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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#421 » by henrydunn13 » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:58 pm

Qdogg17 wrote:Rebuild, using all assets.

Trade 1:
To Charlotte-
Jose Calderon
Reggie Evans
Sonny Weems
Julian Wright

To Toronto-
Boris Diaw
DJ Augustine
Matt Carroll

Charlotte has expressed interest in Jose and Reggie. Get a look at 2 young prospects.
Toronto gives the keys to Bayless and they like Diaw.

Trade 2:
To Oklahoma-
Demar Derozan
Amir Johnson

To Toronto-
Jeff Green
Morris Peterson

Green is under-utilized in Oklahoma and fits better at SF beside a guy like Bargnani.
Oklahoma gets great complimentary players to surround Durrant. Potential star in Derozan.

Trade 3:
To Philadelphia-
Peja Stojakovic
1st round pick(Tor)

To Toronto-
Andre Iguodala

Toronto uses Peja expiring to pick up another great piece.
Philly rids themselves of Iggy's contract and picks up a potentially good draft pick.

Trade 4:
To Clippers-
TPE
1st round pick(Mia)

To Toronto-
Chris Kaman

Clippers can use pick and TPE to gain future pieces or let the TPE expire for cap relief.

Toronto Roster:
C- Kaman/Davis/Alabi
PF- Bargnani/Diaw/Dorsey
SF- Green/Kleiza/Peterson
SG- Iguodala/Barbosa/Carroll
PG- Bayless/Augustine/Barbosa

IMO, this team is 5th or 6th best team in East.


^^ I'll do the Kaman deal, and if the Raptors have a shot at the trade deadline, maybe I do the Iggy deal too. The others I wouldn't. (F*ck the MikeCats, and I don't want to pay Jeff Green)

Kaman/Johnson/Dorsey/Alabi
Bargnani/Davis/Evans
DeRozan/Kleiza/Wright
Barbosa/Weems
Calderon/Bayless

Ya, I'd leave Iggy out. Let's get Kaman! Or Gortat! Or Camby! Or Pryzbilla!
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#422 » by Crazy-Canuck » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:09 am

pspot wrote:Peja for AK makes too much sense, especially after last nights game where Uth went I think 1 for 14 from 3 and it cost them the game

maybe expand it to be Peja and Wright for AK and Fesenko or pick

Raps retain a huge expiring contract but get a player in AK that could seriously improve the defensive intensity of this team.



Peja for AK47 straight up. This should be a no brainer.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#423 » by timdunkit » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:37 am

AK >>>> Peja ... sorry guys but thats a huge steal for us. AK is way better hten Peja
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#424 » by bboyskinnylegs » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:42 am

timdunkit wrote:AK >>>> Peja ... sorry guys but thats a huge steal for us. AK is way better hten Peja

and he's a key part of that Jazz team... this only happens if the Jazz just can't deal with the lux tax payments. They'll probably ride out the year and just resign AK to a reasonable deal.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#425 » by mercy » Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:58 am

I know OKC has a bit of depth in big men but my interest in James Harden lead me to create a proposal anyway.

To OKC:

Ed Davis
Julian Wright
2nd round pick

To TOR:

James Harden
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#426 » by theSkinny » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:04 am

We would then have two of the leagues most epic beards.. make another move for Turiaf and we can change our name to the "Toronto Mighty Beards"
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#427 » by bboyskinnylegs » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:31 am

mercy wrote:I know OKC has a bit of depth in big men but my interest in James Harden lead me to create a proposal anyway.

To OKC:

Ed Davis
Julian Wright
2nd round pick

To TOR:

James Harden

It would be tough giving up Ed because I really like his defensive potential, but for Harden yeah I think I'd do it. I like the idea of having a wing that can shoot the ball (like Mayo/Harden) to develop alongside DeMar on the wings and space the floor well.

Bayless/Jose
Harden/Barbosa
DD/Weems
Amir/Kleiza?/Dorsey
Bargs/Alabi
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#428 » by NH » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:12 am

mercy wrote:I know OKC has a bit of depth in big men but my interest in James Harden lead me to create a proposal anyway.

To OKC:

Ed Davis
Julian Wright
2nd round pick

To TOR:

James Harden


I'm not oposed to trading Ed Davis if it can net us Harden or Mayo, but for this trade I would want Aldrich back... If not, we can take out Wright. Frankly I rather traded Davis and Weems for Mayo if need be..
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#429 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:48 am

What about this. Follows my plan if dumping Barbosa for an expiring

Raptors Send:
Barbosa
Peja
Miami 1st

Bucks Send:
Redd
CDR

Toronto clears Barbosas salary next year. Gain someone young in CDR

Bucks go all out. They could retrade Peja by himself but they add a backup PG/SG which is where he would play and I think they become extremely deadly

Jennings / Barbosa / Boykins
Salmons / Barbosa / Dooling
Delfino / Maggette / Peja
Ersan / Moute / Brockman
Bogut / Gooden / Sanders

Maybe trade Peja to get a PF/C and I think you have a team that can take Boston in a 7 game series

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems / Redd
CDR / Klezia / Wright
Johnson / Davis / Evans
Bargnani / Dorsey / Alabi

Pretty nice young team. Has max cap room next year I also think it makes us slightly worse this year making our pick better

My dream offseason would be:
- Draft Harrison Barnes
- Sign Marc Gasol: max contract, 5 years. Doubt Memphis matches
- re-sign Sonny Weems only has 1 million cap hold

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Barnes / Klezia
Bargnani / Davis
Gasol / Johnson / Alabi

+ fill out team with minimums. How exciting and fun would that team be. You have a all around solid young up and coming group
A max offer may make Memphis think twice
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#430 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:58 am

^^ Great trade because its actually realistic & makes sense all around. ^^ Yea that is the line-up I wanna see out there next yr too. I'll take either of the jones or barnes.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#431 » by Qdogg17 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:59 am

dagger wrote:^

Great, MLSE laughs at you. A treadmill team for $80 million + $10 million in luxury tax next season if you plan to keep Green.


Oh, you mean Rogers? LOL
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#432 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:09 pm

what about this if were going for the playoffs.

To TOR: Iguodala + Songilia + Kapono
To PHI: Redd + CDR + Miami Pick
To MIL: Peja + Barbosa

Toronto gets Iggy to make that push

Phi gets a pick and expirings

Mil gets Barbosa to load up their team.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#433 » by NH » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:55 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:What about this. Follows my plan if dumping Barbosa for an expiring

Raptors Send:
Barbosa
Peja
Miami 1st

Bucks Send:
Redd
CDR

Toronto clears Barbosas salary next year. Gain someone young in CDR

Bucks go all out. They could retrade Peja by himself but they add a backup PG/SG which is where he would play and I think they become extremely deadly

Jennings / Barbosa / Boykins
Salmons / Barbosa / Dooling
Delfino / Maggette / Peja
Ersan / Moute / Brockman
Bogut / Gooden / Sanders

Maybe trade Peja to get a PF/C and I think you have a team that can take Boston in a 7 game series

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems / Redd
CDR / Klezia / Wright
Johnson / Davis / Evans
Bargnani / Dorsey / Alabi

Pretty nice young team. Has max cap room next year I also think it makes us slightly worse this year making our pick better

My dream offseason would be:
- Draft Harrison Barnes
- Sign Marc Gasol: max contract, 5 years. Doubt Memphis matches
- re-sign Sonny Weems only has 1 million cap hold

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Barnes / Klezia
Bargnani / Davis
Gasol / Johnson / Alabi

+ fill out team with minimums. How exciting and fun would that team be. You have a all around solid young up and coming group
A max offer may make Memphis think twice


Hmm sorry but why are we trading Miami's first pick and Barbosa essentially for CDR and more cap space? Barbosa has been quite useful, and the first round pick is always good for a rebuilding team. Frankly I doubt we can sign Gasol outright since the Grizz seem to make him a priority signing, and he is a RFA. Raptors will really have to over pay for Gasol. I am okay with trading Barbosa for a more useful player like Mayo. CDR is a pass for me at this point.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#434 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 12:59 am

NH wrote:
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:What about this. Follows my plan if dumping Barbosa for an expiring

Raptors Send:
Barbosa
Peja
Miami 1st

Bucks Send:
Redd
CDR

Toronto clears Barbosas salary next year. Gain someone young in CDR

Bucks go all out. They could retrade Peja by himself but they add a backup PG/SG which is where he would play and I think they become extremely deadly

Jennings / Barbosa / Boykins
Salmons / Barbosa / Dooling
Delfino / Maggette / Peja
Ersan / Moute / Brockman
Bogut / Gooden / Sanders

Maybe trade Peja to get a PF/C and I think you have a team that can take Boston in a 7 game series

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems / Redd
CDR / Klezia / Wright
Johnson / Davis / Evans
Bargnani / Dorsey / Alabi

Pretty nice young team. Has max cap room next year I also think it makes us slightly worse this year making our pick better

My dream offseason would be:
- Draft Harrison Barnes
- Sign Marc Gasol: max contract, 5 years. Doubt Memphis matches
- re-sign Sonny Weems only has 1 million cap hold

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Weems
Barnes / Klezia
Bargnani / Davis
Gasol / Johnson / Alabi

+ fill out team with minimums. How exciting and fun would that team be. You have a all around solid young up and coming group
A max offer may make Memphis think twice


Hmm sorry but why are we trading Miami's first pick and Barbosa essentially for CDR and more cap space? Barbosa has been quite useful, and the first round pick is always good for a rebuilding team. Frankly I doubt we can sign Gasol outright since the Grizz seem to make him a priority signing, and he is a RFA. Raptors will really have to over pay for Gasol. I am okay with trading Barbosa for a more useful player like Mayo. CDR is a pass for me at this point.


The ideas on this board are hilarious. I'm completely baffled. I can't understand people's obsession with cap space and the crazy moves they'll do to get it. When was the last time T.O has reeled in a player via free agency that was worth all the trades people are saying we should make? Watching the Raptors this season, I think BC has done a great job of bringing in players who nobody thought was anything through experience, PT and talent are making something of themselves. Julian Wright and Bayless (always been a fan of) are good examples. What I suggest look at players who have high upside and/or will contribute to the team without taking on TOO MUCH salary. Players we should look at are as follows:

Jeff Green
OJ Mayo
Greg Oden
Thabeet
Andre Iguodala

What they have in common is their future with their current teams are uncertain. This is our time to make some moves. I like Marc Gasol and think he's a good player but to be honest, our chances of getting him are VERY slim or we overpay him. I don't want to over pay anyone right now at all. That said, our positions of need are SF (that can create, pass and shoot long range), PG (somewhat....hopefully solved though the draft) and C (that rebounds and plays good D). At the same time, we want our draft pick to be higher so we need to wait a bit (unless any of those players are mentioned in serious talks). If we make moves, it should be for one of these guys as they will come in and turn things around for us for sure. Personally, I make a run at Green before Iggy because of how the numbers work out and how much he might be coveted around the league.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#435 » by Rapsobsessed7 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:48 am

Here's a realistic one. I think this one could happen

To TOR: Allen + Thabeet
To MEM: Evans + Wright + Miami 1st

Save 8.3 million next year for the Grizz. A huge amount. Toronto gets a big man that's a project but big men take 5 years to develop usually. I also think he gets PT here

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Barbosa / Allen
Weems / Klezia / Peja (probably bought out)
Johnson / Davis / Dorsey
Bargnani / Thabeet / Alabi

Take a chance. It could pan out. If it doesn't who cares really since the Miami pick is also a chance
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#436 » by dagger » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:28 am

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Here's a realistic one. I think this one could happen

To TOR: Allen + Thabeet
To MEM: Evans + Wright + Miami 1st

Save 8.3 million next year for the Grizz. A huge amount. Toronto gets a big man that's a project but big men take 5 years to develop usually. I also think he gets PT here

Calderon / Bayless
Derozan / Barbosa / Allen
Weems / Klezia / Peja (probably bought out)
Johnson / Davis / Dorsey
Bargnani / Thabeet / Alabi

Take a chance. It could pan out. If it doesn't who cares really since the Miami pick is also a chance


You don't give up a first for Thabeet. You want two scrubs they are trying to get rid of. For that kind of salary relief, you take Mayo instead of Allen, or you swap the Miami pick for the Grizz #1, say, top 10 protected.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#437 » by ballislife » Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:47 am

Toronto:
One of: Leandro Barbosa/ Reggie Evans/ TPE (would be used in 2 separate deals)
Ed Davis
Miami 1st

Memphis:
OJ Mayo
Hasheem Thabeet

The Raptors get a centre prospect with defensive potential (something they could use) and a legitimate starting 2 who can help with the play making - fits in well with the young core going forward. If Thabeet proves to be effective given minutes, he could potentially be a great defensive presence next to Bargnani. Letting go of Barbosa and Davis allows Weems to assume Barbosa's role as a scorer off the bench, and Thabeet takes over Davis's minutes.

The Grizzlies can get a replacement for Mayo off the bench - a guy who's proven to be effective in a 6th man role. Or they can get a straight up expiring contract who could help the front court off the bench. OR they can obtain the TPE and get rid of the salaries as a whole off this seasons payroll. They would also get a young promising defensive big man in Ed Davis as well as a first rounder. Helps Memphis in the short and long term to get a deal done with Gasol and maintain some youth development going forward.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#438 » by NH » Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:56 pm

ballislife wrote:Toronto:
One of: Leandro Barbosa/ Reggie Evans/ TPE (would be used in 2 separate deals)
Ed Davis
Miami 1st

Memphis:
OJ Mayo
Hasheem Thabeet

The Raptors get a centre prospect with defensive potential (something they could use) and a legitimate starting 2 who can help with the play making - fits in well with the young core going forward. If Thabeet proves to be effective given minutes, he could potentially be a great defensive presence next to Bargnani. Letting go of Barbosa and Davis allows Weems to assume Barbosa's role as a scorer off the bench, and Thabeet takes over Davis's minutes.

The Grizzlies can get a replacement for Mayo off the bench - a guy who's proven to be effective in a 6th man role. Or they can get a straight up expiring contract who could help the front court off the bench. OR they can obtain the TPE and get rid of the salaries as a whole off this seasons payroll. They would also get a young promising defensive big man in Ed Davis as well as a first rounder. Helps Memphis in the short and long term to get a deal done with Gasol and maintain some youth development going forward.


This one looks good. I am not sure what Memphis wants (cap relief?) in which case it will probably be Reggie going. I will miss Ed, but you have to give something to get something. Probably throw in Weems there too since we will then have a glut of wingmen.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#439 » by Blade_Runner » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:13 pm

NH wrote:
ballislife wrote:Toronto:
One of: Leandro Barbosa/ Reggie Evans/ TPE (would be used in 2 separate deals)
Ed Davis
Miami 1st

Memphis:
OJ Mayo
Hasheem Thabeet

The Raptors get a centre prospect with defensive potential (something they could use) and a legitimate starting 2 who can help with the play making - fits in well with the young core going forward. If Thabeet proves to be effective given minutes, he could potentially be a great defensive presence next to Bargnani. Letting go of Barbosa and Davis allows Weems to assume Barbosa's role as a scorer off the bench, and Thabeet takes over Davis's minutes.

The Grizzlies can get a replacement for Mayo off the bench - a guy who's proven to be effective in a 6th man role. Or they can get a straight up expiring contract who could help the front court off the bench. OR they can obtain the TPE and get rid of the salaries as a whole off this seasons payroll. They would also get a young promising defensive big man in Ed Davis as well as a first rounder. Helps Memphis in the short and long term to get a deal done with Gasol and maintain some youth development going forward.


This one looks good. I am not sure what Memphis wants (cap relief?) in which case it will probably be Reggie going. I will miss Ed, but you have to give something to get something. Probably throw in Weems there too since we will then have a glut of wingmen.


A deal has to have a motivation for both sides. You wonder if there is a need for them to push for a playoff spot as the motivator for doing a deal. If so, a deal would have to make their starting 5 or 6th man better and that means a 2/3 slasher - someone like Iggy or ? That being said, if not, Randolph/Peja can expand the deal.
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Re: 2010 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread 

Post#440 » by SDM » Tue Dec 14, 2010 2:14 pm

I see Mayo being available for the TPE/Miami pick.

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