Can we shut the book on the Williams/Paul debate?

BarneyGumble · Post #1 » by **BarneyGumble** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:26 am

Not a flame war thread. Legitimate question. Deron Williams ran circles around CP3 tonight, pretty much having his way with him for 26 points, 11 assists, 5 steals, and another blowout victory.

So who is better? Do I just wear thick homer goggles?

Thanks.

dogrufus · Post #2 » by **dogrufus** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:38 am

26/11 and 5 turnovers isn't really running circles around 17/9 and 1 turnover

Yes you do wear thick homer goggles.

It was 1 game and the home team usually wins.

Also lets not forget both Jefferson and Millsap being better than any Hornet other than Paul.

JordansBulls · Post #3 » by **JordansBulls** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:40 am

DWill_daShizzle wrote:Not a flame war thread. Legitimate question. Deron Williams ran circles around CP3 tonight, pretty much having his way with him for 26 points, 11 assists, 5 steals, and another blowout victory.

So who is better? Do I just wear thick homer goggles?

Thanks.

Deron always outplays him head to head just like Yao does Dwight.

J~Rush · Post #4 » by **J~Rush** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:52 am

Finally. We can all agree that CP3 is the best PG in the NBA considerably. I'm glad a Utah Jazz fan started this thread so the OP won't be called a homer.

Sinant · Post #5 » by **Sinant** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:07 am

I'd take CP3 fairly comfortably.

Btw: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1069832

Literally within the same page.

NYK 455 · Post #6 » by **NYK 455** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:11 am

Yes, CP3 is better. Shut the book already.

Blame Rasho · Post #7 » by **Blame Rasho** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:12 am

Oh really wrote:Not a flame war reply. Legitimate response. Tony Parker ran circles around Willams several nights ago on the road, pretty much having his way with him for 24 points, 7assists, 4 steals thus leading the Spurs to the best record in the NBA while being undefeated on the road.

So who is better? Do I just wear thick homer goggles?

Thanks.

One game samples are awesome... if you have a logic of a homer.

Wavy Q · Post #8 » by **Wavy Q** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:14 am

NYK 455 wrote:Yes, CP3 is better. Shut the book already.

menofvalor · Post #9 » by **menofvalor** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:47 am

Cp3 is better at just about everything than Deron. And I love Deron.

Ming Kong! · Post #10 » by **Ming Kong!** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:52 am

OP... what were you thinking?

I can't understand why everybody has suddenly turned on their opinion of Williams, but I personally don't give a crap, just want the Jazz to win.

JoyDivision · Post #11 » by **JoyDivision** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:00 am

Deron Williams is a much better player in my opinion. I think some people just automatically assume Paul is better because his name is thrown around more frequently. If they had watched tonights game, or any of the head to head matchups in the past, they would agree. I'm not saying Paul isn't a phenomenal point guard, he's seated directly behind Williams at second easily, but Deron is just simply a better player who makes his teammates better. Granted if Williams could limit his turnovers he would undeniably be better than Paul IMO, that's something Deron really needs to improve on.

jdub114 · Post #12 » by **jdub114** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:03 am

JordansBulls wrote:
DWill_daShizzle wrote:Not a flame war thread. Legitimate question. Deron Williams ran circles around CP3 tonight, pretty much having his way with him for 26 points, 11 assists, 5 steals, and another blowout victory.

So who is better? Do I just wear thick homer goggles?

Thanks.

Deron always outplays him head to head just like Yao does Dwight.

Are you saying Deron's better?

For me, a healthy Yao is better than Dwight, and not just head to head.

RunMCR · Post #13 » by **RunMCR** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:06 am

Jay From LA wrote:
NYK 455 wrote:Yes, CP3 is better. Shut the book already.

Quincy · Post #14 » by **Quincy** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:15 am

But Deron always outplays him in H2H's. What's new?

Andrewchos · Post #15 » by **Andrewchos** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:16 am

NYK 455 wrote:Yes, CP3 is better. Shut the book already.

Legendary 33 · Post #16 » by **Legendary 33** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:22 am

NYK 455 wrote:Yes, CP3 is better. Shut the book already.

Post #17 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:43 am

There was never an argument. Deron was only comparable when Paul gets hurt :dontknow:

Ming Kong! · Post #18 » by **Ming Kong!** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:06 am

jdub114 wrote:
JordansBulls wrote:
DWill_daShizzle wrote:Not a flame war thread. Legitimate question. Deron Williams ran circles around CP3 tonight, pretty much having his way with him for 26 points, 11 assists, 5 steals, and another blowout victory.

So who is better? Do I just wear thick homer goggles?

Thanks.

Deron always outplays him head to head just like Yao does Dwight.

Are you saying Deron's better?

For me, a healthy Yao is better than Dwight, and not just head to head.

He clearly was taking a jab at the head to head not holding weight in who's really better. How can you even make an argument for Yao being a better player? Howard has already played more games despite starting later, his averages are better, and in his last few years he's been indisputably better than Yao ever was, except maybe Yao's 06-07 season, but he missed 36 games.

Hobo4President · Post #19 » by **Hobo4President** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:53 am

CP3 is the better player. The only thing Deron has on him is his crossover and his size advantage.

higuys · Post #20 » by **higuys** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:15 am

d will i think paul is overrated

Who is better?