Arenas Traded for Rashard Lewis

[Dat2U]

This thread is going to make for a funny bump down the road.

Hopefully the same can be said for your time on this board.

[tontoz]

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[Ruzious]

Leonsis saved a little money...........that is all at this point.

We're 0-25 on the road, Orlando has been dominant since their trades. Thus far, Orlando fans have reaped real world benefits. We've received nothing but 25 straight losses on the road, regardless of who is on the roster.

Debating the players involved at this point seems silly. Arenas has been horrible in Orlando aside from two games, Lewis has given nothing in terms of veteran leadership or clutch shooting to our squad. You could argue his empty stats look pretty at times in comparison, but they haven't resulted in us becoming a better team.

We're fast approaching the worst away record of all time..........meanwhile many are gloating over dumping our former franchise player as we head to the worst possible realm of immortality. To each their own I guess. Enjoy your half full glasses.

Really? Who's gloating over anything? Who's happy the team stinks? Just because some don't whine about the Arenas trade doesn't mean there's not a ton of frustration.

[AceDegenerate]

Really? Who's gloating over anything? Who's happy the team stinks? Just because some don't whine about the Arenas trade doesn't mean there's not a ton of frustration.

I would say Tontoz, TGW, and maybe a couple others are clearly gloating. Nobody claimed you were gloating, however you definitely seem to enjoy taking up the fight for others lately.

[Ruzious]

Really? Who's gloating over anything? Who's happy the team stinks? Just because some don't whine about the Arenas trade doesn't mean there's not a ton of frustration.

I would say Tontoz, TGW, and maybe a couple others are clearly gloating. Nobody claimed you were gloating, however you definitely seem to enjoy taking up the fight for others lately.

You mean like you just did?

[TGW]

Really? Who's gloating over anything? Who's happy the team stinks? Just because some don't whine about the Arenas trade doesn't mean there's not a ton of frustration.

Right...and quite frankly the whole "who cares who won the trade...the Wizards still suck" stance is so weak and lame. If Arenas were even showing even a glimmer of being back to his old self, the Arenas chearleader convention would be on their collective high-horses, proclaiming how the Wizards got duped. Well Orlando got duped. And W's-L's mean nothing in respect to the trade, because nothing short of getting Dwight Howard in return would have turned this sorry team around.

PS And Arenas is done. Orlando isn't winning a championship either -- they aren't going to even get to the conference finals. Boston is going to knock them out again, and Orlando fans will be spending this time next year trying to figure out ways to trade Arenas and Turkoglue.

[AceDegenerate]

Really? Who's gloating over anything? Who's happy the team stinks? Just because some don't whine about the Arenas trade doesn't mean there's not a ton of frustration.

I would say Tontoz, TGW, and maybe a couple others are clearly gloating. Nobody claimed you were gloating, however you definitely seem to enjoy taking up the fight for others lately.

You mean like you just did?

I guess irony is lost on Bucks fans.

How about that John Brockman huh?

[Ruzious]

I would say Tontoz, TGW, and maybe a couple others are clearly gloating. Nobody claimed you were gloating, however you definitely seem to enjoy taking up the fight for others lately.

You mean like you just did?

I guess irony is lost on Bucks fans.

How about that John Brockman huh?

Well looky here. Our AceD is a Bucks fan. Who'dathought... or cared?

[AceDegenerate]

Well looky here. Our AceD is a Bucks fan. Who'dathought... or cared?

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/v ... 8T0382eawl

[Ruzious]

Well looky here. Our AceD is a Bucks fan. Who'dathought... or cared?

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/v ... 8T0382eawl

And you know what they say - As Jon Brockman goes, so go the Bucks... not to mention a herd of goats.

[JonathanJoseph]

Rashard on Wizards: 1) Shorter contract; 2) less overall money; 3) plays more of a position of need; 4) not forced to play out of position; 5) no position competition with young future star; 6) no perception of bad influence on younger players; 7) no bad blood with team; 8) no reputation as head case; 9) solid veteran influence; 10) no significant injury history; 11) likely more easily traded, and at an earlier date

Arenas on Wizards: 1) Longer contract; 2) more overall money; 3) with Wall and Young, Arenas' skills not addressing position of greatest need; 4) forced to play out of position; 5) position competition with Wall; 6) perception of bad influence on younger players; 7) bad blood with team; 8) reputation as head case; 9) significant injury history; 10) may actually be the hardest to trade contract in the league now; and 11) it seems to me like he really wanted out of DC.

...EDIT PS: Dandridge managed to say it in fewer words. Maybe I should have just done a +1

I wouldn't sweat it, we're 60 pages in and your list might be the best synopsis yet.

Except, as I've tried to point out repeatedly, there lies the possibility of taking what's behind door number 3, which is any other trade that would have become available.

And a number of your points are extremely debatable or wrong.

[JonathanJoseph]

Leonsis saved a little money...........that is all at this point.

We're 0-25 on the road, Orlando has been dominant since their trades. Thus far, Orlando fans have reaped real world benefits. We've received nothing but 25 straight losses on the road, regardless of who is on the roster.

Debating the players involved at this point seems silly. Arenas has been horrible in Orlando aside from two games, Lewis has given nothing in terms of veteran leadership or clutch shooting to our squad. You could argue his empty stats look pretty at times in comparison, but they haven't resulted in us becoming a better team.

We're fast approaching the worst away record of all time..........meanwhile many are gloating over dumping our former franchise player as we head to the worst possible realm of immortality. To each their own I guess. Enjoy your half full glasses.

+1

All that's worth debating at this point was whether the trigger was pulled too early.

[montestewart]

And a number of your points are extremely debatable or wrong.

Really? Which ones?











(60 more pages)

Oh yeah?

Yeah!

[Rafael122]

I'm gonna have to listen to this interview with Mike Wise w/Gilbert. Based on the tweets, the man sounds like he's lost it.

[GhostsOfGil]

I'm gonna have to listen to this interview with Mike Wise w/Gilbert. Based on the tweets, the man sounds like he's lost it.

from mike lees twit

MrMichaelLee Michael Lee
Gilbert Arenas to Mike Wise: "Maybe I wasn't worth the contract. Hey, I don't think anyone's worth $100 million if Michael Jordan wasn't."

[GhostsOfGil]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/2/3/19 ... ing-streak

There is precedent for this type of bizarre split, by the way. Those 1990-91 Kings, they who lost 37 straight road games, and finished 1-40 away from Sacramento? That team (coached by Dick Motta, who led Washington to its only NBA title) was 24-17 at home, and like these Wizards saw a massive degradation in defensive performance when setting out on the road. Were I a Wizards fan, given the infamy those Kings reached in terms of road futility, I'd be rather fearful of the teams' similarities.

ops sorry posted this in the wrong thread. interesting read nonetheless from mike lees twitter

[DCZards]

Except, as I've tried to point out repeatedly, there lies the possibility of taking what's behind door number 3, which is any other trade that would have become available.

And a number of your points are extremely debatable or wrong.

Door number 3? Do you really think there was going to be a door number 3? EG was wise to move quickly on the trade with Orlando and not wait around "hoping" that a better trade was around the corner. I seriously doubt that it was.

I'm a Gil fan and would have LOVED to see him and Wall tear it up together. I, maybe foolishly, envisioned Gil and Wall forming one of the top backcourts in the NBA.

But now I have to give Ernie G. props for the trade because I believe, for reasons others have pointed out, it favors the Zards in several ways. Plus, Gil more and more appears to be washed up, while Lewis, if the Zards are looking to trade him, probably holds considerable appeal to some playoff-bound teams, which could reap the Zards cap space, young talent, a decent draft pick---or all three.

[Kanyewest]

I wonder if Arenas success or at least at the end of the 2008 season- was the result of EJ's offense which allowed him to chuck up 3s. Or maybe Arenas's demise was the result of Flip's offense. Either way, Arenas is happy that he got out of DC with the negative microscope that he was under. Hopefully it works out for him eventually in Orlando. Yeah, I don't see Orlando winning a championship this year but maybe a few years down the line when age catches up to the Lakers and Celtics (of course, Chicago and Miami look like they'll be tough teams to beat too).

[Kanyewest]

On second thought, Arenas wasn't that good in 2008 aside from a few playoff games against the Cavs. Injuries had a lot to do with his demise although one would figure that he would still retain some of his shooting touch.