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Post#21 » by mkwest » Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:56 am

The Melo-Drama is finally over!!!! :clap: :clap:

Knicks get: Carmelo Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Athony Carter & Renaldo Balkman.

Nuggets get: Raymond Felton, Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, 2014 First Round Draft Pick, 2012 Warriors 2nd Round Pick, 2013 Warriors 2nd Round Pick & $3M.

Wolves get: Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry

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Denver, Dallas and New Jersey are rumored to be involved in a deal where Mozgov and Gallinari end up New Jersey and Harris ends up back in Dallas.

Now that the main deal has taken place, there could very well be a domino effect of other deals heading into Thursday's trade deadline.
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Post#22 » by mkwest » Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:22 am

If Gallinari lands in Denver, the Nets will not be the only ones pursuing him. The Los Angeles Clippers are also prepared to trade a first-round pick for Gallinari, according two people involved in the discussion.

The Nuggets are open to flipping the 22-year-old Gallinari in a second deal because team officials disagree about his potential. There is also a split in the front office about which trade proposal is stronger — the Nets’ or the Knicks’.

Howard Beck, NY Times


I'd give up a protected pick for Gallo, but not an unprotected pick. One downside to acquiring Gallo is that he'll be up for an extension this summer too. If no deal is done, then he'll be restricted in 2012. I don't know what the Clippers' long-term plans are, and if they plan to go after a big name free-agent in 2012. Having Gallo could help or hurt that plan. I think that he would be a nice fit and totally fit in with our "G-Men."

These next few days will be interesting.
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Post#23 » by Det the Threat » Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:42 am

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If Gallinari lands in Denver, the Nets will not be the only ones pursuing him. The Los Angeles Clippers are also prepared to trade a first-round pick for Gallinari, according two people involved in the discussion.

The Nuggets are open to flipping the 22-year-old Gallinari in a second deal because team officials disagree about his potential. There is also a split in the front office about which trade proposal is stronger — the Nets’ or the Knicks’.

Howard Beck, NY Times


I'd give up a protected pick for Gallo, but not an unprotected pick. One downside to acquiring Gallo is that he'll be up for an extension this summer too. If no deal is done, then he'll be restricted in 2012. I don't know what the Clippers' long-term plans are, and if they plan to go after a big name free-agent in 2012. Having Gallo could help or hurt that plan. I think that he would be a nice fit and totally fit in with our "G-Men."

These next few days will be interesting.


It depends on which pick we're talking about.

If it's our own pick this year, then I wouldn't mind it being unprotected, because it would be hard to find a better fit and player overall with that pick. And it's most likely going to be in that 7 - 10 range anyways, were we certainly wouldn't find a player with Gallo's talents.

And as far as 2012 free agents goes, I doubt Paul or Williams would leave just in free agency, which means having a trade chip like Baron's expiring would be needed anyways to get someone like that.
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Post#24 » by mkwest » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:45 am

Det the Threat wrote:It depends on which pick we're talking about.

If it's our own pick this year, then I wouldn't mind it being unprotected, because it would be hard to find a better fit and player overall with that pick. And it's most likely going to be in that 7 - 10 range anyways, were we certainly wouldn't find a player with Gallo's talents.

And as far as 2012 free agents goes, I doubt Paul or Williams would leave just in free agency, which means having a trade chip like Baron's expiring would be needed anyways to get someone like that.


When I said protected, I'm really only talking top 3. I'd have a tough time giving up that. If we didn't win a top 3 spot, then I don't really have any qualms about giving up the pick.

The free-agents can all opt out. If they want the extra year and higher raises (via S&T), I doubt the receiving team would want Baron and his $14.75M contract. BTW $2.5M of his last season is unguaranteed, which is odd, but interesting and I had no clue. I have no idea what kind of salary we will add between now and then, which is what makes everything tricky. Kaman, Foye and Cook will be coming off of the books, and Gomes will become an expiring along with BD of course. We'll have our 2011 pick/player, the Minnesota pick/player, Bledsoe, Aminu & Warren as sweeteners. I think that we could clear salary (e.g. Gomes) if we needed to by shipping him along with one of those pieces to a team with enough cap to absorb the salary hit. Then we'd still have a lot left over to offer a decent trade proposal to the team of the free-agent.

If a Melo situation occurs where their team seeks to trade them before they hit free-agency, then it becomes a bit more difficult as seen with the "Melodrama."
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Post#25 » by Det the Threat » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:54 am

mkwest wrote:When I said protected, I'm really only talking top 3. I'd have a tough time giving up that. If we didn't win a top 3 spot, then I don't really have any qualms about giving up the pick.


Yeah, top 2 or 3 protection wouldn't be bad, as we could win the lottery again.

Still, I think Olshey would protect it some and I don't think it would be that big of a problem for the Nuggets, who'd receive a solid asset for Gallinari.

mkwest wrote:The free-agents can all opt out. If they want the extra year and higher raises (via S&T), I doubt the receiving team would want Baron and his $14.75M contract. BTW $2.5M of his last season is unguaranteed, which is odd, but interesting and I had no clue. I have no idea what kind of salary we will add between now and then, which is what makes everything tricky. Kaman, Foye and Cook will be coming off of the books, and Gomes will become an expiring along with BD of course. We'll have our 2011 pick/player, the Minnesota pick/player, Bledsoe, Aminu & Warren as sweeteners. I think that we could clear salary (e.g. Gomes) if we needed to by shipping him along with one of those pieces to a team with enough cap to absorb the salary hit. Then we'd still have a lot left over to offer a decent trade proposal to the team of the free-agent.

If a Melo situation occurs where their team seeks to trade them before they hit free-agency, then it becomes a bit more difficult as seen with the "Melodrama."


That news on Baron's contract could be very important, especially with the new CBA that's probably going to force teams to look more at their salaries.

Looking at those expirings going into next season we could be a player starting this summer and going through next years deadline, if the new CBA's been worked out by then.
I think thanks to that(and this Gallinari rumor) we'll hold onto Kaman for now and look to deal him starting at this years draft.
By then he can show that he's back and healthy, while also being in the final year of his contract, which is easier to swallow finacnial wise for other teams.

Anyways, it should be interesting what kind of moves Olshey makes next.
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Post#26 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:06 pm

I know I'm late on this, but I'm glad that Melo was finally traded.
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Post#27 » by mkwest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:40 am

Det the Threat wrote:That news on Baron's contract could be very important, especially with the new CBA that's probably going to force teams to look more at their salaries.

Looking at those expirings going into next season we could be a player starting this summer and going through next years deadline, if the new CBA's been worked out by then.
I think thanks to that(and this Gallinari rumor) we'll hold onto Kaman for now and look to deal him starting at this years draft.
By then he can show that he's back and healthy, while also being in the final year of his contract, which is easier to swallow finacnial wise for other teams.

Anyways, it should be interesting what kind of moves Olshey makes next.


Since, the the Gallinari rumor has kind of dried up, I don't really see us making a significant move by the deadline. Butler may be traded or bought out, but aside from that, it doesn't look like we'll be active.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Olshey does with the draft. I still think that he did a decent job last year and I'm hoping that he can replicate that this year. We're going to be looking at a similar 1st round position and have the opportunity for a high 2nd and mid 2nd rounder. If he plays his cards right, then it's just more pieces that can be moved at a later time. I really do like Chris, but it's time to try to get the best value that we can get out of him. Give him a couple months to get back into game shape and move him sometime between the draft and the trading deadline.
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Post#28 » by mkwest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:46 am

Carl Landry was traded from the Kings to the Hornets for Marcus Thornton and Davd Andersen.


I like it for the Hornets. They get a scorer on the bench who can come in for West and not miss too much of a beat. He's going to be happy because he's going from the outhouse to the penthouse. Playing with Paul is going to be great for him.

For the Kings, they get a nice young prospect in Thornton and a decent player in Andersen. Thornton could see time with Evans, but I think that they still need to look for that primary point guard that can knock down outside shots and complement Evans in the starting line-up.
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Post#29 » by Forte IV » Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:32 pm

Deron Williams traded to the Nets for Harris, favors, and a couple picks.
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Post#30 » by SportsFan215 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:57 pm

SuperNova854 wrote:Deron Williams traded to the Nets for Harris, favors, and a couple picks.


I was so shocked to hear this news. We could have acquired him if we really wanted to.
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Post#31 » by mkwest » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:22 pm

It was insane to read the headline that Deron was headed to the Nets. They got a better player for less than the Knicks gave up for Melo. That's got to sting for Knick fans. There have been a lot of rumors regarding Dolan and Isiah linking back up and Walsh moving out. I hope that isn't true for their fans' sake.


What is Utah doing? They lose their HOF coach and their franchise player in about 2 weeks' time? They knew that he was going to have to be traded at some point before the next trading deadline, but just out of the blue like this? This was shocking. He's pissed, but he's going to have to be there for another year and a half.
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Post#32 » by mkwest » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:57 pm

Boston has agreed to send Kendrick Perkins to OKC for package that includes Jeff Green, sources tell Y!

Adrian Wojnarowski via Twitter


Kendrick Perkins & Nate Robinson for Jeff Green, Nenad Krstic and 2012 Clippers 1st.


Both players are looking for new contracts this summer. Boston re-acquires their 2007 draft selection. It fills a need for OKC and gives Boston some wing depth. They have some center depth, but those guys have to remain healthy for the playoff run. I like it much better for OKC. Boston has a bunch of old injury-prone guys and Erden as bigs. Krstic is decent on the offensive end, but Perkins' defense will be sorely missed.
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Post#33 » by mkwest » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:02 pm

Houston has traded Shane Battier to Memphis for Thabeet and a first-round pick, source tells Y!

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Post#34 » by mkwest » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:18 pm

Aaron Brooks is headed to Phoenix. Gerald Wallace to Portland. Don't know the full details for either trade yet.
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Post#35 » by mkwest » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:21 pm

OKC also traded Mo Pete and DJ White for Nazr Mohammed.
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Post#36 » by mkwest » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:25 pm

Dragic & 1st for Brooks.
Pryzbilla and 2nd for Wallace :nonono:
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Post#37 » by mkwest » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:40 pm

Przybilla, Cunningham and 2 firsts for Wallace.

That makes me feel a little better.

Erdan and Harangody from Boston to Cleveland for a 2nd round pick.

Possibly OJ Mayo and a 1st to Indiana for Josh McRobets. I wouldn't mind this, since maybe Indiana could take their sights off of EJ. Rumors are going around that it didn't make the deadline.
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Post#38 » by mkwest » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:03 pm

OJ Mayo will stay in Memphis. The deal came after the deadline had passed. The league typically allows team to finalize deals after the deadline if they have been given word that something is in the works. Indiana totally dropped the ball here and missed out on a steal.
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Post#39 » by thanumba2clippersfan » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:27 pm

This was a crazy Trade Deadline, so many deals. It's hard for me to remember all that happened. I wish that we could have somehow acquired a SF that would help us. We did get Moon, but I really don't know what he will do for us. We still have Butler and my guess is we will buy him out unless he gets played exclusively at SG.
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Post#40 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:23 pm

Yeah, definitely a crazy trade deadline!

The Boston trade is really surprising considering it's late in the season. I think it really works IF Shaq and O'Neal are both healthy and contributing in the playoffs, OTOH I don't know how likely that is...

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