Woj: HOU still wants Asik for Lee, CHI determined to add SG

larcat · Post #301 » by **larcat** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:54 pm

IllinoisReppa20 wrote:
No, he is saying you don't trade for Hill and just trade the two low 1sts for Lee and Bogans, or just absorb Lee, whichever. If they want a sweetener, we throw in a 2nd.

And get your hands off KT. Stop trying to trade the Bulls' bigs away. That includes Assistant Coach Ginger.

IllinoisReppa20 · Post #302 » by **IllinoisReppa20** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:54 pm

how will that get done when they won't do that?

IllinoisReppa20 · Post #303 » by **IllinoisReppa20** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:55 pm

larcat wrote:
IllinoisReppa20 wrote:
No, he is saying you don't trade for Hill and just trade the two low 1sts for Lee and Bogans, or just absorb Lee, whichever. If they want a sweetener, we throw in a 2nd.

And get your hands off KT. Stop trying to trade the Bulls' bigs away. That includes Assistant Coach Ginger.

lol that was actually funny but no

chadrucf · Post #304 » by **chadrucf** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:56 pm

I'm saying we have many many cheaper (in terms of assets) options available that we don't need to go hard at Lee. We can shop around. If that's what it takes to get Lee, we have Mayo, Smith, Parker, Pietrus, etc. to check in on.

larcat · Post #305 » by **larcat** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:56 pm

IllinoisReppa20 wrote:how will that get done when they won't do that?

We have the cards.

If no one will take some combination of 3 first round picks for one of their not so great SGs, we stand pat until the off season.

If you have noticed, teams with amazing big depth along with one superlative wing player seem to be doing well in the post season.

We shouldn't trade that basic formula for a so so SG.

Picks that we don't have a use for as our core is well set for some time to come, fine, lose them.

larcat · Post #306 » by **larcat** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:58 pm

chadrucf wrote:I'm saying we have many many cheaper (in terms of assets) options available that we don't need to go hard at Lee. We can shop around. If that's what it takes to get Lee, we have Mayo, Smith, Parker, Pietrus, etc. to check in on.

That.

ball teacher · Post #307 » by **ball teacher** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:58 pm

Wilson Chandler is a SF that can play the SG position just like Stephen Jackson from Charlotte and some people on this board wanted to do that trade earlier in the season. I'd go for Chandler, and Mayo before I tried to get Lee. Lee absolutely cannot shoot and I don't think he can defend as well as Bogans can. Asik for Lee would be a terrible deal.

IllinoisReppa20 · Post #308 » by **IllinoisReppa20** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:03 pm

ball teacher wrote:Wilson Chandler is a SF that can play the SG position just like Stephen Jackson from Charlotte and some people on this board wanted to do that trade earlier in the season. I'd go for Chandler, and Mayo before I tried to get Lee. Lee absolutely cannot shoot and I don't think he can defend as well as Bogans can. Asik for Lee would be a terrible deal.

Yes as supported by Lee shooting 44% and 42% this season

and Mayo shooting 42 and 36

BR0D1E86 · Post #309 » by **BR0D1E86** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:05 pm

All the debating with Mayo and Lee just made me decide to post what I've heard to give everyone a better understanding of what could be going on

I missed it. And I’m very lazy. So what up?

KeithBoothfan · Post #310 » by **KeithBoothfan** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:06 pm

Lee is both a better defender and shooter than Bogans. My OPINION.

-scout

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #311 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:08 pm

BR0D1E86 wrote:
All the debating with Mayo and Lee just made me decide to post what I've heard to give everyone a better understanding of what could be going on

I missed it. And I’m very lazy. So what up?

Ralph posted some text messages he got from a third party source who has had knowledge in the past - but Ralph will not vouch for the authenticity this time.

Memphis is offering Thabeet & OJ for Taj and two picks

Houston is offering Lee and Jordan Hill for Asik and first rounder

BR0D1E86 · Post #312 » by **BR0D1E86** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:08 pm

Lee absolutely cannot shoot

Wait, what?

Do you mean Carlos Lee? I think we all agreed yesterday that was a typo.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #313 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:09 pm

FWIW - Taj would be an excellent addition to Memphis if Z Randolph is traded. Gasol and Taj would be a nice frontcourt combo.

But they can suck an ass if they think they are getting Taj.

ball teacher · Post #314 » by **ball teacher** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:09 pm

IllinoisReppa20 wrote:
ball teacher wrote:Wilson Chandler is a SF that can play the SG position just like Stephen Jackson from Charlotte and some people on this board wanted to do that trade earlier in the season. I'd go for Chandler, and Mayo before I tried to get Lee. Lee absolutely cannot shoot and I don't think he can defend as well as Bogans can. Asik for Lee would be a terrible deal.

Yes as supported by Lee shooting 44% and 42% this season

and Mayo shooting 42 and 36

Mayo is a better overall player and he can shoot, Lee is Bogans with less defense. Orlando let him go, New Jersey got rid of him, now Houston is trying to send him away for a promising young big man in Asik, don't bite on that. If you want a guy who can score get Chandler or Mayo, nobody has ever looked at Lee as a great shooter or scorer since he's been in the league.

BR0D1E86 · Post #315 » by **BR0D1E86** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:10 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
BR0D1E86 wrote:
All the debating with Mayo and Lee just made me decide to post what I've heard to give everyone a better understanding of what could be going on

I missed it. And I’m very lazy. So what up?

Ralph posted some text messages he got from a third party source who has had knowledge in the past - but Ralph will not vouch for the authenticity this time.

Memphis is offering Thabeet & OJ for Taj and two picks

Houston is offering Lee and Jordan Hill for Asik and first rounder

I see. Thx.

If Houston will switch from Asik to Taj I'd probably do that one. Otherwise I'd probably do the Mayo trade. I love the big man depth, but if we trade one we've still got a solid 4 man rotation with one needing to be replaced in the next 12 months or so.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #316 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:10 pm

I like Chandler, but pretty much everyone has reported that Denver FO has shut down all deals. No one s leaving Denver.

Clocian · Post #317 » by **Clocian** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:12 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
BR0D1E86 wrote:
All the debating with Mayo and Lee just made me decide to post what I've heard to give everyone a better understanding of what could be going on

I missed it. And I’m very lazy. So what up?

Ralph posted some text messages he got from a third party source who has had knowledge in the past - but Ralph will not vouch for the authenticity this time.

Memphis is offering Thabeet & OJ for Taj and two picks

Houston is offering Lee and Jordan Hill for Asik and first rounder

holy **** do the oj trade! i'd do the lee trade too but oj better

BR0D1E86 · Post #318 » by **BR0D1E86** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:12 pm

Lee is Bogans with less defense

That is so far incorrect that I’m unsure how to quantify the incorrectness of it.

IllinoisReppa20 · Post #319 » by **IllinoisReppa20** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:13 pm

BR0D1E86 wrote:
Lee is Bogans with less defense

That is so far incorrect that I’m unsure how to quantify the incorrectness of it.

pretty sure if Lee got the looks Bogans gets, and sometimes those lanes, he would be a 47-8% shooter and 45% from 3

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #320 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:14 pm

Clocian wrote:holy **** do the oj trade! i'd do the lee trade too but oj better

Hell to the no.