Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony

[towelie]

Sounds like this could take a while.

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
With $17 million worth of savings coming its way, Det will be patient with Den & NJ. No timetable for them to get deal done, sources say.

Of course Det will wait. They got a boner just from the fact that a team was interested in taking on Rip.

[bruddahmanmatt]

LOL @ Denver wanting Blake Griffin. Like I said, there is so much BS and excessive stalling coming from the Denver FO that it's obvious the Nuggets are either attempting to drum up some action from the Knicks or Rose is pulling all of the strings...or both. Kncks trade or no trade.

[Blackmun]

Yeah, this does not make sense. The trade Nets and Pistons have going for Melo should be making the Nuggets GM wet himself while spanking his ass and screaming mama.

If Nuggets are the ones stalling on this, they're absolutely (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Only other option kinda have to be Melo stalling.

[ikidunot]

As the Nets and Pistons wait for a decision from Denver on the future of Carmelo Anthony, the Houston Rockets have quietly made a push to acquire the All-Star forward, league sources told SI.com.
Sources told SI.com in August that Anthony would be willing to sign with the Rockets but that was before Yao's season-ending injury.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/b ... z1AlE6Yl4w

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2011/1/10/1927903/rockets-making-late-push-for-carmelo-anthony

I think this trade would work. Melo and Nene(Houston needs a center don't they?). Give them Yao expiring contract, a first round pick, Scola, Patterson(they aren't using him anyway) and Brad Miller
I think Houston would be willing to take on Al Harrington contract for Melo and Nene.

[H-town]

Patterson(they aren't using him anyway)

lol ........

[corona]

This doesn't even resemble rational thought, so I don't really know how to reply to it. How does getting traded equate circumventing the CBA?

the cba does not allow under the table agreements. it also doesn't allow players to communicate with other teams while under contract. the nba also has set a standard of holding players accountable for the actions of their agents...

NBA President of League & Basketball Operations Joel Litvin: “The agent has a legal relationship with that player. He speaks for the player, he acts for the player, he’s a fiduciary for that player. You can only imagine if we didn't hold players accountable for the actions and words of their agents, how easy it would be to get around a lot of our rules. We don’t think players can disown what agents are saying and doing on their behalf.”

it makes perfect sense that what leon rose and melo are doing is circumventing the cba. from all the reports i've seen, he's contacting teams....seeing what can be done to get melo to his preferred destination with a competitive team (thus limiting denvers return), while also inking that 65 million dollar extension. they're under contract, talking to teams, trying to force denvers hand...etc.

that's all perfectly legal, apparently, but kroenke potentially telling CAA off is grounds for a giant lawsuit.

[corona]

As the Nets and Pistons wait for a decision from Denver on the future of Carmelo Anthony, the Houston Rockets have quietly made a push to acquire the All-Star forward, league sources told SI.com.
Sources told SI.com in August that Anthony would be willing to sign with the Rockets but that was before Yao's season-ending injury.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/b ... z1AlE6Yl4w

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2011/1/10/1927903/rockets-making-late-push-for-carmelo-anthony

I think this trade would work. Melo and Nene(Houston needs a center don't they?). Give them Yao expiring contract, a first round pick, Scola, Patterson(they aren't using him anyway) and Brad Miller
I think Houston would be willing to take on Al Harrington contract for Melo and Nene.

ugh.
houstons not in the conversation unless carmelo tells denver it's NY or nothing, and houston's willing to rent him for a half season, and denver thinks their offer is better than new york.
what do they offer melo? a chance to win? with brooks and martin? no. hometown? no. the sort of celebrity city that lala appears to want? no. a rich ass owner thats willing to do anything to win? no.

that houston package doesn't come close to new jersey's. neither does the situation as far as melo should be concerned. i don't understand why they keep getting brought up.

and furthermore....you want nene....a verge all-star who's not even that old, for free along with melo.

[badonkadonkdonk]

it makes perfect sense that what leon rose and melo are doing is circumventing the cba. from all the reports i've seen, he's contacting teams....seeing what can be done to get melo to his preferred destination with a competitive team (thus limiting denvers return), while also inking that 65 million dollar extension.

that's all perfectly legal, apparently, but kroenke potentially telling CAA off is grounds for a giant lawsuit.

pretty sure they let the nuggets FO know about their plans first. agents looking for deals usually starts after they asked the management for a trade. then they get the ok to go out. this seems to follow protocol

[bruddahmanmatt]

As the Nets and Pistons wait for a decision from Denver on the future of Carmelo Anthony, the Houston Rockets have quietly made a push to acquire the All-Star forward, league sources told SI.com.
Sources told SI.com in August that Anthony would be willing to sign with the Rockets but that was before Yao's season-ending injury.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/b ... z1AlE6Yl4w

http://www.thedreamshake.com/2011/1/10/1927903/rockets-making-late-push-for-carmelo-anthony

I think this trade would work. Melo and Nene(Houston needs a center don't they?). Give them Yao expiring contract, a first round pick, Scola, Patterson(they aren't using him anyway) and Brad Miller
I think Houston would be willing to take on Al Harrington contract for Melo and Nene.

Except that I doubt Melo would be willing to sign an extension with Houston. All of these potential trade scenarios are still predicated on one thing, Anthony agreeing to extend with his new team. Don't really see that happening in Houston.

Yeah, this does not make sense. The trade Nets and Pistons have going for Melo should be making the Nuggets GM wet himself while spanking his ass and screaming mama.

If Nuggets are the ones stalling on this, they're absolutely (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Only other option kinda have to be Melo stalling.

It just simply doesn't add up. Denver's trade demands with New Jersey have actually continued to INCREASE over time when really with no legitimate interest from other teams outside of New York (since Melo will ultimately decline an extension) the Nuggets don't have much leverage. Thing is, despite Denver's asinine requests, PROKHOROV KEEPS SAYING "YES". LOL. The Russian continues to call Denver's bluff each and every time. He's slowed up with the Harrington demand because I'm guessing that he's finally starting to realize how outrageous the Nuggets are willing to let it get but push come to shove, I'd be willing to wager that if Harrington were the clincher, no question would New Jersey take on his money. A guarantee from Melo that he'll ink an extension is well worth Al's MLE contract. It's just that Mikhail saying "ok" yet again at this point will only prompt yet another absurd demand from the Nuggets to further stall talks. "You'll take Al? Good, take Andersen while you're at it". This isn't bordering on absurd, it IS absurd. If Denver had their way they'd probably push for New Jersey to take on practically their entire team. You want the clown who's demanding a trade? Fine, take all of the bad contracts we took on in an attempt to put talent around him. Billups, Harrington, Andersen, and take Martin's huge expiring while you're at it, we'll settle for a trade exception. Hell we might just throw in Nene and Smith while we're at it.

[Kerrsed]

@ESPNVerrier Nuggets now asking Nets to find a taker for the Honda Accord sitting in Kroenke's driveway for the past three months. about 3 hours ago

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Yes i did know. Our Queen is back!!!!

[DaeDae]

Yeah, I used to feel sorry for Denver, but now I'm hoping NJ walks away, and Denver loses Melo for nothing.

[cb1115]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
It sounds like Carmelo Anthony was prepared to be dealt to New Jersey until, as sources close to him put it, "Joe Dumars messed it all up."

?

[triplet1984]

That doesn't even make sense. There was no deal in place until New Jersey brought Detroit in.

to be honest, nothing coming out of Denver (Melo or Nuggets FO) seems to make any sense. What are they smoking over there and how can I get it?

[cb1115]

Well it is Alex Kennedy.

[bruddahmanmatt]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
It sounds like Carmelo Anthony was prepared to be dealt to New Jersey until, as sources close to him put it, "Joe Dumars messed it all up."

?

HAHAHAHAHAHA. Like I said, this entire ordeal has been nothing but bulls**t from the get-go. Blaming Dumars now? Are you F'in kidding me? All of the reports stated that New Jersey and Detroit were all set to go and that it was on Denver and now it's Joe's fault. Yes it's true that Ben Gordon and Charlie V. are Joe's fault but these failed trade talks involving Melo and Rip are certainly NOT on him. Getting rid of Hamilton's K is well worth Murphy's expiring and Petro's small (in comparison to Rip's) money.

[triplet1984]

Not only that, MELO'S OWN AGENT was the one pushing to get Rip there. Hilarious.

[bruddahmanmatt]

Not only that, MELO'S OWN AGENT was the one pushing to get Rip there. Hilarious.

Well Leon Rose represents both Melo and Rip. I've said it before and I'll continue to say it, this is either Rose trying to convince Melo to take New Jersey because Rose doesn't see New York as a guaranteed thing, or this is Denver attempting (and FAILing yet again) to get New York to outbid New Jersey which if the Knicks are smart, they'll flat-out refuse to do since they (if Melo continues to refuse an extension with New Jersey) have all the leverage.

[AllBall]

The fact that Woj reported that the trade negotiations have gone completely private, we are getting made up information because of that and thats why it makes no sense. Woj has yet to make an update, so I think that negotiations are still ongoing and thats why we haven't heard nothing out of Woj. Its the "calm" before the storm (of news) if you will.

[bruddahmanmatt]

The fact that Woj reported that the trade negotiations have gone completely private, we are getting made up information because of that and thats why it makes no sense. Woj has yet to make an update, so I think that negotiations are still ongoing and thats why we haven't heard nothing out of Woj. Its the "calm" before the storm (of news) if you will.

Not likely. There is absolutely ZERO benefit for the Nuggets at this point if the Nets and the Pistons were to all of a sudden work with Denver to keep things under wraps. There may have been some benefit before (as far as New York not knowing how much and how far New Jersey was willing to go in order to get him) when folks were unaware of how much NJ was willing to give up in order to get Melo but now that EVERYONE (including New York) knows the Nets are willing to throw in the kitchen sink it's well beyond "keeping things under wraps" at this point. Denver is simply putting it out there that they're still willing to deal with the Knicks, they'd just prefer to dangle "behave or we'll deal with New York" in front of Walsh in the hopes that Walsh will bite and serve up an offer that outdoes Prokhorov's. The Knicks seem to be smarter than that though as they've continued to sit quietly while Denver blows smoke at everyone. Denver is attempting to use New Jersey's absurd offer to gain leverage over New York in order to get the Knicks to make a similarly ludicrous offer but New York is smart enough to know that Melo would never sign an extension with the Nets.

[AllBall]

Well we'll find out soon enough if my theory is correct. Either they're going to come out and say it fell through or that it went through. 50/50. Point is no one is saying nothing.