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Post#1401 » by Jetset » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:09 pm

AI-in-LA wrote:I actually do see the Lakers adding BOTH Howard and D-Willat next year's trade deadline ... however it looks like it will be after watching the Celtics hoist the title this year which sucks!

I see the Lakers trading Pau, Ebanks, #1 and cash to the Magic for Dwight (and maybe Chris Duhon).

I also see the Lakers trading Bynum, Blake, Caracter, #2 and cash to the Jazz for D-Will (and maybe Raja Bell)

The Lakers lineup would look as follows:

PG: Deron-Fisher-Duhon
SG: Kobe-Bell
SF: Artest-Walton
PF: Odom-Smith
C: Dwight-Ratliff

The above is a title winning lineup, though I also see the Lakers adding some vets (Kwame, T-Mac, Reggie Evans ... guys like that) and a decent 2nd round pick (Lacedarius Dunn would be great)

If we HAVE TO LOSE THIS YEAR to get that lineup next year, that is okay by me, but if I were Mitch I would trade Bynum and the t.p.e. for Melo and Chris Andersen as I think they could win a title with Melo this year ... and then trade Melo to the Kicks in a 3 way deal to land us either Dwight, D-Will or CP3 next year.

You're high. That is all.


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Post#1402 » by Penberthy » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:52 pm

So you guys think we have no chance at Dwight or Deron?

I dont understand where the holier-than-thou attitude is coming from.

I mean its not like we havent gotten the leagues best center out of orlando before.
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Post#1403 » by Wavy Q » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:00 pm

we dont have a chance lol.
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Post#1404 » by Jetset » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:06 pm

Penberthy wrote:So you guys think we have no chance at Dwight or Deron?

I dont understand where the holier-than-thou attitude is coming from.

I mean its not like we havent gotten the leagues best center out of orlando before.

Holier-than-thou? What are you going on about?
Maybe you didn't read what the guy posted. He said that we trade for Melo, win a title, then trade Melo to the Knicks. If you even think that is somewhat of a good idea like that guy, you're high too. The only way I see us getting another star other than Dwight is if we lose this season and during the offseason either Paul or Deron demands a trade. And who even knows if we get Dwight, teams like CHI and OKC honestly have a better chance at getting him than we do.
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Post#1405 » by semi-sentient » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:09 pm

Penberthy wrote:So you guys think we have no chance at Dwight or Deron?

I dont understand where the holier-than-thou attitude is coming from.

I mean its not like we havent gotten the leagues best center out of orlando before.


We don't have a realistic chance until Dwight Howard starts threatening to not pick up his player option in 2012/13, and that won't happen until May at the earliest -- which is when the Magic will get bounced out of the playoffs again and it'll start becoming abundantly clear that he's wasting his prime in Orlando. Once he does that then things start looking favorable for us because Orlando will not want to lose him to FA, and the next best thing (that's available) would be Bynum.

That's assuming that Jim Buss will even consider trading Bynum, which so far he hasn't.
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Post#1406 » by hoops_32 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:21 am

What do you guys think about John Salmons? I think he would be a great fit for us. I also think Kirk Hinrich would help us a lot especially defensively.
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Post#1407 » by Jetset » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:04 am

Washington wants too much for Hinrich, Salmons is 31 and has a 5 yr. 39 mil contract. This team is already old enough, no need to add more age that we'll be stuck with.
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Post#1408 » by MagicFan32 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:26 am

There is no chance in hell of the Magic trading you Dwight Howard the new CBA is going to leave teams with almost no cap space, sorry guys Jerry West isn't going to be in our front office to hand you our
franchise player for an injury prone airhead like Bynum

Penberthy wrote:So you guys think we have no chance at Dwight or Deron?

I dont understand where the holier-than-thou attitude is coming from.

I mean its not like we havent gotten the leagues best center out of orlando before.

Salary cap wasn't around back then, and the next CBA will be much stricter. The only reason Miami was able to do what they did was CAP SPACE, Lakers will not be able to clear a max salary slot under the new guidelines
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I think if you put McGee back then, he would get those blocks just as easily as Russell did. Russell's athleticism was well ahead of the players of his time, and that's about it.
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Post#1409 » by DubaLakers » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:38 am

Defcon 5: Is this possible, if it is I think it's the time to do it, why the F not ?!

We got the Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, Heat, Bulls, Orlando, and the avs, a 1/7 shot at the 'chip. 14% shot to win the 'chip assuming all teams are equal, which their obviously not. Brain froze up, math session over.

We get Barnes back soon, and PJax thinks that should be a nice boost, because he can bring the speed up of the starters and the reserve units as Matt can run with both.

Let's assume Mitch is thinking hat's not going to be close to enough, and he starts thinking worse thoughts than we are, and he's chewed all his nails down to the nubs and goes all in, would this be possible?

Trade Bynum straight up for Carmelo, pick up another DJ Mbenga type dude off waivers for another warm big. Play the season, prey we win the 'chip, and then let 'Melo walk for nothing to NYC.

All the sudden we have big cap room, we'd be dead for a season and then go get D12 when he's a free agent after next season.

I'm sure Brian Shaw didn't work out and we'd go get retread Byron Scott or Kurt Rambis to save the ship with Kobe, D12, and some other guys. I'm assuming Lamar or Pau is gone at that point.
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Post#1410 » by MagicFan32 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:01 am

Why would Denver trade Melo for Bynum when their Center Nene is better than Bynum?
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Post#1411 » by crimsonkb24 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:25 am

why don't you leave to the magic forum ?
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Post#1412 » by semi-sentient » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:35 pm

DubaLakers wrote:Trade Bynum straight up for Carmelo, pick up another DJ Mbenga type dude off waivers for another warm big. Play the season, prey we win the 'chip, and then let 'Melo walk for nothing to NYC.


Why not throw in Odom and see if we can't get Nene as well?

Last I heard Nene was not exactly a happy camper and that he was looking to opt out of his contract to go elsewhere. I doubt that the Nuggets want to lose either guy for nothing, and if neither Bynum or Odom pan out then they can choose to not pick on their team options. If they pick up Chauncie's option next year and don't pick up Bynum and Odom's, they essentially shed ~$39 million in salary and suddenly have the means to sign both CP3 and Dwight Howard to max contracts if they both opt out.

DubaLakers wrote:All the sudden we have big cap room, we'd be dead for a season and then go get D12 when he's a free agent after next season.


We are never going to have cap room with Kobe and Pau on the books. Even with only 4 players on the books in 2012/13 (Kobe, Pau, Artest, Blake) we are looing at >$61 million in salaries, with Kobe and Pau combining for about $50 million. There's no easy way to get rid of Pau either. His contract is huge and he's on the decline, so no one is going to take on the remainder of his contract after this season.
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Post#1413 » by The_Trade_Seer » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:54 pm

Ummmm ... we won't need a max salary slot to get Dwight or even Dwight and Deron ... we won't need any cap space at all because we have the appropriate high salaries to match up in a trade!

Trading Pau, Ebanks and picks for Dwight is extremely realistic and we will actually be giving up more salary than we are taking back

Trading Bynum, Caracter and picks for D-Will is also extyremely realistic and will easily work with the new CBA.

I may be high but at least say I'm "high again" as I also called the Pau trade for Kwame before it happened!!!!!!!!!!!

Both Dwight and D-Will will be traded at next year's deadline as the Magic and Jazz brass aren't idiots like the Cavs brass are ... they will see the difference between getting NOTHING for Lebron and getting a ton for Carmelo and will follow in Denver's footsteps.

Dwight will play for the Knicks or Lakers but if the Knicks land Melo they won't be able to get him and even if they don't land Melo the best they would be able to offer is a garbage package of Felton (useless to the Magic with Nelson and Arenas on board already), Gallinari (redundant with Hedo on board) and Chandler (nothing special with Redick, Hedo and Arenas on board). If the Lakers swoop in with a Pau offer, Orlando will take it in a heartbeat and actually might be better ... they will be built to win now and Pau's passing ability out of double teams will be magic to Orlando's shooters ears.

Deron Williams may be okay playing for the Mavs along with the Knicks or Lakers ... the Mavs have nothing but garbage to offer the Jazz while the Knicks could offer the same trade as above which isn't bad as Felton would mean much more to the Jazz than the Magic, however if melo is in NY they are out of the sweepstakes anyways ... the Lakers offering Bynum, Caracter and picks for D-Will will work perfectly and will give the the Jazz a good young team to build around with a killer front court of Bynum, Jefferson and Millsap.
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Post#1414 » by The_Trade_Seer » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:59 pm

Realistic 3-Team Melo Trade:

LAKERS TRADE: Bynum, Artest, Caracter, eBanks and #2
LAKERS RECEIVE: Melo and Andris Biedrins

NUGGETS TRADE: Melo and Nene
NUGGETS RECEIVE: Bynum and Monta Ellis

WARRIORS TRADE: Monta Ellis and Beidrins
WARRIORS RECEIVE: Nene, Artest, Caracter, eBanks and #2

The only thing holding back Mitch from pulling the trigger on a Bynum for Melo trade is that he's scared not to get a center in return and Biedrins definitely fits the bill there.
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Post#1415 » by CX44 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:03 pm

AI-in-LA wrote:Realistic 3-Team Melo Trade:

LAKERS TRADE: Bynum, Artest, Caracter, eBanks and #2
LAKERS RECEIVE: Melo and Andris Biedrins

NUGGETS TRADE: Melo and Nene
NUGGETS RECEIVE: Bynum and Monta Ellis

WARRIORS TRADE: Monta Ellis and Beidrins
WARRIORS RECEIVE: Nene, Artest, Caracter, eBanks and #2

The only thing holding back Mitch from pulling the trigger on a Bynum for Melo trade is that he's scared not to get a center in return and Biedrins definitely fits the bill there.


Thats accutally a pretty damn good trade for all the parties involved. Nuggets could then swing Billups to another team if they wanted.
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Post#1416 » by Slava » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:26 pm

Except Warriors wouldn't touch that deal.
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Post#1417 » by DubaLakers » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:59 pm

Man I've always had a huge jealousy of other teams having these amazing stud point guards I want one in LA so bad, but man the thought of D12 coming here is overwhelming that thought.
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Post#1418 » by The Skyhook » Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:48 am

If Mitch found a way to get one of either Daniel Gibson, Anthony Parker, or Arron Afflalo before the deadline I would be more than happy.
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Post#1419 » by larry14r » Sun Feb 20, 2011 7:22 am

The Skyhook wrote:If Mitch found a way to get one of either Daniel Gibson, Anthony Parker, or Arron Afflalo before the deadline I would be more than happy.


I think Parker will be the easiest of the three to get.
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Post#1420 » by jerkslo » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:07 pm

I've been thinking this for a while, and the All-Star weekend reminded me...

What about sending Bynum to Washington for McGee and Hirich?

Yes, AB is far superior to McGee, but McGee is no slouch, and has huge upside. I'm not a huge stats guy as a judge of talent, but their status are virtually identical for the same minutes. Granted, McGee's stats should be better since he's on a horrible team, but...

Hinrich is an obvious upgrade at PG, and has had success guarding bigger 2 guards, like Wade and Allen.

Thoughts?

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