2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[ballislife]

Instead of going after Iguodala, why not go after a cheaper, younger, and lite version of him in Terrence Williams?

Terrence Williams
Quinton Ross
for
Kleiza

This would only be able to happen after Dec 15.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Instead of going after Iguodala, why not go after a cheaper, younger, and lite version of him in Terrence Williams?

Terrence Williams
Quinton Ross
for
Kleiza

This would only be able to happen after Dec 15.

I like TWill, but I don't see the Nets doing that trade.

[ballislife]

What if we threw in Miami's pick... I would still do that, I don't know about anyone else though.

[A roc 23]

No thanks to T-Will.

A headcase who is in the dog house for being crazy. He is currently benched by the Nets, who are actually worse then the Raptors.

Imagine how much trouble DeMar would have to be causing before the Raptors benched him. Then think to yourself that T-Will did whatever you are thinking of to get benched by an even worse team.

[ballislife]

Avery Johnson is a no nonsense coach. There's no slack on anyone no matter what. I'm sure the situation isn't all that bad in terms of his character... he's still young and coming to a young a determined team would help him realize what he needs to do. He was working with Gary Payton in the off season to improve his decision-making to become a better point-forward player... he's putting in work. This guy is an athletic freak with a lot of talent... I say he's more athletic than DeMar.

[EventHorizon]

Orlando is looking to trade for Anthony or Paul. The Raps should be the third team and offer their TPE in return for picks and Daniel Orton.

[Rapsfan07]

Raps out:
Jose Calderon, Reggie Evans, Miami pick

In: JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

Wizards out:
JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

In: Beno Udrih, Reggie Evans, Jason Thompson

Kings out:
Beno Udrih, Jason Thompson

Kings in:
Jose Calderon, Miami pick

Raptors get a pretty good, solid point guard in Hinrich and the young center we've been looking for in McGee and at the same time we dump a pass first, mistake free and EXPENSIVE point guard in Calderon on a team who needs him at the cost of Reggie Evans and our Miami pick. Wizards get back point in Udrih, rebounder in Reggie Evans and a PF/C prospect in Thompson who will get the PT he needs in Washington. Kings get Calderon, who will excel in the half court set and doesn't the ball over much and lose Thompson who wasn't really getting much PT anyways and a pick.

Thoughts?

[Zurbert]

Peja for Yao. Straight up.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Raps out:
Jose Calderon, Reggie Evans, Miami pick

In: JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

Wizards out:
JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

In: Beno Udrih, Reggie Evans, Jason Thompson

Kings out:
Beno Udrih, Jason Thompson

Kings in:
Jose Calderon, Miami pick

Raptors get a pretty good, solid point guard in Hinrich and the young center we've been looking for in McGee and at the same time we dump a pass first, mistake free and EXPENSIVE point guard in Calderon on a team who needs him at the cost of Reggie Evans and our Miami pick. Wizards get back point in Udrih, rebounder in Reggie Evans and a PF/C prospect in Thompson who will get the PT he needs in Washington. Kings get Calderon, who will excel in the half court set and doesn't the ball over much and lose Thompson who wasn't really getting much PT anyways and a pick.

Thoughts?

The Wizards definitely won't give up Javale for that package.

[Balki-B]

Raps out:
Jose Calderon, Reggie Evans, Miami pick

In: JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

Wizards out:
JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

In: Beno Udrih, Reggie Evans, Jason Thompson

Kings out:
Beno Udrih, Jason Thompson

Kings in:
Jose Calderon, Miami pick

Raptors get a pretty good, solid point guard in Hinrich and the young center we've been looking for in McGee and at the same time we dump a pass first, mistake free and EXPENSIVE point guard in Calderon on a team who needs him at the cost of Reggie Evans and our Miami pick. Wizards get back point in Udrih, rebounder in Reggie Evans and a PF/C prospect in Thompson who will get the PT he needs in Washington. Kings get Calderon, who will excel in the half court set and doesn't the ball over much and lose Thompson who wasn't really getting much PT anyways and a pick.

Thoughts?

Its easy to envision McGee finishing easy lobs from Wall for the next 5 years and I'm not sure what's the enticing player going their way to make this deal work.

Raps are on pace for the mid lottery. How about a two year plan for development centred around the growth from the core of Andrea, Bayless, Davis, Derozen.

How about:

Toronto Out -
TPE
In - Kaman

L.A. Clippers Out -
Kaman
In - TPE

I hated the deal at first, but it might have some merit.

For the Raps:
-Raps place Davis on a two year phase-in plan that coincides with Kaman's expiring.
-Resign Kaman at discount if Davis doesn't pan out. Sign Davis if double-double threat emerges.
-Immediate post presence with Kaman
-Front court rotation of Kaman, Bargs, Amir, Davis

For the Clippers:
-Salary relief for penny pinching Sterling.
-Opens up lane even more for explosive Griffin

[Rapsfan07]

Raps out:
Jose Calderon, Reggie Evans, Miami pick

In: JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

Wizards out:
JaVale McGee, Kirk Hinrich

In: Beno Udrih, Reggie Evans, Jason Thompson

Kings out:
Beno Udrih, Jason Thompson

Kings in:
Jose Calderon, Miami pick

Raptors get a pretty good, solid point guard in Hinrich and the young center we've been looking for in McGee and at the same time we dump a pass first, mistake free and EXPENSIVE point guard in Calderon on a team who needs him at the cost of Reggie Evans and our Miami pick. Wizards get back point in Udrih, rebounder in Reggie Evans and a PF/C prospect in Thompson who will get the PT he needs in Washington. Kings get Calderon, who will excel in the half court set and doesn't the ball over much and lose Thompson who wasn't really getting much PT anyways and a pick.

Thoughts?

Its easy to envision McGee finishing easy lobs from Wall for the next 5 years and I'm not sure what's the enticing player going their way to make this deal work.

Raps are on pace for the mid lottery. How about a two year plan for development centred around the growth from the core of Andrea, Bayless, Davis, Derozen.

How about:

Toronto Out -
TPE
In - Kaman

L.A. Clippers Out -
Kaman
In - TPE

I hated the deal at first, but it might have some merit.

For the Raps:
-Raps place Davis on a two year phase-in plan that coincides with Kaman's expiring.
-Resign Kaman at discount if Davis doesn't pan out. Sign Davis if double-double threat emerges.
-Immediate post presence with Kaman
-Front court rotation of Kaman, Bargs, Amir, Davis

For the Clippers:
-Salary relief for penny pinching Sterling.
-Opens up lane even more for explosive Griffin

I do like Kaman too. A big defensive big who gets the job done. Its funny because both him and Bayless were on my Raps 2K team before the deal went down. lol. I would be okay with Kaman if we had him. I'd be VERY happy actually. Only problem is he is VERY expensive and wouldn't taking on Kaman mean that we can't make any moves in the offseason? If we miraculously moved Calderon, I think this trade would be amazing though.

[Gold Dragon]

My new dream scenario that could happen


Raptors get Chris Kaman 11.8 + Baron Davis 13.0 + LAC 1st

Clippers get 11.8 TPE + Jose Calderon 9 + Reggie Evans 5.0 + Joey Dorsey 0.8 + TOR 1st + Miami 1st

If the Clips want Kleiza instead of Evans, that would work too. They would probably ask for one of the Young Onez and I would have to strongly consider it but try hard not to cave.


then:


Raptors get Andrew Bynum 13.7 + Luke Walton 5.2 + Sasha Vujacic 5.4

Lakers get Peja 14.2 + Chris Kaman 11.8

I see this as very doable with the Lakers.


then


Draft Irving or Kemba Walker with clippers pick

Bargs/Amir/Alabi
Bynum/Davis
Weems/Kleiza/Wright/Walton
DeRozan/Barbosa/Vujacic
Irving or Walker/Bayless/Baron

[Balki-B]

My new dream scenario that could happen


Raptors get Chris Kaman 11.8 + Baron Davis 13.0 + LAC 1st

Clippers get 11.8 TPE + Jose Calderon 9 + Reggie Evans 5.0 + Joey Dorsey 0.8 + TOR 1st + Miami 1st

If the Clips want Kleiza instead of Evans, that would work too. They would probably ask for one of the Young Onez and I would have to strongly consider it but try hard not to cave.


then:


Raptors get Andrew Bynum 13.7 + Luke Walton 5.2 + Sasha Vujacic 5.4

Lakers get Peja 14.2 + Chris Kaman 11.8

I see this as very doable with the Lakers.


then


Draft Irving or Kemba Walker with clippers pick

Bargs/Amir/Alabi
Bynum/Davis
Weems/Kleiza/Wright/Walton
DeRozan/Barbosa/Vujacic
Irving or Walker/Bayless/Baron

Baron on the Raps would be an nightmare. Only way this works is for Baron to come off the bench which I don't see him agreeing to. How do you propose getting Irving? With the Clipper's draft pick?

I really like the second half of the trade. Flipping Punjabi and Kaman is very doable for the Lakers.

[Gold Dragon]

I hate having Baron on the Raptors but absorbing his contract is the only way I see the Clips giving us Kaman and the 1st. With Bledsoe's development and Baron's already bad relationship with the coaching staff, and his huge contract, they want to get rid of him in the worst possible way. Also with Bledsoe, they may not value as much what is looking like a PG heavy draft on the top where they will likely be drafting. Jose would be a great backup PG for Bledsoe even if he is a little expensive, but he is way cheaper than having Baron as a backup. Losing Kaman would leave a big hole in the Clips C position but one they should be able to fill easily with the cap space gained in the trade.

Then BC would have to work his magic to offload Baron's contract to someone who wants him and we might have to give up another 1st rounder to do that. Maybe David Kahn will be dumb enough to bite with his horrible guard rotation, big MLE and tons of cap space. I know it sucks to give another 1st, but to get Bynum and Irving/Walker on this team at this period of the team's development would be worth it.

The main downside of my scenario is that it puts the Raps seriously over the luxury cap for this year and the next two if we keep Baron. I don't expect ownership to actually allow that when we are struggling to sell tickets right now. It is the kind of move that having Ted Rogers/Mark Cuban like guy as the owner might be sold on, but definitely not MLSE.

[ballislife]

^^^ That would be a nice scenario...

Would you guys be willing to give up our first rounder next season for JaVale McGee... he would be perfect on this team beside Bargnani... I would def do that but I doubt most here would.

[ballislife]

Also, Chicago's looking for a SG... we could use an upgrade at SF... why not...

To Philly: Peja, James Johnson, Miami's 1st round pick, Omer Asik, Toronto's 2nd round pick

To Chicago: Iguodala

To Toronto: Deng, Kapono (buy out Kopono and stay under the luxury tax)


If we could do this and trade Barbosa for an expiring contract (Barbosa for Vujacic and the Lakers 1st rounder) we would still have the expiring contracts of Kapono and someone like Vujacic adding up to approximately 11 mill in expiring contracts... while retaining a late 1st round pick this season.

PG - Calderon/Bayless/Vujacic
SG - DeRozan/Weems
SF - Deng/Kleiza/Kapono/Wright
PF - Johnson/Davis/Evans
C - Bargnani/Johnson

We would still have 2 first round picks in next years draft, while still holding onto expiring contracts and the Bosh TPE... don't see what is really bad about this for Toronto. Thoughts? Or any variations?

[AMG]

Also, Chicago's looking for a SG... we could use an upgrade at SF... why not...

To Philly: Peja, James Johnson, Miami's 1st round pick, Omer Asik, Toronto's 2nd round pick

To Chicago: Iguodala

To Toronto: Deng, Kapono (buy out Kopono and stay under the luxury tax)


If we could do this and trade Barbosa for an expiring contract (Barbosa for Vujacic and the Lakers 1st rounder) we would still have the expiring contracts of Kapono and someone like Vujacic adding up to approximately 11 mill in expiring contracts... while retaining a late 1st round pick this season.

PG - Calderon/Bayless/Vujacic
SG - DeRozan/Weems
SF - Deng/Kleiza/Kapono/Wright
PF - Johnson/Davis/Evans
C - Bargnani/Johnson

We would still have 2 first round picks in next years draft, while still holding onto expiring contracts and the Bosh TPE... don't see what is really bad about this for Toronto. Thoughts? Or any variations?

we sacrifice alot of flexibility for Deng...no thanks.

[A roc 23]

Deng shoots 41% from the field and is being paid 12-14 million every year until 2014. No thanks!

[ballislife]

Welllll... damn the new CBA... it's gonna make it hard to make any deals, that is unless they roll back existing salaries... that would be sweet.

But hey, would you guys want Vujacic and the Lakers first for Barbosa? That would give us even more flexibility next season, and we'd have 3 first round picks that we could turn into a better pick.

[Rapsfan07]

Also, Chicago's looking for a SG... we could use an upgrade at SF... why not...

To Philly: Peja, James Johnson, Miami's 1st round pick, Omer Asik, Toronto's 2nd round pick

To Chicago: Iguodala

To Toronto: Deng, Kapono (buy out Kopono and stay under the luxury tax)


If we could do this and trade Barbosa for an expiring contract (Barbosa for Vujacic and the Lakers 1st rounder) we would still have the expiring contracts of Kapono and someone like Vujacic adding up to approximately 11 mill in expiring contracts... while retaining a late 1st round pick this season.

PG - Calderon/Bayless/Vujacic
SG - DeRozan/Weems
SF - Deng/Kleiza/Kapono/Wright
PF - Johnson/Davis/Evans
C - Bargnani/Johnson

We would still have 2 first round picks in next years draft, while still holding onto expiring contracts and the Bosh TPE... don't see what is really bad about this for Toronto. Thoughts? Or any variations?

we sacrifice alot of flexibility for Deng...no thanks.

NEVER in my life do I do ANY of the two previously stated trades. Taking on Baron Davis' contract is too high a price for anything. Plus we're giving up picks? Nope. I would laugh at this if I was BC. Plus our center is Andrew Bynum? Wow. His knee constantly having to be drained and the operations? No, no. I would instantly stop watching this team. I'm only giving up picks if a) it brings in GOOD, young, long term potential or b) if it can rid us of Jose's contract. AND DENG?!!? We free all that space for Deng?!?! That's insane. A straight up trade of TPE for Chris Kaman is pretty reasonable I think. If we're getting McGee, Mayo or Jeff Green we can talk about picks (considering that it looks like both our picks will be mediocre). I say we do something along these lines:
I don't know if the teams will do it but...

Barbosa + Weems or Wright----> O.J Mayo
Reggie Evens + pick ----> Jeff Green

That leaves us with this

Calderon/Bayless
Mayo/DeRozan
Kleiza/Green/Peja/ Weems or Wright
Amir/Dorsey/Davis
Kaman/Bargs

I think this team is pretty good. Thoughts?