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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#981 » by AllBall » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:16 am

dcash4 wrote:woj is the most reliable nba info guy there is. latest thing he's been first with is denver threatening to pull the plug on everything if info didn't stop being leaked.


Exactly. Also notice that since he reported that he hasn't made an update. Why? Because it is true that they have gone completely private with negotiations, so he's not sitting there making up stuff like every other source is doing right now on the internet. They've gone private, there's nothing to report. The next time Woj updates will probably be to say its done or its not happening.
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Post#982 » by bruddahmanmatt » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:18 am

AllBall wrote:Calm down bro. lol. He reported that there was trade negotiations happening, go read his articles if you don't believe it, and that is true. He was also right with the whole Orlando/Washington/Phoenix trade when it was happening. Chris Broussard is not reliable dude, face it. I'm listening to his dumb@ss right now on Sporscenter babbling.

Woj is on top of this, so the next time you see an update from him pay attention. He's gonna get it right. Book it.


My point is that Woj was reporting that this trade was legit just like everyone else when clearly it's looking like yet another BS move on the part of the Nuggets. He (like everyone in the media) was right in that there actually were talks taking place but he (like everyone in the media) never stopped to think that the entire trade was BS from the get-go.

As far as Woj. being legit is concerned, he's generally right when he reports things but he usually doesn't report things until very late. In that sense he's accurate, but that tends to be the case when you wait until the very last minute to report on something. In the realm of sports news you can either consistently be first (but frequently wrong) or consistently be right (but frequently late), Rarely is anyone both. I won't deny that Woj. tends to be accurate in what he reports, but generally speaking by the time he speaks on an issue other sources have already taken a chance on guessing to bring us the story.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#983 » by cb1115 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:20 am

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Melo emphatically says that his wife LaLa is not a driving force to him wanting to be dealt and she is not calling the shots.


Which means she's telling him to go to NY.
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#984 » by VCRJKidd15 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:21 am

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Post#985 » by AllBall » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:24 am

bruddahmanmatt wrote:My point is that Woj was reporting that this trade was legit just like everyone else when clearly it's looking like yet another BS move on the part of the Nuggets. He (like everyone in the media) was right in that there actually were talks taking place but he (like everyone in the media) never stopped to think that the entire trade was BS from the get-go.


He didn't report that it was a done deal. He was reporting what was happening, that trade negotiations where going on. Which is true.

What do you mean the entire trade is BS? I don't know what you wanted him to say really. :dontknow:

He's just reporting the facts. The known. Not opinions on the trade.
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Post#986 » by bruddahmanmatt » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:27 am

AllBall wrote:
bruddahmanmatt wrote:My point is that Woj was reporting that this trade was legit just like everyone else when clearly it's looking like yet another BS move on the part of the Nuggets. He (like everyone in the media) was right in that there actually were talks taking place but he (like everyone in the media) never stopped to think that the entire trade was BS from the get-go.


He didn't report that it was a done deal. He was reporting what was happening, that trade negotiations where going on. Which is true.

What do you mean the entire trade is BS? I don't know what you wanted him to say really. :dontknow:

He's just reporting the facts. The known. Not opinions on the trade.


What I mean is that this trade (just like the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade) seems to have been BS from the get-go. This was nothing more than Denver attempting to create leverage to use against the Knicks. "Look at what New Jersey is willing to give us for Melo, now you do the same". This is exactly what they did with the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade. Once things are supposedly close to being a done deal, they change the terms and continually stall because there is no actual deal to be made since Anthony still refuses to sign an extension with New Jersey. Denver is attempting to get New York to outbid the Nets.
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Post#987 » by johnwall » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:33 am

GameTime_3 wrote:What Melo is doing is terrible. His forcing his team's hand and yet most people aren't giving him crap for it. LeBron at least waited till he was a FREE agent to decide where he was going. Its funny, that the same fans who bash LeBron for his decision are the ones cheering Melo on.


how is what he is doing terrible? he has all the leverage, these owners basically control players, give them big deals and ship them away for exps once their useless, melo is playing his hand, denver doesnt have to trade him but if they do melo calls the shots. everybody in america not just sports gets to choose their own jobs, why cant melo?
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Post#988 » by Jordan45822 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:42 am

GameTime_3 wrote:What Melo is doing is terrible. His forcing his team's hand and yet most people aren't giving him crap for it. LeBron at least waited till he was a FREE agent to decide where he was going. Its funny, that the same fans who bash LeBron for his decision are the ones cheering Melo on.


Dude the guy has not even said anything about wanting out at all. Its the media
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Post#989 » by J Smitty » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:43 am

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GameTime_3 wrote:What Melo is doing is terrible. His forcing his team's hand and yet most people aren't giving him crap for it. LeBron at least waited till he was a FREE agent to decide where he was going. Its funny, that the same fans who bash LeBron for his decision are the ones cheering Melo on.


Dude the guy has not even said anything about wanting out at all. Its the media


May not be vocal, but you can't say he isn't saying anything in this situation.
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Post#990 » by AllBall » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:43 am

bruddahmanmatt wrote:What I mean is that this trade (just like the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade) seems to have been BS from the get-go. This was nothing more than Denver attempting to create leverage to use against the Knicks. "Look at what New Jersey is willing to give us for Melo, now you do the same". This is exactly what they did with the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade. Once things are supposedly close to being a done deal, they change the terms and continually stall because there is no actual deal to be made since Anthony still refuses to sign an extension with New Jersey. Denver is attempting to get New York to outbid the Nets.


So he should have reported an opinion, basically thats what you're saying. :-? :-? :-?
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Post#991 » by bruddahmanmatt » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:51 am

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bruddahmanmatt wrote:What I mean is that this trade (just like the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade) seems to have been BS from the get-go. This was nothing more than Denver attempting to create leverage to use against the Knicks. "Look at what New Jersey is willing to give us for Melo, now you do the same". This is exactly what they did with the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade. Once things are supposedly close to being a done deal, they change the terms and continually stall because there is no actual deal to be made since Anthony still refuses to sign an extension with New Jersey. Denver is attempting to get New York to outbid the Nets.


So he should have reported an opinion, basically thats what you're saying. :-? :-? :-?


It doesn't take a genius to figure out that any potential trade involving Anthony still hinges on him being willing to sign an extension. Anyone with a brain would at least make it a point to highlight that fact considering that it's well-known Melo wants New York and only New York at this point. All of these "sources" were claiming "it's happening, it's close, almost there etc..." without even touching on the subject of an extension which is just plain choosing to ignore the obvious if you ask me. It's just that a headline which reads "Melo Headed To The Nets?" is a bigger attention getter than "Melo To New Jersey Still Hinges On Extension".
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Post#992 » by johnwall » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:51 am

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GameTime_3 wrote:What Melo is doing is terrible. His forcing his team's hand and yet most people aren't giving him crap for it. LeBron at least waited till he was a FREE agent to decide where he was going. Its funny, that the same fans who bash LeBron for his decision are the ones cheering Melo on.


Dude the guy has not even said anything about wanting out at all. Its the media


May not be vocal, but you can't say he isn't saying anything in this situation.


so whats ur point?
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Post#993 » by Jordan45822 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:57 am

http://twitter.com/christomasson

# Boos: “I don’t want to make a big deal out of that. People have their right to boo. People have their right to cheer. It doesn’t bother me’’ 1 minute ago via web

# ....''if they should cheer, if they should boo. I don’t take it no kind of way. It’s not personal.’’ 3 minutes ago via web

# Boos: "I take it for what it is. I don’t pay attention to it. They’re going to boo. I don’t really know if they know how to feel right now.' 3 minutes ago via web

# Melo says boos at Pepsi Center don't bother him ''It's been the same (in public) Only when I step into here in this building, I get booed' 4 minutes ago via web

# There's no chance of Melo trade by Thurs game against Miami. No way are the Nuggets sending out a rag-tag team before full house/national TV 13 minutes ago via web

# Actual final line from Melo that didn't fully fit: "You all will have another interview with me Thursday. Guaranteed. I guarantee you that.' 15 minutes ago via web

# Melo assures Tues wasn't last Nuggets game "This is not my last game. I'll be here playing against Miami Thursday... I guarantee you that.'' 16 minutes ago via web

# ...we've been doing. She hasn't had any say so on what should I do and where should go or anything like that.'' 18 minutes ago via web

# More Melo on LaLa: "It's normal. You got to consult with your family about situations like that, decision making and that's just all that... 19 minutes ago via web

# More Melo on LaLa: "But it wasn't one conversation I said where she told me, 'Let's get out of here.'' 19 minutes ago via web

# More Melo on LaLa: "She has nothing to do with that This is my career. This is my decision. Of course, I got to consult her with everything' 20 minutes ago via web

# More LaLa "It doesn't bother me but people.. they have to write about something and for them to just come up with She don't want to be here' 21 minutes ago via web

# More Melo on LaLa: "So please keep her out of it. Thank you.'' 23 minutes ago via web

# More Melo on LaLa: "Whatever is my decision she's going to support me. She has nothing to do with me staying here or me leaving or nothing.' 23 minutes ago via web

# Melo says wife LaLa Vazquez has nothing to do with what he does: "You all put this in bold words, LaLa has nothing to do with anything.'' 24 minutes ago via web
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Re: Nets Trying To Get Billups And RIP Along With Anthony 

Post#994 » by J Smitty » Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:58 am

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Jordan45822 wrote:Dude the guy has not even said anything about wanting out at all. Its the media


May not be vocal, but you can't say he isn't saying anything in this situation.


so whats ur point?



That while he hasn't demanded a trade in the media, acting like the guy is innocent and oblivious to what is going on, would be completely ignorant.
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Post#995 » by kenyu_weed » Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:16 am

lol melo threw bosh under the bus ,saying i wont do what he did, but not mention bron. hahahahaha

he just seen his peers from draft class bosh-wade-james make a power move in ball and life. he's feeling left out instead of making dvd's should a been on your game.
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Post#996 » by thamadkant » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:00 am

CoffeeJanitor wrote:This is so dumb. Melo shouldn't have any say in the situation.

Effin' NBA prima donnas.



He doesnt, you're right.

But Nuggets CANT force him to sign an extension so they can trade him to a team he doesnt want to sign with.

Nuggets had a decent offer from the Knicks, but Im not sure Knicks are so willing anymore to give up that package.
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Post#997 » by JustAwesome » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:49 am

Why give up young talent when you don't have to? Nuggets aren't the ones with leverage in this entire thing. They're the ones at risk of losing a franchise player for free.
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Post#999 » by TDevilsG » Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:52 pm

bruddahmanmatt wrote:
AllBall wrote:
bruddahmanmatt wrote:What I mean is that this trade (just like the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade) seems to have been BS from the get-go. This was nothing more than Denver attempting to create leverage to use against the Knicks. "Look at what New Jersey is willing to give us for Melo, now you do the same". This is exactly what they did with the DEN-NJN-UTA-CHA trade. Once things are supposedly close to being a done deal, they change the terms and continually stall because there is no actual deal to be made since Anthony still refuses to sign an extension with New Jersey. Denver is attempting to get New York to outbid the Nets.


So he should have reported an opinion, basically thats what you're saying. :-? :-? :-?


It doesn't take a genius to figure out that any potential trade involving Anthony still hinges on him being willing to sign an extension. Anyone with a brain would at least make it a point to highlight that fact considering that it's well-known Melo wants New York and only New York at this point. All of these "sources" were claiming "it's happening, it's close, almost there etc..." without even touching on the subject of an extension which is just plain choosing to ignore the obvious if you ask me. It's just that a headline which reads "Melo Headed To The Nets?" is a bigger attention getter than "Melo To New Jersey Still Hinges On Extension".


How is it well known Carmelo wants New York only? That was created and speculated by the media. Has Carmelo ever said he doesn't want to be a Net? Can you show me a source of evidence? Per Woj, he has told two individual teammates that he would sign an extension with the Nets. And evidently he has also pushed his reps to construct a deal that would bring with him decent players to NJ as well. Broussard's article contradict Wojs when it comes down to this. Chris believes that Melo wouldn't sign an extension, but Woj has sources claiming otherwise and Carmelo has, in fact, never stated he wouldn't sign with NJ (unlike several other teams, including Charlotte, Sixers, etc).

The problem I believe is two-fold:

1) Carmelo is ultimately undecided on where he would want to go, and keeps swaying back and forth on a daily basis.

2) Denver management is asking for more in a trade that would have already been the biggest in NBA history. The longer Denver holds out, the less they're going to get. It's game of chicken with the Knicks being the failsafe option.

And to be quite honest with all of you, I'd be glad if this trade does fall through. I'd rather the Nets keep losing this year and hopefully this time they get their #1 overall pick, as they justly deserved last year.
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Post#1000 » by corona » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:32 pm

Jordan45822 wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-anthonystoudemire011111

tampering tampering tampering.

but it the knicks, so stern will let it fly.

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