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Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6

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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#561 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:30 am

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The idea of Lamb, a willowy 6-5 swingman from Norcross, Ga., leaving for the pros after one year at UConn is one that is just recently being discussed.

Lamb wasn't even averaging in double figures going into the Big East tournament, scoring 9.6 a game as UConn stood 21-9.

Since then, though, UConn is 10-0 and Lamb has become a fast-rising star. In the 10 games covering Big East tournament and NCAA tournament play, Lamb is averaging 15.6 points and shooting 55.2%.

In NCAA tournament play, it's 17.0 points and 59.3%
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"I'm not paying any attention to that right now," Lamb said Sunday of speculation he would enter this year's NBA draft. "I'm in college at the NCAA tournament about to play for a national title … I'll think about that later."



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-04-03-connecticut-walker-calhoun-ncaa_N.htm

If he declares, the Raptors should seriously try to get this kid with another pick.


I'd use our first pick on him. He's Thabo with a jumper, he could play with any type of PG you want. He could play with Bayless, trade Demar. Two-way true SGs are a dying breed.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#562 » by 5DOM » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:31 am

Really like him but he should stay in college IMO
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#563 » by Comeatme_Bro » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:32 am

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:
MEDIC wrote:
The idea of Lamb, a willowy 6-5 swingman from Norcross, Ga., leaving for the pros after one year at UConn is one that is just recently being discussed.

Lamb wasn't even averaging in double figures going into the Big East tournament, scoring 9.6 a game as UConn stood 21-9.

Since then, though, UConn is 10-0 and Lamb has become a fast-rising star. In the 10 games covering Big East tournament and NCAA tournament play, Lamb is averaging 15.6 points and shooting 55.2%.

In NCAA tournament play, it's 17.0 points and 59.3%
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"I'm not paying any attention to that right now," Lamb said Sunday of speculation he would enter this year's NBA draft. "I'm in college at the NCAA tournament about to play for a national title … I'll think about that later."



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/2011-04-03-connecticut-walker-calhoun-ncaa_N.htm

If he declares, the Raptors should seriously try to get this kid with another pick.


I'd use our first pick on him. He's Thabo with a jumper, he could play with any type of PG you want. He could play with Bayless, trade Demar. Two-way true SGs are a dying breed.

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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#564 » by derrick-rozay » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:33 am

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:

I'd use our first pick on him. He's Thabo with a jumper, he could play with any type of PG you want. He could play with Bayless, trade Demar. Two-way true SGs are a dying breed.


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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#565 » by MEDIC » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:34 am

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:I'd use our first pick on him. He's Thabo with a jumper, he could play with any type of PG you want. He could play with Bayless, trade Demar. Two-way true SGs are a dying breed.


Not sure that Lamb's established himself as a defensive stopper quite yet:

Lamb's liability: He's listed at 185 pounds. He knows he needs to get stronger and improve defensively. "He couldn't guard a chair," UConn coach Jim Calhoun once said of him.


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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#566 » by TheRealDeal » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:37 am

Rhettmatic wrote:DX has the Nike Hoop Summit international measurements:

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/201 ... ments-3661


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Wing Span: 7'7"

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Post#567 » by JamesNaismith » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:42 am

LOL some of you guys are a joke.

The second a kid has a decent game (ie/ Lamb) he's a lotto pick and we need to get him! Lmfao!


It's really embarassing...he's nowhere near lotto talent, he's not even as good as CDR was (remember where he was drafted?). Throughout this tourney everyone's been blabbing how Kemba has "no support" now he's gotta potential lotto pick playing next to him right? Lol What a mess this franchise would be if some the kids on here made any decisions. Just stop....please.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#568 » by MEDIC » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:49 am

JamesNaismith wrote:LOL some of you guys are a joke.

The second a kid has a decent game (ie/ Lamb) he's a lotto pick and we need to get him! Lmfao!


It's really embarassing...he's nowhere near lotto talent, he's not even as good as CDR was (remember where he was drafted?). What a mess this franchise would be if some the kids on here made any decisions. Just stop....please.


A few of us have been watching him closely for a number of games now.

It has nothing to do with "one good game". It has to do with what you see him do on the court.

The guy is 6'5", supposedly has a 7'4" wingspan (as per ESPN), can handle, is athletic, has a jumper, etc.

He has all the tools to be a good SG in the NBA.

He's the closest thing to Kerry Kittles (in terms of measurements) that I've seen since Kerry Kittles. Lamb's wingspan is actually 4" wider than Kittles (if SI is correct).
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#569 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:50 am

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FluLikeSymptoms wrote:

I'd use our first pick on him. He's Thabo with a jumper, he could play with any type of PG you want. He could play with Bayless, trade Demar. Two-way true SGs are a dying breed.


I wish we could trade fans....


Hey, anybody's available for the right price. To clarify, I did say OUR first pick, #4 or #5. 100%.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#570 » by baulderdash77 » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:52 am

Lamb could get drafted at the end of the 1st if he comes back next year and has a good year. He should definitely stay this year.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#571 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:56 am

So now that the NCAA tourney is over, the board for me looks like:

1. Irving

2. Williams

3. Kanter
4. Valanciunas
5. Walker

The number(s) 3-5 could be arranged in any order as far as I'm concerned.

EDIT: This assumes Barnes and Sullinger are not in this year's draft.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#572 » by MEDIC » Tue Apr 5, 2011 3:59 am

I just checked the measurement history on DX. Nobody around the 6'5" range has anything close to a 7'4" wingspan.

Lebron James wingspan is almost 4" shorter than Lamb's.

That's crazy.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#573 » by MEDIC » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:01 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:So now that the NCAA tourney is over, the board for me looks like:

1. Irving

2. Williams

3. Kanter
4. Valanciunas
5. Walker

The number(s) 3-5 could be arranged in any order as far as I'm concerned.

EDIT: This assumes Barnes and Sullinger are not in this year's draft.


Mine is pretty close to the same, but I might put Terrence Jones ahead of Walker.

A lot of this is going to change after the pre-draft workouts though.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#574 » by JamesNaismith » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:03 am

MEDIC wrote:
JamesNaismith wrote:LOL some of you guys are a joke.

The second a kid has a decent game (ie/ Lamb) he's a lotto pick and we need to get him! Lmfao!


It's really embarassing...he's nowhere near lotto talent, he's not even as good as CDR was (remember where he was drafted?). What a mess this franchise would be if some the kids on here made any decisions. Just stop....please.


A few of us have been watching him closely for a number of games now.

It has nothing to do with "one good game". It has to do with what you see him do on the court.

The guy is 6'5", supposedly has a 7'4" wingspan (as per ESPN), can handle, is athletic, has a jumper, etc.

He has all the tools to be a good SG in the NBA.

He's the closest thing to Kerry Kittles (in terms of measurements) that I've seen since Kerry Kittles. Lamb's wingspan is actually 4" wider than Kittles (if SI is correct).


Funny that no analysts support this hype you feel.

Lamb would be lucky to be a 11th man on the TWolves.



I really wish there were a sticky for all the ridiculous Rap fans put on supposed "potential". This is considered a weak draft yet this kid is NOWHERE on the radar. Its like Rap fans watch 3-4 games and suddenly they have NBA scout level ability to see hidden talent lol there is REASON everyone has been saying ALL year how Kemba is an one man show, now with your (amongst other rap fans) acute eyes...it turns out there was an even better version of Thabo there just only you guys picked up on it....well done! Lol come on. I'm trying not to be a jerk about it but you guys are really too much...I can't imagine which other unsung "lotto pick" would of suddenly been discovered at another major school if he had helped his team win....just terrible.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#575 » by fame » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:04 am

What's with the sudden infatuation with Lamb? I guess like usual the tournament does wonders for certain players.

His defense is average at best, and I would go as far to say that it's below average. I have no idea why some of you are comparing him to an elite defender like Thabo. The kid is rail thin and would get pushed around by the stronger 2 guards in the NBA. Let alone the undersized jitterbug shooting guards that would blow by him everytime, Since when did he become such a defensive force??? Demar would demolish him in my opinon, with his combo of strength, skill, and athletism.

He might have long arms, but I'm having a tough time believing that he has a 7-foot-4 wingspan.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#576 » by Prestige » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:09 am

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:So now that the NCAA tourney is over, the board for me looks like:

1. Irving

2. Williams

3. Kanter
4. Valanciunas
5. Walker

The number(s) 3-5 could be arranged in any order as far as I'm concerned.

EDIT: This assumes Barnes and Sullinger are not in this year's draft.


Personally I believe after workouts it will be:

1. Irving
2. Williams
3. P Jones
4. Kanter
5.Walker
6.Knight
7. Jonas V
8.T Jones

Assuming as well that Sullinger and Barnes will be out.

I think P Jones, Walker and Knight will all rise in the workouts.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#577 » by MEDIC » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:13 am

All we have to go by at this point is what's been written:

He has a scorer's mentality and uses his extremely long arms (7'4 wingspan) to finish over bigger defenders.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/100189/jeremy-lamb

Personally, I would in no way suggest that we use a lottery pick on the guy. I would take a chance on him by using a late 1st rounder (on skillset & physical attributes alone).

He's got "upside".
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#578 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:14 am

MEDIC wrote:I just checked the measurement history on DX. Nobody around the 6'5" range has anything close to a 7'4" wingspan.

Lebron James wingspan is almost 4" shorter than Lamb's.

That's crazy.


I think I'm such a fan because if you asked me to describe the ideal SG I'd be describing somebody close to Lamb. I'll take length on the perimeter over height any day, though he's tall enough, because he should be able to move his feet faster but still bother people. And his offence is so smooth, he uses his length on both ends. I don't see how he isn't an NBA SG in body/game and I don't see limitations which is huge this year. Sure he could use another year at college but so could everybody.

And, yeah, some of us have been watching Lamb throughout the tourneys and posting about him. I don't think anybody expected him to declare so he's not on the radar, but every analyst who's actually doing the games raves about him, too.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#579 » by Prestige » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:18 am

Lamb is physically way too weak for the NBA right now. To me he seems like Austin Daye but not as polished. He's got the size and shooting stroke going for him right now but not much else.

I think next year he could be a borderline lottery type pick if he bulks up, works on his ball handling, and starts to drive the ball more often. He'll probably get some more space coming off screens once he establishes that he can drive the ball.
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Re: Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread, Part 6 

Post#580 » by JamesNaismith » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:20 am

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:
MEDIC wrote:I just checked the measurement history on DX. Nobody around the 6'5" range has anything close to a 7'4" wingspan.

Lebron James wingspan is almost 4" shorter than Lamb's.

That's crazy.


I think I'm such a fan because if you asked me to describe the ideal SG I'd be describing somebody close to Lamb. I'll take length on the perimeter over height any day, though he's tall enough, because he should be able to move his feet faster but still bother people. And his offence is so smooth, he uses his length on both ends. I don't see how he isn't an NBA SG in body/game and I don't see limitations which is huge this year. Sure he could use another year at college but so could everybody.

And, yeah, some of us have been watching Lamb throughout the tourneys and posting about him. I don't think anybody expected him to declare so he's not on the radar, but every analyst who's actually doing the games raves about him, too.


Right?!

The next Kerry Kittles, better Thabo etc etc is that's why they project him in the lotto next year right? Oh yeah, they don't.


Just stop.

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