Official Transaction Ideas thread

rjvir · Post #1461 » by **rjvir** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:31 am

Since the Nuggets apparently want to start Lawson and use him as their PG for the future - it would make sense for them to trade Felton, as they have no use for him as a backup PG. He may demand a trade if he learns he is going to be a backup. The Nuggets know that his value is at his highest point right now as he has been playing in D'antoni's PG-friendly system. He's the perfect fit in LA - he plays tough D, can hit the 3, and is clutch.

Ebanks, Caracter, S. Brown, some draft picks, and cash for Felton.

KingLakers · Post #1462 » by **KingLakers** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:19 am

Why woud you trade Shannon for Felton and end up with 2 PG's coming off the bench I think Blake, Ratliff, and the NYK and GSW 2011 2nd round picks should be enough. With Blake they save 3.5 mil this season and next 2 decently high 2nd round picks and Ratliffs expiring deal.

rjvir · Post #1463 » by **rjvir** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:21 am

KingLakers wrote:Why woud you trade Shannon for Felton and end up with 2 PG's coming off the bench I think Blake, Ratliff, and the NYK and GSW 2011 2nd round picks should be enough. With Blake they save 3.5 mil this season and next 2 decently high 2nd round picks and Ratliffs expiring deal.

Blake's on a 4 year deal - I doubt they bite.

The_Trade_Seer · Post #1464 » by **The_Trade_Seer** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:40 pm

Breaking News: Al Horford's dad demanded the Hawks get a true center to allow his son to play PF and when the Hawks offer of picking up a retired Dikembe Mutumbo with a vet min contract didn't work, papa Horford pulled out the big guns and demanded Andrew Bynum be a Laker ... the Hawks asked Mitch what he wanted for Bynum and he said, "Get Kirk Hinrich on your team and call me back", so they did.

LAKERS TRADE: Bynum, Artest, Blake, Walton, Caracter and Ratliff

HAWKS TRADE: Josh Smith, Hinrich, Jamaal Crawford, Zaza Pachulia, Hilton Armstrong, Jarron Collins, a #1 pick and $3mil cash

LAKERS LINEUP:

PG: Hinrich/Fisher
SG: Kobe/Crawford/Brown
SF: J-Smoothe/Barnes/Ebanks
PF: Odom/Smith/Armstrong
C: Gasol/Pachulia/Collins

WOULD YOU DO THIS TRADE?

Post #1465 » by **Slava** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:35 pm

The_Trade_Seer · Post #1466 » by **The_Trade_Seer** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:38 pm

I think the Hawks would have jumped at that deal ... but the Lakers would have been Celtics-stupid to do it, hahahaha.

For the record, I AM THRILLED we stood pat now that the Celtics lost Perkins ... get the rings ready David Stern, it's 3-peat time!

Jetset · Post #1467 » by **Jetset** » Thu Feb 24, 2011 10:44 pm

AI-in-LA wrote:I think the Hawks would have jumped at that deal ... but the Lakers would have been Celtics-stupid to do it, hahahaha.

For the record, I AM THRILLED we stood pat now that the Celtics lost Perkins ... get the rings ready David Stern, it's 3-peat time!

Yeah the Celtics are pretty much little to no threat at all now, but we have to worry about getting past OKC and SA. As for your trade. Yes. In a heartbeat.

LApwnd · Post #1468 » by **LApwnd** » Fri Feb 25, 2011 5:28 pm

DubaLakers wrote:
Jetset wrote:
DubaLakers wrote:Hmm, now that Melo's been taded...

Deron wants to play in NY. CP3 will go to MIA or NY. Sounds good to me, we get D12 !

Thats the second time you've posted CP3 to MIA. Am I missing something?

Sorry guys, I meant after next season when they're FA.

I guess you have no idea what a salary CAP means :lol:

Tekkenlaw · Post #1469 » by **Tekkenlaw** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:31 am

Sorry if it's considered bad voodoo to bring up next off-season, but has anyone noticed how loaded the free agent class is with solid veterans that would be useful to us? Jamal Crawford, Tayshaun Prince, Josh Howard (Meh), Delonte West, Sam Dalembert, and K-Mart just to name a few. I hope the new CBA doesn't do away with the mid-level exception.

What if we split the mid-level between Prince (Likely) and Crawford (Less likely) to replace Barnes and Brown?

Jetset · Post #1470 » by **Jetset** » Sun Feb 27, 2011 3:13 am

Tekkenlaw wrote:Sorry if it's considered bad voodoo to bring up next off-season, but has anyone noticed how loaded the free agent class is with solid veterans that would be useful to us? Jamal Crawford, Tayshaun Prince, Josh Howard (Meh), Delonte West, Sam Dalembert, and K-Mart just to name a few. I hope the new CBA doesn't do away with the mid-level exception.

What if we split the mid-level between Prince (Likely) and Crawford (Less likely) to replace Barnes and Brown?

Nah its not bad voodoo we bring it up all the time, we also talk about 2012's offseason too. Barnes is likely to get resigned, and we might hang on to Shannon as well (if anything to be included in some trade package). I would like any of the names that you listed other than Howard and Prince on this team, although West is likely to be resigned by Boston. There will be a MLE in the new CBA, so dont worry. I just pray to Based God that we flip Artest during the offseason, that would be so great.

I wouldn't be opposed to striking a deal with PHX for Aaron Brooks either.

LApwnd · Post #1471 » by **LApwnd** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:31 pm

I like to keep Barnes on and replace Brown with either Crawford or Prince....I think if we can get prince Barnes can backup Kobe at the 2. Hopefully we can address the PG issue better this off-season, Fish is that much more older and Blake, well he has his days but he's not aggressive enough for my taste.

larry14r · Post #1472 » by **larry14r** » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:06 pm

LApwnd wrote:I like to keep Barnes on and replace Brown with either Crawford or Prince....I think if we can get prince Barnes can backup Kobe at the 2. Hopefully we can address the PG issue better this off-season, Fish is that much more older and Blake, well he has his days but he's not aggressive enough for my taste.

Blake would be more aggressive if we had put him in the starting lineup. I mean finding a PG won't be easy especially when we only have the MLE to work with.

Jetset · Post #1473 » by **Jetset** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 12:19 am

I'm sure flipping Blake somewhere and trading w/ PHX for Aaron Brooks isn't a far cry from reality is it?

larry14r · Post #1474 » by **larry14r** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 12:57 am

Jetset wrote:I'm sure flipping Blake somewhere and trading w/ PHX for Aaron Brooks isn't a far cry from reality is it?

Phoneix is not going to help us you should know better.

Jetset · Post #1475 » by **Jetset** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 1:41 am

larry14r wrote:
Jetset wrote:I'm sure flipping Blake somewhere and trading w/ PHX for Aaron Brooks isn't a far cry from reality is it?

Phoneix is not going to help us you should know better.

I don't think PHX would turn down a future 1st + filler for Brooks but thats just me I suppose. And you're right looking at the F.A. list for PGs there's no one that could come in and without a doubt be much of an improvement.

CX44 · Post #1476 » by **CX44** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 7:16 pm

I would like Raymond Felton but Denver is not going to help us and we truly have nothing to offer.

ALL HAIL · Post #1477 » by **ALL HAIL** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 9:30 pm

If Dwight Howard is, in fact, a remote possiblity, the offer must be sweet to outbid New Jersey (Lopez) and Boston (still don't see how they're in the picture?):

Trade Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Blake, and Walton to Orlando for

Howard, Turkoglu, Nelson, Redick, and Duhon

then flip Jameer Nelson to Atlanta for Hinrich.

Sign Corey Brewer, Nazr Mohammed, Mbenga, and Shelden Williams after the lockout and you have a team that can go head up with any team out East for many years:

PG - Hinrich - Duhon
SG - Bryant - Redick - Brown*
C - Howard - Mohammed - Mbenga
PF - Odom - Turkoglu - Williams
SF - Brewer - Barnes* - Ebanks

Jetset · Post #1478 » by **Jetset** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 10:04 pm

ALL HAIL wrote:If Dwight Howard is, in fact, a remote possiblity, the offer must be sweet to outbid New Jersey (Lopez) and Boston (still don't see how they're in the picture?):

Trade Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Blake, and Walton to Orlando for

Howard, Turkoglu, Nelson, Redick, and Duhon

then flip Jameer Nelson to Atlanta for Hinrich.

Sign Corey Brewer, Nazr Mohammed, Mbenga, and Shelden Williams after the lockout and you have a team that can go head up with any team out East for many years:

PG - Hinrich - Duhon
SG - Bryant - Redick - Brown*
C - Howard - Mohammed - Mbenga
PF - Odom - Turkoglu - Williams
SF - Brewer - Barnes* - Ebanks

Nets have nothing to offer other than Lopez, and I think a Bynum package beats anything NJ could offer with Lopez. Howard isn't going to Boston, no way Orlando trades him there. Only way they become players is if Howard hits F.A. which isn't likely. Hinrich's would be a F.A. in 2012 so we wouldn't trade for him, we'd probably end up stuck with Jameer. And thats just way too much to give up for Howard. Gasol and Bynum? Only way a Gasol/Howard deal happens is if we flip Bynum first.

If that truly was the final roster after the Howard trade, then I think we're better off not being in the Howard sweepstakes. But with the salaries of Bryant/Gasol, we aren't in any play for him anyway, unless brilliant minds come together and develop a plan.

ALL HAIL · Post #1479 » by **ALL HAIL** » Tue Mar 1, 2011 10:19 pm

Jetset wrote:
ALL HAIL wrote:If Dwight Howard is, in fact, a remote possiblity, the offer must be sweet to outbid New Jersey (Lopez) and Boston (still don't see how they're in the picture?):

Trade Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Blake, and Walton to Orlando for

Howard, Turkoglu, Nelson, Redick, and Duhon

then flip Jameer Nelson to Atlanta for Hinrich.

Sign Corey Brewer, Nazr Mohammed, Mbenga, and Shelden Williams after the lockout and you have a team that can go head up with any team out East for many years:

PG - Hinrich - Duhon
SG - Bryant - Redick - Brown*
C - Howard - Mohammed - Mbenga
PF - Odom - Turkoglu - Williams
SF - Brewer - Barnes* - Ebanks

Nets have nothing to offer other than Lopez, and I think a Bynum package beats anything NJ could offer with Lopez. Howard isn't going to Boston, no way Orlando trades him there. Only way they become players is if Howard hits F.A. which isn't likely. Hinrich's would be a F.A. in 2012 so we wouldn't trade for him, we'd probably end up stuck with Jameer. And thats just way too much to give up for Howard. Gasol and Bynum? Only way a Gasol/Howard deal happens is if we flip Bynum first.

If that truly was the final roster after the Howard trade, then I think we're better off not being in the Howard sweepstakes. But with the salaries of Bryant/Gasol, we aren't in any play for him anyway, unless brilliant minds come together and develop a plan.

A few points:
1 - Many would say that they'd rather have Lopez over Bynum.
2 - I don't really understand how Boston is a player if Howard hits free agency in 2012?
3 - The trade I proposed is a trade that would go down before the summer of 2012, which means Hinrich would not be a free agent yet.
4 - People on this board despise my trade proposals because I seem to always give up too much from the Lakers. The deal I proposed is a deal that, in my opinion, would almost certainly deliver us Dwight Howard.
5 - If Bynum and Gasol are the price to pay for Howard, along with the exodus of Walton, I'd pay that price anyday.

Jetset · Post #1480 » by **Jetset** » Wed Mar 2, 2011 12:26 am

ALL HAIL wrote:
Jetset wrote:
ALL HAIL wrote:If Dwight Howard is, in fact, a remote possiblity, the offer must be sweet to outbid New Jersey (Lopez) and Boston (still don't see how they're in the picture?):

Trade Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Blake, and Walton to Orlando for

Howard, Turkoglu, Nelson, Redick, and Duhon

then flip Jameer Nelson to Atlanta for Hinrich.

Sign Corey Brewer, Nazr Mohammed, Mbenga, and Shelden Williams after the lockout and you have a team that can go head up with any team out East for many years:

PG - Hinrich - Duhon
SG - Bryant - Redick - Brown*
C - Howard - Mohammed - Mbenga
PF - Odom - Turkoglu - Williams
SF - Brewer - Barnes* - Ebanks

Nets have nothing to offer other than Lopez, and I think a Bynum package beats anything NJ could offer with Lopez. Howard isn't going to Boston, no way Orlando trades him there. Only way they become players is if Howard hits F.A. which isn't likely. Hinrich's would be a F.A. in 2012 so we wouldn't trade for him, we'd probably end up stuck with Jameer. And thats just way too much to give up for Howard. Gasol and Bynum? Only way a Gasol/Howard deal happens is if we flip Bynum first.

If that truly was the final roster after the Howard trade, then I think we're better off not being in the Howard sweepstakes. But with the salaries of Bryant/Gasol, we aren't in any play for him anyway, unless brilliant minds come together and develop a plan.

A few points:
1 - Many would say that they'd rather have Lopez over Bynum.
2 - I don't really understand how Boston is a player if Howard hits free agency in 2012?
3 - The trade I proposed is a trade that would go down before the summer of 2012, which means Hinrich would not be a free agent yet.
4 - People on this board despise my trade proposals because I seem to always give up too much from the Lakers. The deal I proposed is a deal that, in my opinion, would almost certainly deliver us Dwight Howard.
5 - If Bynum and Gasol are the price to pay for Howard, along with the exodus of Walton, I'd pay that price anyday.

1. Thats fine, thats them. But they wouldn't be saying that if Bynum was healthy on a consistent basis. His potential when healthy >>> a 7'0" C who cant rebound.

2. Cap space. The only players that the Celtics have for the 12-13 season are Rondo - $11 mil, Pierce - $16 mil, and Avery Bradley - $1.6 mil. Boston has enough to sign two stars.

3. So, basically what you're saying is that Orlando trades Howard during the season and doesn't try to make a deep run and keep him? Not happening, unless Howard gives them early indication that he's using his ETO after the season. And even then I think they'll let him walk, just so they can say they did all they could do to keep him.

4.- 5. That is ridiculous you're undervaluing Gasol and its not even funny. Although if we get Howard, we'll have to end up trading Gasol anyway it shouldn't be to the Magic where we get a bunch of guards, and a player in Turkoglu which we'll probably end up getting from their salary dump anyway. Bynum/expirings of Odom, Walton/Picks is enough for Howard. If we were forced into throwing in Gasol and at least not getting a serviceable starter in return (like that trade suggests), then I'd reconsider going after Howard. There's no need to overpay that much for one guy. We've won before him, and we'll continue to win with our without him.