Draft Thread Continued. 2011 part two...

[nate33]

Didn't see the game but what a wild story.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bis ... ombo-5902/

That's pretty ridiculous that he led the ECB in blocks, per minute rebounds, FG% and is among the leaders in FT attempts given his age and experience. Most of those stats translate well into the NBA.

We don't know enough yet to really rank him, but I sure hope EG does his research. On paper, he sounds like Ben Wallace but with more offensive aptitude. Hell, he sounds a little like Dwight Howard if he can put on some more muscle.

I also like that he can play in Europe and continue to develop if there's a lockout.

It might be a reach to take him with our first pick (unless we slip to #7 or something) but I wouldn't mind trading up from #18 and trying to grab him with our second pick. I'd also explore a pick swap with Utah. If we pick 3rd or so and end up taking Irving because he's the BPA, Utah might trade us the #6 and #12 to get our #3 and #18. It would be pretty sweet if Barnes is still on the board at #6 and Biyombo is there at #12.

[closg00]

Anyone else catch Biyombo in the Nike Hoop Summit they showed on comcast sports yesterday? I'd have to say he lived up to the hype, and if anything looked even more athletic and explosive than in those grainy youtube clips. He was just a man amongst boys (and yes his age is an issue, he looked maybe 20-22 to me, but I'm just guessing) on a World team that didn't have a lot of weapons besides him.

My quick impression on him physically is: a young Elvin Hayes on steroids. Obviously he's not ever going to have the kind of shooting touch that E had, but again that physical presence on the boards and in the paint, fluidity of movement, and shotblocker's timing that was very impressive against a US team that has a lot of skilled, smart, athletic players.

Draftexpress has him up at #8 in their latest... pretty good for a guy that a lot of us weren't sure was an actual human being or some Sidd Finch-like work of fiction about a month ago.

8TH??? what has Givony been smoking? I did tune-into the Summit after Raf's tip, Biyombo is this-years Serpahin with the over blown hype mocking him up to 8??? Biyombo played against no-one of-size and like Kevin, he's raw as hell. Good, he can block some shots and throw it down........just like Thabeet. Pass.

[nate33]

Seraphin might go #8 in this draft.

[REDardWIZskin]

I don't see how Singleton is any different from Booker. Seems like a redundant pick to me.

As I've said before, you can't make up for the lack of toughness in our primary rotation by adding a bunch of redundant tough role players. The problem is that none of Blatche, Lewis or McGee are tough. A 2nd unit of Singleton, Booker and Seraphin won't change that fact. They'll just come in and clang perimeter shots.

Exactly, last yr was the draft of physical ability and toughness. This yr we should emphasize skill. I've been advocating a long look and stretch 4/5's with the ATL pick and the early 2nd round pick. Even if we keep blatche we still will need a 2nd unit guy to hit the pick and pop jumper that Yi has kinda been able to hit.
T Thompkins, J. Harper, Mirotic, K. Benson and J. Johnson will all be there at 18 tho some may be gone by the 2nd rd pick. There are so many good guards in the second round and also the play of Crawford decreases the need for a guard with the first 3 picks if we intend to resign nick. we could either buy a late pick to select someone who impressed in a workout or sign a FA guard who didn't get drafted. Hopefully C. Jenkins I think he's a gem in this draft. A prolific scorer with NBA size who also averaged 5 assists and 4 rebounds.
If we keep our picks I'd want a Post 4/5, a SF, and a 4/5 with range. All front court IMO b/c Yi is expendable Hamady is a ? and many think Blatche is on his way out of here

[Dat2U]

I just wanna know how much Givony is getting paid for Biyombo advertisement.

If he's 21 or 22 (as rumored) then frankly he should be absolutely dominating 18 yr old kids if he had any ability whatsoever.

I wouldn't be surprised if the hype dies down before the draft. Obviously the draftniks need something to talk about right now since the NCAA's ended and he's it.

Seraphin wouldn't go anywhere close to 8th in this draft. And if teams knew what they know about him now, he probably wouldn't have gone 17th last year.

[DallasShalDune]

No more Barnes or Perry Jones. Going back to UNC and Baylor, per Chad Ford's twitter. We better pick 1st or 2nd, or we won't get any talent out of this year's draft.

[Benjammin]

Supposedly Barnes is likely staying. http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/stat ... 853633024#

Edit: no Perry Jones either??? Son of a...

Guys are totally overrating the lockout/no season potential. It's not like agents won't take care of top ten picks for a year or so. Oh well.

This draft is becoming historically bad. I mean, pass your turn bad.

1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams (assuming he declares)
3. Enes Kanter (mystery man)
4. Jonas V (can't coach height and length)
5. Kemba Walker (not a fit for the Wizards)
6. Jan Vesely (have to put someone here)
7. Brandon Knight (another PG)
8. Terrence Jones (nice pick at 15 or 16 in a reasonable draft)
9. Bismack Biyombo (going up the draft charts like a rocket)


Sullinger and Barnes would both go top 5 or 6 in this draft (Perry Jones likely also), which even with them would not be strong. So really hope for Irving for trade bait or Derrick Williams. Otherwise I would be completely open to packaging the pick for a talented younger player in the NBA already.

[Prestige]

Supposedly Barnes is likely staying. http://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/stat ... 853633024#

This draft is becoming really painful.

1. Kyrie Irving
2. Derrick Williams (assuming he declares)
3. Enes Kanter (mystery man)
4. Perry Jones (very talented, big risk)
5. Jonas V (can't coach height and length)
6. Kemba Walker (not a fit for the Wizards)
7. Jan Vesely (have to put someone here)
8. Brandon Knight (another PG)
9. Terrence Jones (nice pick at 15 or 16 in a reasonable draft)
10. Bismack Biyombo (going up the draft charts like a rocket)

Sullinger and Barnes would both go top 5 or 6 in this draft, which even with them would not be strong. So really hope for Irving for trade bait or Derrick Williams. Otherwise I would be completely open to packaging the pick for a talented younger player in the NBA already.

Take out Perry Jones too, it was announced today he's going back . Gentlemen, as a fellow tanking team we all share the pain. Looks like this was the wrong year to get a high pick.

At least you guys have Wall from last year though.

[Benjammin]

^^^
Yeah, I edited my post.

[Ruzious]

I just wanna know how much Givony is getting paid for Biyombo advertisement.

If he's 21 or 22 (as rumored) then frankly he should be absolutely dominating 18 yr old kids if he had any ability whatsoever.

I wouldn't be surprised if the hype dies down before the draft. Obviously the draftniks need something to talk about right now since the NCAA's ended and he's it.

It seems somewhat reminiscent of when Yi was being highly heralded in the pre draft camps - and Danny Ainge presumably would have picked him at 6 - if he hadn't worked out the KG and Ray Allen moves. I still say Kevin McHale turned Ainge from a mediocre GM into perhaps a future HOFer.

[mhd]

Ugh!!! No Perry Jones or Barnes?


This draft is basically Derrick WIlliams or bust. If we had the 2nd pick and Williams was off the board, I'd take Irving as BPA unless we got a godfather offer.

I'd consider taking Biyombo for the sake of watching Buck and Phil try and pronounce his name.


Edit, forgot about Kanter, who I'd take at 2.

[DMVleGeND]

NOOOO!!!!! Why is Perry Jones staying in school? I was a big fan of his too! I was a fan of Kanter too until doc said something about his "small hands." And now it appears that Barnes is staying in school.

THAT'S IT! If we don't get D-Will, TRADE THE PICK!

[DMVleGeND]

We need to get as many 2012 picks as we can. That class is looking all-time great!

[mhd]

If we have a chance to trade Irving to LAC for the Minny unprotected 2012 pick, I'd do it in a second.

[Hoopalotta]

While we're slathering ourselves in doom, watch the CBA make it so that you need to be two years after highschool to declare for the draft. That would destroy the 2012 draft too.

[tontoz]

If Barnes and Jones aren't coming out and they change the rules so that players can't declare after their freshman year.....

[pcbothwel]

This is getting kinda rediculous with Barnes and Jones. We need to get the #1 overall pick or get the hell out of there. Ugghh, We need to trade our ATL pick or Blatche to get a pick next year, anything short of 2 1st round pick in next years draft would be an utter failure for this team.

[fishercob]

Meh. While it's far from ideal that an already thin draft is being watered down more, I'm not too concerned that we're going to miss out on a super high pick next year. The season will be heavily truncated if it happens at all -- and we'll still suck. Barnes or Jones or Sully may yet be Wizards.

[pancakes3]

true that, fish. i can definitely see us playing sub-.500 ball until feb-ish. people will call for flip's head, to trade blatche, and hiring a fluid coach for mcgee. more of the same. more of the same. on the other hand, i can see us really sneaking up on people with a young, fast, cohesive unit (who RAINS 3's, 3 a game for young, 3 a game for shard, and 1 a game for wall). it'll be feast or famine next season. i know, bold predictions right? we'll either win, or we'll lose.

[Hoopalotta]

Meh. While it's far from ideal that an already thin draft is being watered down more, I'm not too concerned that we're going to miss out on a super high pick next year. The season will be heavily truncated if it happens at all -- and we'll still suck. Barnes or Jones or Sully may yet be Wizards.

Pending what happens for us in this year's draft, I wouldn't consider that as being particularly good returns on two year's of tanking, though.