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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Pre-season Oct 5th 

Post#221 » by pineappleheadindc » Sat Oct 2, 2010 2:59 am

Dang, I thought the crack medical staff had controlled Javale's asthma with medication. :nonono:

Housekeeping: I'm so jazzed for the season to start. Sometime over the weeked, somebody want to begin a game thread for Tuesday's preseason game vs Dallas? (Any game-time hating of Caron and Haywood happening from you'all? I'm not...am a live and let live sorta guy. But was just curious.)
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Pre-season Oct 5th 

Post#222 » by montestewart » Sat Oct 2, 2010 3:22 am

Al Thornton was hit by a car? Apparently OK.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1056152

This is my only source on this. Is it in another thread?

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Post#223 » by dangermouse » Sat Oct 2, 2010 4:19 am

damn, is the car alright?

as for Javale, maybe he should spend less time hanging around with Josh Howard. when im around a smoker my asthma tends to flare up.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Pre-season Oct 5th 

Post#224 » by dobrojim » Sat Oct 2, 2010 3:30 pm

anybody going to the open practice on Sunday?
I was going to skip it. There's an open jam that's
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Post#225 » by hands11 » Sun Oct 3, 2010 2:25 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 06080.html

"We're going to play a lot of different people and a lot of different combinations."

As I had hoped for and expected.


Thornton will be given the first shot to lose the job, having stepped in for Howard last season until he was later slowed by a groin injury. During his exit interview with Saunders last season, Thornton was told that he needed to get in better shape and play with more consistency and defensive intensity in the upcoming season.

I think most of us thought this would be the case.

And Nick is on his heels.

Young realizes that Wall, Arenas and Hinrich will inhale most of the minutes in the back court, so he hit the gym and added 10 pounds of muscle, mostly to his upper body, in anticipation of playing small forward. Although he feels more comfortable at shooting guard, the 6-7 Young said, "I just want to be out there on the court, any way I can and produce for the team. If he wants me to play small forward, I'll play it. . . . I'm always going to find a role. I always find a way to break through.

"This is my fourth year. I got to step up to the plate, being somewhat of a leader, ready to take off this year. This should be my best ever."

Nothing has been settled through the first few days of training camp, but Howard offered a message to the contestants. "Good luck," Howard said with a chuckle. "That's just a friendly competition, of course. No hard feelings. Of course, I know I'm going to be behind the eight ball, but it's never stopped me from coming out and playing. I've been in this situation before, and I'm going to go out there and play."
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Pre-season Oct 5th 

Post#226 » by Wizardspride » Sun Oct 3, 2010 2:48 am

Click on the link to read the rest.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04018.html
Adam Morrison remembers being matched up against Kobe Bryant in one of his first practices with the Los Angeles Lakers. Coach Phil Jackson was trying to get a sense of what the new arrival was made of, less than three years after Michael Jordan had made him the third overall pick of the 2006 NBA draft for the Charlotte Bobcats.

The results were as lopsided as one would expect. "He was killing me," Morrison said.

But Bryant didn't just welcome Morrison to the Lakers with a barrage of post-up moves, pull-up jumpers and fadeaways. Bryant saved his best work for the locker room after practice, when he posed a question to Morrison.

"He said, 'Can you guard me without S.O.S. on the back of your jersey?' " Morrison said, adding that Bryant never let up with the trash talk during his time in Los Angeles. "Some of the stuff I can't repeat."

Morrison said being around the Lakers, and Bryant specifically, the past few seasons helped him become a better player and gain an understanding of what it takes to improve individually and accomplish the ultimate team goal. Morrison left Los Angeles with two championships, but the 26-year-old also acknowledges that most of his time in Los Angeles was spent as a spectator in a sport coat.

"I didn't get on the court - at all," said Morrison, who appeared in just 83 games the past two seasons in Charlotte and Los Angeles. "I always tell people I was a fan with an all-access pass, pretty much, and I got a check every week. I felt part of the team but, being the draft pick that I was, I got a lot of flak for not playing. People don't understand; it was a very good team. Wasn't like I was playing somewhere that wasn't good."

Morrison found himself buried, lost, and forgotten. But now he has an opportunity to resurrect his career - or get it started, depending on your perspective - with the Washington Wizards. "I really like the situation here," Morrison said after a recent practice at George Mason's Patriot Center.

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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Pre-season Oct 5th 

Post#227 » by hands11 » Sun Oct 3, 2010 3:41 am

Wizardspride wrote:Click on the link to read the rest.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04018.html
Adam Morrison remembers being matched up against Kobe Bryant in one of his first practices with the Los Angeles Lakers. Coach Phil Jackson was trying to get a sense of what the new arrival was made of, less than three years after Michael Jordan had made him the third overall pick of the 2006 NBA draft for the Charlotte Bobcats.

The results were as lopsided as one would expect. "He was killing me," Morrison said.

But Bryant didn't just welcome Morrison to the Lakers with a barrage of post-up moves, pull-up jumpers and fadeaways. Bryant saved his best work for the locker room after practice, when he posed a question to Morrison.

"He said, 'Can you guard me without S.O.S. on the back of your jersey?' " Morrison said, adding that Bryant never let up with the trash talk during his time in Los Angeles. "Some of the stuff I can't repeat."

Morrison said being around the Lakers, and Bryant specifically, the past few seasons helped him become a better player and gain an understanding of what it takes to improve individually and accomplish the ultimate team goal. Morrison left Los Angeles with two championships, but the 26-year-old also acknowledges that most of his time in Los Angeles was spent as a spectator in a sport coat.

"I didn't get on the court - at all," said Morrison, who appeared in just 83 games the past two seasons in Charlotte and Los Angeles. "I always tell people I was a fan with an all-access pass, pretty much, and I got a check every week. I felt part of the team but, being the draft pick that I was, I got a lot of flak for not playing. People don't understand; it was a very good team. Wasn't like I was playing somewhere that wasn't good."

Morrison found himself buried, lost, and forgotten. But now he has an opportunity to resurrect his career - or get it started, depending on your perspective - with the Washington Wizards. "I really like the situation here," Morrison said after a recent practice at George Mason's Patriot Center.


While anything can happen, I have yet to hear one good thing he can do. I don't even understand why he is in camp really. Im not there so who knows but I just dont see it happening.
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Post#228 » by dangermouse » Sun Oct 3, 2010 4:49 am

sign him to a min contract and stash him overseas please! my Aus NBL team could do with a scoring forward!
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Post#229 » by AceDegenerate » Sun Oct 3, 2010 2:25 pm

I haven't really seen anything from Adam Morrison, however I'm getting a strong sense from the local media and quotes from Flip/EG that this guy is going to make the team. I hope at a minimum he is going to knock down open shots, because if not somebody more deserving of that roster spot is going to miss out.
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Post#230 » by Rafael122 » Sun Oct 3, 2010 2:40 pm

The moment he signed I knew he was going to make the team, regardless of whether he does anything in preseason.

We need some perimeter shooting.
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Post#231 » by Ruzious » Sun Oct 3, 2010 2:48 pm

dangermouse wrote:sign him to a min contract and stash him overseas please! my Aus NBL team could do with a scoring forward!

Sorry, DM. Colonel K is going to have to find another way to save Australia. The Zards don't have a minor league affiliate there.
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Re: Wiz 2010 Training Camp Sept 28th - Pre-season Oct 5th 

Post#232 » by hands11 » Sun Oct 3, 2010 4:44 pm

Krizko Zero wrote:I haven't really seen anything from Adam Morrison, however I'm getting a strong sense from the local media and quotes from Flip/EG that this guy is going to make the team. I hope at a minimum he is going to knock down open shots, because if not somebody more deserving of that roster spot is going to miss out.


Wow. From what I know right now, I hope your wrong.

So anyone at todays Sunday practice to give us an update ?
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Post#233 » by Durant Durant » Sun Oct 3, 2010 5:34 pm

this is Ammo's last chance. hope he finally wakes up and finally lives up to his Top 3 pick status.
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Post#234 » by doclinkin » Sun Oct 3, 2010 7:00 pm

Been obsessively re-watching the 'real training camp' footage posted earlier and have come away actually more impressed with players I had question marks about.

Dial in on Trevor Booker and you see him doing all the little things on the periphery of the action. Fast on transition defense, makes the smart pass, refuses to allow bigs to back him into the post with the exception of Seraphin, who missed badly, well defended. Nobody scored on him inside because he wouldn't give position. Better yet he was re-directing his man with a subtle shove into the path of another attacking player, effectively defending two players at once.

On offense he doesn't yet have a comfort zone hitting the wide open shot he's gonna get every night out there, that should come with practice, but he knows the angles and has the ability to score off a one-two dribble move, even against larger players. And he's making the smart read on the pass almost every time. This is one of those hi-IQ players who will benefit the team in subtle ways whatever it looks like he is or isn't doing. He may not always get the board, but his man won't either.

Kevin Seraphin is another who caught hell on here for his missed jumpers, but again on careful re-consideration I'm still seeing what I thought I saw. Coming off the knee injury he's rusty, lacks timing will need to adjust to the NBA, but you can see where and how he will get his groove on once he gets a comfort level against NBA competition. Big, fast, nimble, long arms, good instincts especially on defense. Rookies need time to adjust, rookie bigs more so than most, but this kid is going to be a force once he feels like he knows what he's doing out there, and he doesn't look nervous about it.

Hamady N'Diaye may have only one NBA calibre quality, but he sure changed a ton of shots when he was on the floor. Runs fast to get in position. Then those long arms come up and he's a constant threat to knock your ball out the air.

I found myself really impressed with Kevin Palmer. Kid is subtly smooth, rangy, but seems under control, good defense against the drive, tenacious. He'll be a longshot to make the team but once he develops a reliable jumper in the D-League, he'd be a quality call-up. Kid has good body control and an oncourt timing/patience that reminds me a bit of Grant Hill or Penny Hardaway back in the day: doesn't seem hurried even when making a move. I won't be surprised when he's a roster player even starter in 3 years.

Still like Lester Hudson. Way he's playing, not only making threes but the correct pass I'd bet the team will keep him.

I'd love it if we could keep rosters deeper than 15and stow 'em on our minor league D-League squad. If the owners get good profit givebacks maybe they'll allow a 20 player roster. Of course then San Antonio would be truly dominant...

JaVale looks good. Nick. John Wall turned the ball over with a few lazy passes, he'll need to make it a focus once he learns his teammates. One way or the other this should be an interesting year.
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Post#235 » by doclinkin » Sun Oct 3, 2010 7:43 pm

Nice footage here of the most recent open scrimmage:

http://www.nba.com/wizards/video/2010/1 ... ndex.html#

John Wall splits two defenders with a spinning 360 lay-up. Kid is sick. Again I like watching the periphery of the action. At 2:43 or so nice ball movement springs Al Thornton for two hand executioner's dunk. But why was the paint so wide open? Seraphin got a little distracted guarding his man, true, but watch Trevor Booker screening out both KSera and CMartin on the play. It's the little things that matter...
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Post#237 » by AceDegenerate » Sun Oct 3, 2010 9:28 pm

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Post#238 » by hands11 » Sun Oct 3, 2010 10:36 pm

Yeah, that is one of the things I would like to see changed in the new CBA. They should let you keep more players.

As for Seraphin. Yeah, I think the kid is going to surprise with how quickly he contributes.

I like the club. I think there is a lot here. Even Armstrong is someone I expect to see good things from.

Lots of upside with this group. Even AT has a new diet of only fish and no read meat.

Think of all the players we have who have a good chance to show improvement.

Wall, Gil, Nick, AT, Dray, McGee. Hell, I may as well name the whole team except I think we know what we have in Kirk.
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Post#239 » by hands11 » Sun Oct 3, 2010 11:41 pm

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Post#240 » by AceDegenerate » Sun Oct 3, 2010 11:48 pm

Err.. wrong thread?

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