2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

[crosswalkryan]

ideally you trade Barbosa for a expiring contract.

- draft Harrison Barnes (seems more likely than Irving)
- sign Marc Gasol to a max contract (having Calderon may also persuade him to come) and a max contract will be the only way Memphis cant really afford it.

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Barnes / Klezia
Bargnani / Davis
Gasol / Johnson / Alabi

+ miamis pick.

pretty fun team to watch and would have an exciting future.

I like Gasol and like our odds of landing him. Grizz will have to make a decision on what two to keep: Z-bo, Gasol, OJ Mayo. If they lose Z-bo they lose their 2nd best scorer, and Mayo is still under contract and would have to be dealt before the trade deadline this year. So if he's not dealt I think they will lose Gasol. Can not afford all 3.

Plus he will be 26 and RFA, so max deal ~13-14 mil starting, 5 yrs /80mil = signed to 31. Not bad. Overpaying a little, but that happens in free agency...plus we have the cash and a need for a big physical C.

Do u think Harrison Barnes will fall to the 5-8 range where we will most likely draft?

[NewWolvesOrder]

Evans for Pekovic.

You get a backup center.

Wolves clear salary.

Deal?

[Rapsobsessed7]

ideally you trade Barbosa for a expiring contract.

- draft Harrison Barnes (seems more likely than Irving)
- sign Marc Gasol to a max contract (having Calderon may also persuade him to come) and a max contract will be the only way Memphis cant really afford it.

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Barnes / Klezia
Bargnani / Davis
Gasol / Johnson / Alabi

+ miamis pick.

pretty fun team to watch and would have an exciting future.

I like Gasol and like our odds of landing him. Grizz will have to make a decision on what two to keep: Z-bo, Gasol, OJ Mayo. If they lose Z-bo they lose their 2nd best scorer, and Mayo is still under contract and would have to be dealt before the trade deadline this year. So if he's not dealt I think they will lose Gasol. Can not afford all 3.

Plus he will be 26 and RFA, so max deal ~13-14 mil starting, 5 yrs /80mil = signed to 31. Not bad. Overpaying a little, but that happens in free agency...plus we have the cash and a need for a big physical C.

Do u think Harrison Barnes will fall to the 5-8 range where we will most likely draft?

if Barnes continues on the path hes on he could be the next Derozan in the sense hes hyped up before the draft and slips. Right now i see

Irving
Jones
Kanter
Barnes
Knight

as the top 5. If Barnes continues to struggle hes going to keep falling.

[crosswalkryan]

Just ran some numbers. With keeping Sonny Weems & Joey Dorsey (while renouncing Julian Wright), looks like our payroll next year is sitting at $47,846,191*.
Hard to say what is going to happen with the CBA...
but under the current cap we would have $10,197,809* to sign UFA's.
Renouncing Joey Dorsey would give us an additional $1,091,100*, for cap room of $11,288,909
Then there would be cap holds for our two 1st round picks, estimated at $2,331,700, and $925,100**

= $8,032,109 Cap room.

For that room we would have to renounce the MLE and BA/E, correct me if I am wrong (approx 7.3m)
I think we can keep the rookie exception thus signing our 1st round pick if it puts us over the cap. so add back $2,331,700

= $10,363,809 for UFA

We would need to clear salary for us to put together an offer Memphis won't match, in the $13.5-14m range. Looking at our roster, that means getting rid of either Kleiza or Barbosa.

Kleiza is the more likely one to be traded, as it will be hard to find a taker for Barbosa at this point. We may have to give up a 2nd rounder to get rid of Kleiza with how bad he is playing.

A third option would be to work out a deal with Memphis in a sign & trade for Gasol if it is clear he won't be returning to Memphis. We would give up assets in this scenario but get him for sure.

*hoopshype.com/salaries. We have full bird rights to Sonny Weems, but has a cap hold of 200% of his 2010 minimum salary per CBA rules.
** Shamsports data, 7th and 25th picks

[cb4_jo6]

Honestly, this would be my kinda deal.

Detroit trades:
Richard Hamilton
Rodney Stuckey

Toronto trades:
Jose Calderon
Linez Kleiza
TPE

I think both teams would agree. Dumping hamiltons contract would be huge for them and it would land us a vet who can score. Rodney Stuckey is a solid pg who can be the 6th man on this team.

[God Squad]

No Thank you. I want no part of Hamilton or Stuckey.

[DreamTeam09]

I like Gasol and like our odds of landing him. Grizz will have to make a decision on what two to keep: Z-bo, Gasol, OJ Mayo. If they lose Z-bo they lose their 2nd best scorer, and Mayo is still under contract and would have to be dealt before the trade deadline this year. So if he's not dealt I think they will lose Gasol. Can not afford all 3.

Plus he will be 26 and RFA, so max deal ~13-14 mil starting, 5 yrs /80mil = signed to 31. Not bad. Overpaying a little, but that happens in free agency...plus we have the cash and a need for a big physical C.

Do u think Harrison Barnes will fall to the 5-8 range where we will most likely draft?

if Barnes continues on the path hes on he could be the next Derozan in the sense hes hyped up before the draft and slips. Right now i see

Irving
Jones
Kanter
Barnes
Knight

as the top 5. If Barnes continues to struggle hes going to keep falling.[/quote]

Right now i'd take Terrance Jones from KU over barnes & Knight. So Barnes might be even lower on some ppls totem poll

[bboyskinnylegs]

What do people thin about Batum?

He's not starting in Portland any more and he can provide some good defense, rebounding, and scoring at the 3 spot. Potential to be a really good role player

Blazers turned down the number 4 pick in this years draft for Batum. He hasnt dropped off that bad.

well that was back when Pritchard was running the show, the Blazers are in a very different situation now with Cho and in light of the long term issues with Roy/Oden, so he may be more available now (I think everyone on their team is).

I'd love to try and trade for him, we need wing players that can consistently defend well like Batum can. He would significantly improve our transition D. He can also hit the 3 and rebound -- something we lack from our young wings. Not sure if they are looking for though.

[Three34]

We have full bird rights to Sonny Weems, but has a cap hold of 200% of his 2010 minimum salary per CBA rules.

Weems's cap hold will the size of hsi QO, if/when he gets one. If he doesn't get one, his cap hold will be for the minimum.

That is unless the rules change in the next CBA, of course.

[NH]

Honestly, this would be my kinda deal.

Detroit trades:
Richard Hamilton
Rodney Stuckey

Toronto trades:
Jose Calderon
Linez Kleiza
TPE

I think both teams would agree. Dumping hamiltons contract would be huge for them and it would land us a vet who can score. Rodney Stuckey is a solid pg who can be the 6th man on this team.

No need for Stuckey since we already have Bayless; both are combo guards. I want to get Mayo on this team, and will give up anyone except Bayless, Ed Davis, and our 1st round pick next year to get him.

[Spragga]

Linas Kleiza
Julian Wright

4

Marvin Williams

Klieza and Marvin expire the same year.

[pspot]

Peja for AK makes too much sense, especially after last nights game where Uth went I think 1 for 14 from 3 and it cost them the game

maybe expand it to be Peja and Wright for AK and Fesenko or pick

Raps retain a huge expiring contract but get a player in AK that could seriously improve the defensive intensity of this team.

[Rapsfan07]

Honestly, this would be my kinda deal.

Detroit trades:
Richard Hamilton
Rodney Stuckey

Toronto trades:
Jose Calderon
Linez Kleiza
TPE

I think both teams would agree. Dumping hamiltons contract would be huge for them and it would land us a vet who can score. Rodney Stuckey is a solid pg who can be the 6th man on this team.

No need for Stuckey since we already have Bayless; both are combo guards. I want to get Mayo on this team, and will give up anyone except Bayless, Ed Davis, and our 1st round pick next year to get him.

Yup. Unless DeRozan can play the three (cause him and Mayo would be kinda cool together) then I'd possibly be willing to throw him in too. I'm thinking something along these lines...

OKC Out:
Jeff Green
OKC In:
Reggie Evans, (Miami pick?)

Ok. This seems like a bit of a stretch but I actually think with the move, OKC gets a rebounding animal who plays tough D and is also an expiring. I think this will balance out their floor a bit better.

Portland Out:
Andre Miller
Portland In:
Jose Calderon

Portland get rid of their older PG and take back a younger, pass first point guard who tends to work efficiently in the half court. He has better 3-point range than Miller. I think Caldy will work and fit here too.

Memphis Out:
O.J Mayo, filler (Haddadi?)
Memphis In:
Leandro Barbosa, (TPE?)

Memphis gets a veteran who is capable of playing both guard spots who can provide and lead the offense off the bench without conflicting really wanting to join the starting lineup. He's fast and can score in bunches. If the TPE does get included, it'll allow some financial flexibility. I think its becoming increasingly obvious that Memphis can't pay Mayo, Z-bo AND Gasol. Somebody's gonna have to go and I don't think that this is a bad package at all.

TOR Out:
Reggie Evans
Jose Calderon
Leandro Barbosa
(TPE?)
(Miami pick?)
TOR In:
O.J Mayo + filler (Haddadi?)
Jeff Green
Andre Miller

Great trade for us. Solid starting SF in Green, SG in Mayo and a great passer with a shorter, cheaper contract in MIller. With his passing abilities, he will definitely contribute to the development of our younger players and be that locker room voice that this team needs. Haddadi would be a great filler since we really need bigs on this team. Unfortunately, we do give up the Miami pick (which is a small price) and roster problems could arise with Bayless and Mayo (since they're both combo guards and Mayo and DeRozan since they'll be competing for the starting spot (maybe we throw in Weems somewhere to sweeten a deal?)

Miller/Bayless
Mayo/DeRozan
Green/Kleiza/Wright/Peja
Davis/Dorsey/Amir
Bargnani/Alabi/Haddadi

What does everyone think?

[Indeed]

Marcus Camby, Andre Miller and Joel Przybilla are candidates to be dealt.

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wireta ... _veterans/

Not sure how much they cost, maybe they want to keep Oden.

I would be interested in Joel Przbilla for Evans + future 2nd.

[SolomonSkyHook]

If this is only a salary dump, I wish BC would trade Dorsey for Clark.

[A roc 23]

If this is only a salary dump, I wish BC would trade Dorsey for Clark.

Clark is pretty much a bulkier Julian Wright, but I'm still down. The guy was a lottery pick 2 years ago, but so far as a Suns fan he's crushed my hope that he will develop. He looks lost in games and didn't even look like a bench guy in the summer leagues.

[Rapsobsessed7]

heres something

To TOR: Jeffries + Henderson
To HOU: Brown + Najera + 3 million (TOR facilitates Najera buyout)
To CHA: Dorsey + Barbosa

Raptors get younger and save 5 million next year, enough for a max contract

Houston gets under luxury tax and get a younger player in brown

Bobcats get someone like Barbosa who they can use at the point or as a SG and would be a nice fit IMO.

2010/2011 Roster:

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Henderson / Wright
Weems / Klezia / Peja
Johnson / Davis / Evans
Bargnani / Jeffries / Alabi

but in 2011/2012 heres what you do
- Offer Marc Gasol a max contract (highly doubt Memphis matches that and you drastically overpay to get him) He comes because of Calderon and that connection
- Draft Harrison Barnes
- Draft someone with miamis pick

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Henderson
Barnes / Klezia
Bargnani / Davis
Gasol / Johnson

solid young team.

[HomieOmey]

I would be ok with such a trade, but unless we sign Gasol, we probably won't need that extra cap space anyways, so I question whether or not we will be able to sign someone better than Barbosa, since we'll still have cap space regardless. It's a trade that ensures we get a better pick, which is probably needed, but hard to root for.

[Qdogg17]

Rebuild, using all assets.

Trade 1:
To Charlotte-
Jose Calderon
Reggie Evans
Sonny Weems
Julian Wright

To Toronto-
Boris Diaw
DJ Augustine
Matt Carroll

Charlotte has expressed interest in Jose and Reggie. Get a look at 2 young prospects.
Toronto gives the keys to Bayless and they like Diaw.

Trade 2:
To Oklahoma-
Demar Derozan
Amir Johnson

To Toronto-
Jeff Green
Morris Peterson

Green is under-utilized in Oklahoma and fits better at SF beside a guy like Bargnani.
Oklahoma gets great complimentary players to surround Durrant. Potential star in Derozan.

Trade 3:
To Philadelphia-
Peja Stojakovic
1st round pick(Tor)

To Toronto-
Andre Iguodala

Toronto uses Peja expiring to pick up another great piece.
Philly rids themselves of Iggy's contract and picks up a potentially good draft pick.

Trade 4:
To Clippers-
TPE
1st round pick(Mia)

To Toronto-
Chris Kaman

Clippers can use pick and TPE to gain future pieces or let the TPE expire for cap relief.

Toronto Roster:
C- Kaman/Davis/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/Diaw/Dorsey
SF- Green/Kleiza/Peterson
SG- Iguodala/Barbosa/Carroll
PG- Bayless/Augustine/Barbosa

IMO, this team is 5th or 6th best team in East.

[dagger]

^

Great, MLSE laughs at you. A treadmill team for $80 million + $10 million in luxury tax next season if you plan to keep Green.