Woj: HOU still wants Asik for Lee, CHI determined to add SG

[panthermark]

I'm more of a lurker here, but the way I see it, I would rather have Anthony Parker, the Char pick, Asik, and Gibson than Lee or Mayo.The dropoff between Parker and Mayo isn't as significant as the dropoff between Gibson and a PF we get as a throw in, or Scal. Defense wins championships, especially when we have to go through a team like Boston.

I feel the exact same way.

Taj and Asik stay...
If Houston does not want our overpayment...so be it.
Welcome back to Chicago Anthony Parker...or at least the Greater Chicago Metroland Area...

[panthermark]

Bottom line - I don't think any of the SG's we have been talking about are worth destroying what is the real strength of this team (outside of Unicorns) the frontcourt depth.


Paxson has as much said that they aren't going to trade those guys unless its for a real significant player. Courtney Lee and Mayo do not fit that description.

Now Pardon me, the frier buzzer just went off and I have a filet o' fish to make. No pickles/extra tartar.

Throw some cheese on that bytch!...

[pduh01]

You do not trade a big for a guard unless he is really really really really good maybe I dare say "great" so I don't have to type really a bunch of times . I say this yesterday you do not trade a big for a guard, yes Courtney Lee is a good fit for us.

But he is not worth if trading for one of our bigs and that is not over-valuing our bigs it is be more like another way around. Frontcourt players is more important in a long run especially in the post-season than trading your bigs for someone like Courtney Lee(and I like Courtney Lee I would trade for him but not at the expense of trading our bigs for him.) or Anthony Parker(I just giving my example.)

As for OJ Mayo I am not a big fan of his but I thought he have talent and a superstar potential I do think he needs a change of scenario which might be best for him. Will I open a deal for him? Sure I would not mind but a few things that maybe a roadblock and this is to think about.

Both OJ and Rose will be free agents next summer in 2012 and unless JR is willing to keep both and pay the tax which is pretty much a big question mark on it for the time being. I do not believe it until it actually happens. Priority #1 get Rose a extension and it is possible that we could lose OJ Mayo unless we traded him to replace him which is fine and dandy if they can pull it off. That will be kinda downgrade but again depend who we get. I know I"m thinking straight ahead but you got to think along those lines.

The new CBA might even plays a big factor for it that is another thing to keep in mind, I mean it might be ok of getting Courtney Lee which won't be much of a factor I do not think. But with OJ who may look for a big pay day.

Again I am open for OJ Mayo but with this season I am not open of trading Taj nor Asik for him unless you give me insurance back especially regarding Taj other then that no. Is OJ worth one of the bigs that is a big maybe but the way he is playing most of this season is hard to say yes it's worth trading the bigs and no that is not overvaluing our bigs sorry it's true.

Remember this phrase:

"Sometime waiting might hurts you but it may hurts you in a short run but it may helps in a long run."

Yes I make that up but if you understand that phrase you will know what I meant by.

Think about it.

[Clint Eastwood]

id never concede to an ignorant drunk like you.

go back to working your min. wage girl

fixed

[jumpmanjay]

id never concede to an ignorant punk like you.

go back to working your min. wage gig.

youll last long around here.

[BullsCroatia]

We are going to regret this in the playoffs when Derrick Rose is going to be double, triple teamed.

Taj Gibson is not going to make plays out off those situations. But the quality SG with the playoff experience might.

[PJ Brown]

We are going to regret this in the playoffs when Derrick Rose is going to be double, triple teamed.

Taj Gibson is not going to make plays out off those situations. But the quality SG with the playoff experience might.

We'll only regret it if we are unable to find another way to improve at the position. It's not an either-or proposition.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

We are going to regret this in the playoffs when Derrick Rose is going to be double, triple teamed.

Taj Gibson is not going to make plays out off those situations. But the quality SG with the playoff experience might.

I can only hope, that when it does happen and we are knocked out of the playoffs, that you will be back to celebrate it.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Bottom line - I don't think any of the SG's we have been talking about are worth destroying what is the real strength of this team (outside of Unicorns) the frontcourt depth.


Paxson has as much said that they aren't going to trade those guys unless its for a real significant player. Courtney Lee and Mayo do not fit that description.

Now Pardon me, the frier buzzer just went off and I have a filet o' fish to make. No pickles/extra tartar.

Throw some cheese on that bytch!...

Hold on a sec' Looks like some kid puked in the bathroom. Anyone seen the mop?

[KeithBoothfan]

I can see why the teams we're dealing with want us to pay through the nose, which is why I'll be disappointed, but not angry, if we don't make a deal for Lee or Mayo.

1) It's obvious to anyone with a pulse that we're a solid SG away from being a pretty complete team.

2) Morey knows (1), and likes to win trades, and understandably is asking for one of our cheap, valuable assets - one that team could really use.

3) The Grizz braintrust probably know (1), though that's not entirely certain given some of the clueless moves they've made. Mayo is also a recent high pick, who put up decent stats his first 2 years. I can see why they are reluctant to deal him while his value is low.

4) Denver knows (1); the dust is still settling on the Melo deal, and Afflalo is a fine young piece who probably won't crush their cap to keep this summer.

All those things considered, I think all parties to the Bulls' SG pursuit are being rational, if stubborn, in their dealings here. Which is why we may end up with Parker or nobody when the dust settles. Which would be a bummer, but not the end of the world.

[BullsCroatia]

Bottom line - I don't think any of the SG's we have been talking about are worth destroying what is the real strength of this team (outside of Unicorns) the frontcourt depth.


Paxson has as much said that they aren't going to trade those guys unless its for a real significant player. Courtney Lee and Mayo do not fit that description.

Now Pardon me, the frier buzzer just went off and I have a filet o' fish to make. No pickles/extra tartar.

So, if we trade Taj and replace him with let's say Jordan Hill our frontcourt depth would be destroyed although we would still have 6 guys to rotate at the PF and C spots?

We are talking about a back up PF here guys, not starter, not Noah, not Carlos Boozer.

Also, let's keep ingoring the fact who is starting for the Bulls at the SG.

[BullsCroatia]

We are going to regret this in the playoffs when Derrick Rose is going to be double, triple teamed.

Taj Gibson is not going to make plays out off those situations. But the quality SG with the playoff experience might.

I can only hope, that when it does happen and we are knocked out of the playoffs, that you will be back to celebrate it.

And why would I do that?

[m_willis01]

Courtney Lee Magic Playoffs Mix:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg5OImTFfjE&feature=fvst[/youtube]

[blumeany]

We are going to regret this in the playoffs when Derrick Rose is going to be double, triple teamed.

Taj Gibson is not going to make plays out off those situations. But the quality SG with the playoff experience might.

But we aren't talking about quality SGs, we're talking about Lee, Mayo, and Parker (and some people love Affalo).

[Magilla_Gorilla]

So, if we trade Taj and replace him with let's say Jordan Hill our frontcourt depth would be destroyed although we would still have 6 guys to rotate at the PF and C spots?

We are talking about a back up PF here guys, not starter, not Noah, not Carlos Boozer.

Also, let's keep ingoring the fact who is starting for the Bulls at the SG.

Taj is a capable starter in the NBA. Jordan Hill is not. Our frontcourt starters could not be described as ironmen - and I would rather have as good a set of backups as possible over a marginal upgrade at SG.

[panthermark]

I can see why the teams we're dealing with want us to pay through the nose, which is why I'll be disappointed, but not angry, if we don't make a deal for Lee or Mayo.

1) It's obvious to anyone with a pulse that we're a solid SG away from being a pretty complete team.

2) Morey knows (1), and likes to win trades, and understandably is asking for one of our cheap, valuable assets - one that team could really use.

3) The Grizz braintrust probably know (1), though that's not entirely certain given some of the clueless moves they've made. Mayo is also a recent high pick, who put up decent stats his first 2 years. I can see why they are reluctant to deal him while his value is low.

4) Denver knows (1); the dust is still settling on the Melo deal, and Afflalo is a fine young piece who probably won't crush their cap to keep this summer.

All those things considered, I think all parties to the Bulls' SG pursuit are being rational, if stubborn, in their dealings here. Which is why we may end up with Parker or nobody when the dust settles. Which would be a bummer, but not the end of the world.

Agreed....if thinks were reversed.....we would be holding out for more ourselves.
They are not being unreasonable....yet...

[Chrome]

If there's one team that will give away one of their good players for a bunch of draft picks, it's the Memphis Grizzlies.

[Bulltalk]

I can see why the teams we're dealing with want us to pay through the nose, which is why I'll be disappointed, but not angry, if we don't make a deal for Lee or Mayo.

1) It's obvious to anyone with a pulse that we're a solid SG away from being a pretty complete team.

2) Morey knows (1), and likes to win trades, and understandably is asking for one of our cheap, valuable assets - one that team could really use.

3) The Grizz braintrust probably know (1), though that's not entirely certain given some of the clueless moves they've made. Mayo is also a recent high pick, who put up decent stats his first 2 years. I can see why they are reluctant to deal him while his value is low.

4) Denver knows (1); the dust is still settling on the Melo deal, and Afflalo is a fine young piece who probably won't crush their cap to keep this summer.

All those things considered, I think all parties to the Bulls' SG pursuit are being rational, if stubborn, in their dealings here. Which is why we may end up with Parker or nobody when the dust settles. Which would be a bummer, but not the end of the world.

That's basically it, though I will be less disappointed than you perhaps. And that's why this game of chicken is going down to the wire. I think Bulls management is quite prudent, and I believe they're not going to feel forced to do anything. They know that we're good enough this year to keep the fan-base happy. And we know they aren't going to spend beyond the appearance of prudence for a shot at the title this year in a significant upgrade at the SG position. It's clear they like our young bigs. It's not quite so clear if they would unload any one of them now for a SG.

[m_willis01]

Taj has turned into Our MOSGOV

[BullsCroatia]

So, if we trade Taj and replace him with let's say Jordan Hill our frontcourt depth would be destroyed although we would still have 6 guys to rotate at the PF and C spots?

We are talking about a back up PF here guys, not starter, not Noah, not Carlos Boozer.

Also, let's keep ingoring the fact who is starting for the Bulls at the SG.

Taj is a capable starter in the NBA. Jordan Hill is not. Our frontcourt starters could not be described as ironmen - and I would rather have as good a set of backups as possible over a marginal upgrade at SG.

We are not winning anything if one of those guys(Noah and Boozer) is injured. So, it doesn't really matter if Taj is capable starter. He is also not a capable player coming off the bench when it comes to offense. Remember how everybody was very excited that Taj is going to lead our second unit with scoring when Boozer came back? How did that work?