[Camelo Thread Part 12] - Melo's list grows? pg. 50

[nykfan70]

CHandler is not allowed to hire a new agent for two weeks per league rules... not sure how long its been since he let luchey go...

It's been at least a week, since it was reported that he left his agent on Jan 20th, not sure if that was the actual date or not.

[johnnywishbone]

I don't know about that just yet. I don't see too much evidence of panic from Melo. Yeah he said he's "Screwed" and that's indicative of someone who is not too well informed, but we'll see. He was also smiling apparently.

If he was REALLY panicking, I'd have expected him to get that meeting at least SCHEDULED with the Nyets. Instead, he seemed quite RELIEVED that the Nyets backed out.

His sweating isn't exclusive to the Nets so much so as getting moved so he can get his extension. The Nets were the only destination who gave him the most immediate exit and now it appears they are no longer. Now he's yapping in the media on a daily having WWW show up in the flesh at games stroking the Bulls behind the scenes. Dude is breaking down at the thought of playing 82gms in Denver and possibly getting short changed in the short term financially....lol

I hope his dros get soiled daily as they go by and he's wearing a Nugget uniform. It will serve he and his camp just so.

I actually agree with you. Melo is beginning to show that he's a little too light in the pants to be playing this game

You're coming around I see. I don't know Melo so I'm just putting myself in the place of a twenty six year old looking at an eighty million dollar plus contract. I'm sure he is starting to feel bipolar. He could still pull a rabbit out of a hat but this is one serious negotiation. And he is going up against people like Prokhorov who probably negotiates contracts that size before he eats breakfast. Plus the advice he is getting probably sucks too.

[Knickplaya]

Ok, should be intresting.

[MaseInYourFace]

Carmelo doesn't come off to me as one of the brighter players. I mean he knows ball and is a smart player but I'm referring to more outside of the court. I suspect he is very hands off about negotiations and contracts. Some guys are a little more proactive. But here is the deal, agents are about getting themselves and their clients the biggest contract they can get. That's what it's all about for them. If players don't step in and make it absolutely clear that they want things done their way, the agent will do whatever it takes to secure the biggest contract even if its not necessarily in the best interest of their client.

[GONYK]

You're coming around I see. I don't know Melo so I'm just putting myself in the place of a twenty six year old looking at an eighty million dollar plus contract. I'm sure he is starting to feel bipolar. He could still pull a rabbit out of a hat but this is one serious negotiation. And he is going up against people like Prokhorov who probably negotiates contracts that size before he eats breakfast. Plus the advice he is getting probably sucks too.

Not so much coming around as I am getting tired of this whole thing. I don't care if he comes or doesn't come, but at this point, he needs to stop d*king around like a child. It's not so much the things that he is saying so much as the fact that he won't shut up. Keep your mouth closed and let the process unfold.

[El C3M0]

As a great chance, when I was a child I had met with Dream Team members in their hotel. Lamar, Marion, Wade and even Marbury was kind to me and paid great attention to me as there were not that amount of fans around. I was chilling with them for a short amount time but I remember Melo being a douche, he was neither looked or talked to me and he was only talking on his phone. He was like the guy who is more passive in a group of friends and not showed any social skills , the other guys were laughing and entertaining themselves and Melo was more indifferent. I also remember that Amar'e was very sympathic and humble. He asked me whether I know his name or not and since I was a little child, he was surprised and smiled that I certainly know who the hell is that dude If there is a thread about that kind of stories, I can tell my story in last year's World Championship which contains Andy Rautins and Timofey Mozgov. But in this topic, it is reasonable to STFU and GTFO now

[vallen]

Please stop quoting the Players Union as if they contacted Melo directly....It was a STORY and I quote.

"According to a source, the Players Association hopes Anthony does not make his decision based on a doomsday scenario NBA commissioner David Stern and his agents are promoting"

According to a SOURCE, The players union HOPES...............

I'll stop when this entire board throws away their opinions that are based on "sources" aka "journalist" that are NO MORE CREDIBLE. Again, if you are going to give credence to other reports. You must give credence to logical speculation as KS explained to you in this thread regarding this specific point. And that union report is as logical as it gets...

so there is 2 different kinds of Speculation and you get to decide which speculation is logical and which isnt ? Way to be hypocritical and way to fight stupidity with stupidity. right on !!

and wtf is a KS ?

[johnnywishbone]

You're coming around I see. I don't know Melo so I'm just putting myself in the place of a twenty six year old looking at an eighty million dollar plus contract. I'm sure he is starting to feel bipolar. He could still pull a rabbit out of a hat but this is one serious negotiation. And he is going up against people like Prokhorov who probably negotiates contracts that size before he eats breakfast. Plus the advice he is getting probably sucks too.

Not so much coming around as I am getting tired of this whole thing. I don't care if he comes or doesn't come, but at this point, he needs to stop d*king around like a child. It's not so much the things that he is saying so much as the fact that he won't shut up. Keep your mouth closed and let the process unfold.

If you are sick of it imagine how those guys feel!

Well on one side you have Donnie who is very experienced and says nothing. On the other side you have a young man who is wearing his heart on his sleeve. That's kind of what I expected to happen.

My guess is that since Denver wants what New Jersey has to offer and vice versa and since New Jersey can offer Melo most of what he wants (the contract and moving to the East) he will ultimately go there. New Jersey just wants to make sure that Denver doesn't salt their opportunity to get CP3 by saddling them with bad contracts i.e. Al Harrington. So Prok walked out as a negotiating technique because he knows in the end Denver will have to live with it and he knows that the cap space to recruit CP3 will be a key enticement to getting Melo to want to come.

Personally, I'd rather see us go after pieces we need then go star hunting. We've got our big gun now we just need to surround him with quality pieces - which we mostly have.

[Knickplaya]

Im worried Melo will sign an extension with a diff team.

[soby22]

Im worried Melo will sign an extension with a diff team.

shutup ...he wont

[GONYK]

If you are sick of it imagine how those guys feel!

Well on one side you have Donnie who is very experienced and says nothing. On the other side you have a young man who is wearing his heart on his sleeve. That's kind of what I expected to happen.

My guess is that since Denver wants what New Jersey has to offer and vice versa and since New Jersey can offer Melo most of what he wants (the contract and moving to the East) he will ultimately go there. New Jersey just wants to make sure that Denver doesn't salt their opportunity to get CP3 by saddling them with bad contracts i.e. Al Harrington. So Prok walked out as a negotiating technique because he knows in the end Denver will have to live with it and he knows that the cap space to recruit CP3 will be a key enticement to getting Melo to want to come.

Personally, I'd rather see us go after pieces we need then go star hunting. We've got our big gun now we just need to surround him with quality pieces - which we mostly have.

I'm still positive he won't sign with NJ.

I just don't like what this process is revealing about his character. Like I said before, I'm not worried about not getting him. I'm just annoyed by him.

[Context]

Please stop quoting the Players Union as if they contacted Melo directly....It was a STORY and I quote.

"According to a source, the Players Association hopes Anthony does not make his decision based on a doomsday scenario NBA commissioner David Stern and his agents are promoting"

According to a SOURCE, The players union HOPES...............

I'll stop when this entire board throws away their opinions that are based on "sources" aka "journalist" that are NO MORE CREDIBLE. Again, if you are going to give credence to other reports. You must give credence to logical speculation as KG(Knicksgod) explained to you in this thread regarding this specific point. And that union report is as logical as it gets...

so there is 2 different kinds of Speculation and you get to decide which speculation is logical and which isnt ? Way to be hypocritical and way to fight stupidity with stupidity. right on !!

and wtf is a KS ?

Before I respond I want to make sure we're talking about the same thing. What are YOU referring to when you talk about two different types of speculation?

And I meant KG not KS my mistake - I was referring to Knicksgod...

[vallen]

If you are sick of it imagine how those guys feel!

Well on one side you have Donnie who is very experienced and says nothing. On the other side you have a young man who is wearing his heart on his sleeve. That's kind of what I expected to happen.

My guess is that since Denver wants what New Jersey has to offer and vice versa and since New Jersey can offer Melo most of what he wants (the contract and moving to the East) he will ultimately go there. New Jersey just wants to make sure that Denver doesn't salt their opportunity to get CP3 by saddling them with bad contracts i.e. Al Harrington. So Prok walked out as a negotiating technique because he knows in the end Denver will have to live with it and he knows that the cap space to recruit CP3 will be a key enticement to getting Melo to want to come.

Personally, I'd rather see us go after pieces we need then go star hunting. We've got our big gun now we just need to surround him with quality pieces - which we mostly have.

I'm still positive he won't sign with NJ.

I just don't like what this process is revealing about his character. Like I said before, I'm not worried about not getting him. I'm just annoyed by him.

what is he doing exactly ? all i see is DEN trying to Ice him, and the Media constantly trying to bait him into things he cant say. Meanwhile his sister just died, hes got a job to do, and a family to care for. He seems to be just as frustrated as you are. IDK about his character, but I personally cant judge it based on this process, that leaves him pretty much handcuffed.

[Context]

I'm still positive he won't sign with NJ.

I just don't like what this process is revealing about his character. Like I said before, I'm not worried about not getting him. I'm just annoyed by him.

I think there is one more element that is being overlooked here. I'll call it the "Denver FO and Melo element". Unlike Lebron, Melo is trying to help/work with Denver so they can get something of value for him. Or, at least, survey the landscape to see if it would be beneficial for them to trade him. IMO, it's the reason Melo has not come out and said CLEARLY that he wants to be traded to the Knicks -ONLY. My guess is there is some sort of understanding between both parties. This is why I believe it's premature to take everything that he says or does during this process as a reflection of reality.

[GONYK]

what is he doing exactly ? all i see is DEN trying to Ice him, and the Media constantly trying to bait him into things he cant say. Meanwhile his sister just died, hes got a job to do, and a family to care for. He seems to be just as frustrated as you are. IDK about his character, but I personally cant judge it based on this process, that leaves him pretty much handcuffed.

Maybe you are right. Admittedly, I have not been following this Melo situation as closely since NJ dropped out, so maybe I am not getting the full context of what he is actually saying. All I know is that it seems he keeps bringing up his money.

All I wish he would do is stop talking.

[Context]

All I wish he would do is stop talking.

In theory one would think that that would be the prudent thing to do and I would agree. However, on the flip side his "talking" could represent a perception that he wants created for whatever reason. Again, I think Melo is smarter than some give him credit for... Regardless, I think the "talking" (as appose) to a "no comment" represents part of some sort of strategy. I don't believe for one second that it's just Melo speaking from the heart entirely. It's a percentage of truths and Lies.

[vallen]

what is he doing exactly ? all i see is DEN trying to Ice him, and the Media constantly trying to bait him into things he cant say. Meanwhile his sister just died, hes got a job to do, and a family to care for. He seems to be just as frustrated as you are. IDK about his character, but I personally cant judge it based on this process, that leaves him pretty much handcuffed.

Maybe you are right. Admittedly, I have not been following this Melo situation as closely since NJ dropped out, so maybe I am not getting the full context of what he is actually saying. All I know is that it seems he keeps bringing up his money.

All I wish he would do is stop talking.

Well I can understand that, a lot of people are going to dissapointed if he actually takes that extension with anybody but us. and even if its with us people are going be upset we traded for him. but ive always felt he was going to have his extension with or without the knicks. but im still hoping its with us and still think we got a hell of a shot.

[NYKBaller23]

This is reality my friends , if melo wants NY. All he has to say is , Trade me to NY. If he is hoping we some how pull of a deal without his help . Than Melo sorry but you got to go. Right now i would go after Mayo his vaule a ALL TIME LOW he just got suspended. Bring in Mayo and Camby and call it a day.

[Knickplaya]

I don't buy the extension crap.

I think he is stressing the importance of it, so that he does not look like a bad guy for trying to run out of town before his contracts up.

How much money does Melo need? His wife aint poor either.

Even if Melo tore his knee tomorrow, someone would give him a MAX deal, no question about it. I don't believe the CBA will be so different that he will make so much less.

If he is a FA, and he wants the Knicks to sign him with the bird rights, the Nuggets will do it so they can get an asset, because he will say I am going to the Knicks, it's where I want to be-- I will do you guys a favor and accept a sign and trade to them so at least you can get something for me, and he will get all the money poss.

He has already said though, that winning is more important. If he really wants to team with STAT, then he won't be changing his mind at the last minute, just because Denver is trying to pull whatever they are trying to pull. It is encouraging that they are talking to us, and that they like AR. But we'll see, I am just hoping a lot of what's been said by Melo recentley is just him playing the game, or trying to be neutral.

[HighRyzer83]

As long as Melo wants to sign with NY, Walsh has all the cards. As time draws near, as expected, the nugs are knocking on the door "interested" in AR, contracting and admitting their own bluff. Before long the nuggets will be pounding on that door. If Walsh was a true gangsta he will ignore them all the way to the end of season, and save himself the extension price.

Hold firm Walsh.