14 million in expiring contracts, have our 1st round pick

Paul / Farmar (signed, 1.5 million)
Rush / Thorton / Belinelli
Peja / Pondexter / Wright
West / Evans / Brackins
Shaq (3 million) / Foster / Songila

[bboyskinnylegs]

^^ I wouldn't do that. Taking on both Okafor+Posey is brutal, even for Collison. I wouldn't give up our Miami pick to dump Jose either. I'd much rather stand pat and either try to work a trade for Rubio or Collison, or aim for Knight/Irving in the draft.

[Blade_Runner]

My 2 cents - What about CP3 interested in Portland - Miller, Oden and Rudy coming back - works - ...then Raps send Jose, TPE, Reggie, etc. to NO for Okafor and Collision. Other spare parts even things out.

[Qdogg17]

This trade makes sense for both teams and should happen.
< although it can't take place until September 15th.

To Sacramento:
Jose Calderon
Reggie Evans
Dwayne Jones
1st round pick(Mia)

To Toronto:
Samuel Dalembert
Fransisco Garcia

Sacramento gets Jose who is a true point guard to help Evans fascilitate the offense. Although, Evans needs the ball in his hands to be more effective, Jose, a good shooter can also play off the ball and can shoot at a high percentage.

Toronto gets a banger down low to do the dirty work for Bargnani.

Tor:
C- Dalembert/A.Johnson/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/E.Davis/Dorsey
SF- Weems/Kleiza/Garcia
SG- Derozan/Barbosa/Belinelli
PG- Jack/B.Brown/Banks

Sac:
C- Cousins/Whiteside/D.Jones
PF- Landry/J.Thompson/R.Evans
SF- Casspi/D.Greene
SG- T.Evans/A.Wright
PG- Calderon/Udrih/Jeeter