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Re: 2011 Free Agent Targets 

Post#61 » by dangermouse » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:16 pm

The only FA's i want, as of now, are NY1 re-upped, and i wouldnt mind if we used a bit of cash to get a veteran C who wouldnt mind coming here and coming off the bench behind McGee. Someone like Pryz who might be looking to up his value. The only pitfall in such a scenario is Flip playing the vet over McGee...
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Re: 2011 Free Agent Targets 

Post#62 » by nate33 » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:34 pm

dangermouse wrote:The only FA's i want, as of now, are NY1 re-upped, and i wouldnt mind if we used a bit of cash to get a veteran C who wouldnt mind coming here and coming off the bench behind McGee. Someone like Pryz who might be looking to up his value. The only pitfall in such a scenario is Flip playing the vet over McGee...

That sums up my opinion as well. Young plus a vet center on a 1-year deal. I haven't decided if we should go for a goon like Pryz, or more of an over-the-hill skill player like Kurt Thomas.
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Re: 2011 Free Agent Targets 

Post#63 » by miller31time » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:42 pm

^^^ With such a young, impressionable team, I want the grizzled vet with a great work ethic. Kurt Thomas would seem to fit the bill.

Plus, signing Old-man River also takes away the temptation of benching McGee and playing the backup 30 minutes....because the backup couldn't actually play that long without breaking a hip.
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Post#64 » by Illuminaire » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:45 pm

Ruzious wrote:Now that they're talking about raising the draft age (for the NBA, that is), the 2012 draft might get badly diluted.


Trading for 2013 picks might not be a bad idea then. It's a safe bet that the Wolves, Raptors, and Cavs will still be bad then. I'd love to get picks from any of those teams. ^_^
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Post#65 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:48 pm

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dangermouse wrote:The only FA's i want, as of now, are NY1 re-upped, and i wouldnt mind if we used a bit of cash to get a veteran C who wouldnt mind coming here and coming off the bench behind McGee. Someone like Pryz who might be looking to up his value. The only pitfall in such a scenario is Flip playing the vet over McGee...

That sums up my opinion as well. Young plus a vet center on a 1-year deal. I haven't decided if we should go for a goon like Pryz, or more of an over-the-hill skill player like Kurt Thomas.


I hope they go for a young veteran from the Euroleague. Richard Hendrix is decent. On DX he's describe as a guy who will fill the role of Kurt Thomas or Reggie Evans as they're being phased out of the league.
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Post#66 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:57 pm

miller31time wrote:^^^ With such a young, impressionable team, I want the grizzled vet with a great work ethic. Kurt Thomas would seem to fit the bill.

Plus, signing Old-man River also takes away the temptation of benching McGee and playing the backup 30 minutes....because the backup couldn't actually play that long without breaking a hip.


I don't think the Wizards need a C. Seraphin can back McGee. I hope they get a young, veteran, FA PF who can play significant minutes like Singleton did. If the Wizards are fortunate to draft Derrick Williams, Blatche will need to go. The veteran FA big can be a stop gap player who can fill in when the rookie gets up to speed. It really doesn't need to be the grizzled vet who would want an expanded role, miller. My problem with bringing Thomas is he'd be coming from the penthouse to the outhouse going from the Bulls to the Wizards.

Perhaps if the Spurs go out early in the playoffs, and if Flip stays, the Wizards can offer McDyess a deal. He came off the bench for Saunders in Detroit years back.
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Post#67 » by 20MexicanosIn1Van » Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:38 am

miller31time wrote:^^^ With such a young, impressionable team, I want the grizzled vet with a great work ethic. Kurt Thomas would seem to fit the bill.

Plus, signing Old-man River also takes away the temptation of benching McGee and playing the backup 30 minutes....because the backup couldn't actually play that long without breaking a hip.


I'm sure some contender will want Kurt. The only vets that come here are ones who garner no interest from contenders. Meaning, they suck.
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Re: 2011 Free Agent Targets 

Post#68 » by Wizardspride » Fri Apr 1, 2011 4:09 am

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dangermouse wrote:The only FA's i want, as of now, are NY1 re-upped, and i wouldnt mind if we used a bit of cash to get a veteran C who wouldnt mind coming here and coming off the bench behind McGee. Someone like Pryz who might be looking to up his value. The only pitfall in such a scenario is Flip playing the vet over McGee...

That sums up my opinion as well. Young plus a vet center on a 1-year deal. I haven't decided if we should go for a goon like Pryz, or more of an over-the-hill skill player like Kurt Thomas.


I hope they go for a young veteran from the Euroleague. Richard Hendrix is decent. On DX he's describe as a guy who will fill the role of Kurt Thomas or Reggie Evans as they're being phased out of the league.


I'd prefer a backup center with a little more height. Hendrix isn't even 6-8.

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Post#69 » by fugop » Fri Apr 1, 2011 6:43 pm

20MexicanosIn1Van wrote:
miller31time wrote:^^^ With such a young, impressionable team, I want the grizzled vet with a great work ethic. Kurt Thomas would seem to fit the bill.

Plus, signing Old-man River also takes away the temptation of benching McGee and playing the backup 30 minutes....because the backup couldn't actually play that long without breaking a hip.


I'm sure some contender will want Kurt. The only vets that come here are ones who garner no interest from contenders. Meaning, they suck.


Anthony Carter is a vet whom I could see us bringing in for the "mentorship" role. Carter's 35, he's done, and he would probably be redundant with Cassell as a coach, but he'd probably provide a nice defensive contrast to Sam. He's never been more than a role player, but his time with Riley and the (tolerable) Heat would give him some cred.
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Post#70 » by Dark Faze » Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:17 pm

I believe Randolph, M. Gasol and Kevin Love are the only bigs of talent that aren't locked up for the forseeable future.

I don't know that any of them are worth overpaying for. Gasol just isn't that good, Randolph is the last person this franchise needs to invest in, and Kevin...he is going to be too expensive.

All we can do is hope we have a good draft and see if we can get something useful for Dray.
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Post#71 » by Rafael122 » Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:22 pm

Jeff Foster?
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Post#72 » by dangermouse » Sat Apr 2, 2011 11:37 am

Rafael122 wrote:Jeff Foster?


I can dig that.

Brian Skinner? I dont know how long his contract in Italy is for. I liked him on the Suns a few years ago...
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Post#73 » by dobrojim » Sat Apr 2, 2011 2:12 pm

Skinner is truly awful. No thanks.
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Post#74 » by closg00 » Sat Apr 2, 2011 2:46 pm

dobrojim wrote:Skinner is truly awful. No thanks.


+1 He's well past the expiration date.
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Post#75 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Apr 2, 2011 11:51 pm

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dangermouse wrote:The only FA's i want, as of now, are NY1 re-upped, and i wouldnt mind if we used a bit of cash to get a veteran C who wouldnt mind coming here and coming off the bench behind McGee. Someone like Pryz who might be looking to up his value. The only pitfall in such a scenario is Flip playing the vet over McGee...

That sums up my opinion as well. Young plus a vet center on a 1-year deal. I haven't decided if we should go for a goon like Pryz, or more of an over-the-hill skill player like Kurt Thomas.



A couple guys that come to my mind are Ben Wallace and Marcus Camby, both have 1 yr expiring contracts.
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Post#76 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sun Apr 3, 2011 12:16 am

Dark Faze wrote:I believe Randolph, M. Gasol and Kevin Love are the only bigs of talent that aren't locked up for the forseeable future.

I don't know that any of them are worth overpaying for. Gasol just isn't that good, Randolph is the last person this franchise needs to invest in, and Kevin...he is going to be too expensive.

All we can do is hope we have a good draft and see if we can get something useful for Dray.



Agree 100%. I don't see any FAs of interest. Possibly Gasol, but he'll be way overvalued this offseason because the FA selection is so poor. We need a good draft, and anything we can get for Blatche.
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Re: 2011 Free Agent Targets 

Post#77 » by hands11 » Sun Apr 3, 2011 2:50 am

Illuminaire wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Now that they're talking about raising the draft age (for the NBA, that is), the 2012 draft might get badly diluted.


Trading for 2013 picks might not be a bad idea then. It's a safe bet that the Wolves, Raptors, and Cavs will still be bad then. I'd love to get picks from any of those teams. ^_^


You do realize if the Cavs are lucky they could end up with two top lotto picks this year. I ran the mock machine and once it came up Williams and Barnes. Add that to what they have and they could rebuild quickly.

Sign Nick. Get what you need in the draft which is likely a SF in Williams or Perry plus another first and a second.

Let Howard walk. Dude should give the some money back. Two year = 22 games for how much ? 3M plus what he made last year.

I would rather bring back Mo and Jeffers. Between Booker and our first and what we already have, there is no real reason for Howard here. To many injuries with him anyway. I would actually consider bringing back Yi cheap as bench depth. He does at least have a decent mid range shot and he can back up three positions if you use him as a spot up 3 if you are short handed. Not sure if he would want to be here or not.

Lewis and Mo are enough maturity vet types to anchor the younger players. I know Jeffers is not a vet but he is old school, tough, level headed and mature. Plus he is hungry, healthy and cheap. He fits well with this team and he is a great teaching tool.

This team seems to already be coming together under Flip and Sam. Keep them young for now. They seem to get gelling like a veteran college team. That is their vib. Actually, I think that vib is good for Dray and McGee. Its a vib of hustle, be a team player and listen to your coach. Lewis and Mo seem to be the cool elder statesman that fit with the kids.
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Post#78 » by Illuminaire » Sun Apr 3, 2011 4:52 am

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You do realize if the Cavs are lucky they could end up with two top lotto picks this year. I ran the mock machine and once it came up Williams and Barnes. Add that to what they have and they could rebuild quickly.


If they're lucky, and then if they draft well. That latter part hinges on organizational competence - I don't think I need to list out reasons why the teams I mentioned may have trouble with that particular aspect of rebuilding. =p

I like your points about the Wiz' vibe. I agree, we need to keep the hustle, the energy, the young-guns-on-the-rise mentality. That's an identity you can build on.
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Post#79 » by closg00 » Sun Apr 3, 2011 12:58 pm

Any interest in Dexter Pittman if he is waived by Miami? I'm sure there will be a few teams interested in taking him on as a project - he has kept the wait off during his injury rehab.
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Post#80 » by nate33 » Sun Apr 3, 2011 12:58 pm

I'd take Evans over Jeffers. Our team needs maturity and a few more outside shooters. If we still have a roster spot available after drafting all the guys we want to draft and signing all the guys we want to sign, I wouldn't mind adding Jeffers to the mix. But I don't think he's as valuable as people make him out to be. He's still a shooting guard who can't shoot.

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