Hedo Turkoglu Appreciation Thread

[Sundamental]

If there wasn't such a thing as fatigue, I would have him handle the ball the entire game.

I understand the point but there is no reason that Turk can't handle the ball more. Currently, things are skewed to Jameer most of the time. Turk really should be the key ball handler. I'm confident SVG will move more in this direction. The offense just flows better when the ball is in Turks hands.

[tiderulz]

I wonder, any of you guys think Turk's jersey will be retired one day ? I believe if the Magic get a championship, it is very likely since the management would like to honor the team that won the first ever championship of the franchise, and i doubt there will be another player besides Dwight that can be worthy of such an honor, so the second guy on the team would have to get such a reward.

But say, the Magic can not win a championship despite trips to finals, conference finals etc, and Hedo continues to play at this level for some years and then retires as a Magic, what do you think the chance they would retire his jersey ? I am really confused about this. It looks %40-%60 to me.

i wish Armstrong hadnt of left. He could have had his jersey retired by the Magic strictly by effort and leadership he showed in some bad, bad years.

[Hilltop]

If there wasn't such a thing as fatigue, I would have him handle the ball the entire game.

I understand the point but there is no reason that Turk can't handle the ball more. Currently, things are skewed to Jameer most of the time. Turk really should be the key ball handler. I'm confident SVG will move more in this direction. The offense just flows better when the ball is in Turks hands.

Less Jameer, more Hedo. I think we can both agree on that.

[Reverse_Angle]

If there wasn't such a thing as fatigue, I would have him handle the ball the entire game.

I understand the point but there is no reason that Turk can't handle the ball more. Currently, things are skewed to Jameer most of the time. Turk really should be the key ball handler. I'm confident SVG will move more in this direction. The offense just flows better when the ball is in Turks hands.

Less Jameer, more Hedo. I think we can both agree on that.

On the other hand, Jameer has been doing OK lately. It IS against weaker point guards though. Maybe his problem is not being able to hold his own when the opposing guard is quicker and more creative.

[Sundamental]

It's not really about Jameer. It's what is best for the team. He's not really able to take advantage of his match-up whereas Turk is almost always at an advantage and is able to use it wisely.

[SubyWill]

If we win a championship (or 2 ) this year or the next.....Hedo's jersey should definitely be retired. If we don't and we still make good playoff runs, with Hedo playing as good as he has lately, it should still be retired here. Hopefully he retires a Magic!

[DHoward4Mvp]

Im not a Turk fan.. and was glad that we didnt resign him at the time..
But i do admit, he helps this team, A LOT.. he helps Howard.. the guys entry passing into Howard is superb..
I appreciate having Turk back on this team, because i was about to explode watching that bum Vince Carter one more game..
Glad to have you back Turk..

[Def Swami]

Hedo is an Orlando Magic Legend.

By the time he retires, I believe so. He shot up on my list of "Favorite Orlando Magic Players" when he came back and showed the impact we have on him and he has on the team. All hail Hedo!

[Adonis]

Hedo played like trash since since his triple double up until last night.

[MickaelPietrus]

No way Anderson+Bass is better than Rashard in 2009. Rashard in 2009 was the most clutchest guys in the league and he was beasting in the finals.

Hedo in 2009 was pure crap, I hope we get the Hedo in 2008 instead.

No, Meer is NOT better than in 2009. In 09, Jameer was beasting on everyone and put up career highs before Erick Freakin' Dampier injured him.

[turbey]

I have watched all the games in that season, yes, shard was very clutch, but shard was giving one dimension, we struggled at boston series because of boston's big size at that time. I dont know if you were at magiczone forums, but everyone was talking about rebounding problem at that time. We have two dimension with bass and anderson, play inside or out, and they are bigger than shard, also hedo is more athletic, it means we will be more reliable on rebounds.

In terms of being clutch, we have several players now, jrich, reddick (i am not talkin about his last shot at hornets:) ), meer, and of course hedo. in 2009, we had to rely on shard or hedo, but now i believe we have more options.

Hedo's season was awful in 09, there are several reasons, he was forcing the shots, play making duty was all on his shoulder, he was the ball handler at half court all the season... Other than dwight and shard, there was no one producing consistent points, so after a perfect season (07-08), he tried but was not successful in 08 season... However, in playoffs; he wasbetter compared to season; he struggled in philly series because of injury, but he was ok in lebron and boston series, and he was in good shape in the finals, i believe the best player in the finals for our team...

You say meer was better in 09, i have a respect, but dont forget, he only played 30 or 40 games, i dont remember exactly. he did not finish the season, he did not play the all eastern playoff series, but he played last year, i know what he can do, he is more experience now.

I believe, being mature and having playoff and finals experience will be the key for our success...

No way Anderson+Bass is better than Rashard in 2009. Rashard in 2009 was the most clutchest guys in the league and he was beasting in the finals.

Hedo in 2009 was pure crap, I hope we get the Hedo in 2008 instead.

No, Meer is NOT better than in 2009. In 09, Jameer was beasting on everyone and put up career highs before Erick Freakin' Dampier injured him.

[SubyWill]

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[Mad Guru]

I will second Nelson being better in 09 pre-injury, guy was straight ballin.

[Blame Turk]

Hedo played like trash since since his triple double up until last night.

More like after the Dallas game, where he had 17 assists. After that game, Hedo was used more as a spotup shooter, thanks to Jameer. I believe there might be a reason behind this change. You don't usually mess with something working. The possible reasons IMO are:

1. Hedo is 31, the coaching staff wanted to save him for the playoffs. He might not have kept up this pace until June.
2. Hedo has been the player of the game for about half of the games since his return to Orlando. Otis did not want Hedo to shine this much and become the star, so that he would look less stupid (for first not resigning him and later trading for him).
3. A trade might happen including Jameer. I see that we are trying to make him increase his stats and show his skills. This may be for increasing his trade value.
4. Dwight may have asked the team management to include his buddy more in the game (Jameer might have asked Dwight to do that)...

Whatever the reason might be, I feel team success is more important than Hedo's or Jameer's personal stats. Hedo is a proven player in terms of improving others around him. Since we decided to use Jameer as the playmaker, I hope he will also improve other players' stats as he improves his'.

[KayAllTheWaay]

Hedo has been playing inconsistent for his whole career.
He will always have some good games, then some bad ones.

[Reverse_Angle]

Hedo has been playing inconsistent for his whole career.
He will always have some good games, then some bad ones.

He will always play some good games, then some not-so-good ones. I doubt he will ever get a dunce cap for his overall bad game.

[turbey]

He was very close in one game, i think hornets game, but other players were also sucked so he saved his a**

His shot selection is much more better, so I doubt he would get 1/11, 2/13 games, we saw this type of stat a lot in 09 season... Personally, I do not care about any player shot stat, it may be a bad day, i am ok with that, the important thing is how the player do defense and his energy level, these are more important to me, as long as he tries his best at the defense, I am ok with the guy who is having a bad shot night..

Hedo has been playing inconsistent for his whole career.
He will always have some good games, then some bad ones.

He will always play some good games, then some not-so-good ones. I doubt he will ever get a dunce cap for his overall bad game.