Official Transaction Ideas thread

[LApwnd]

this isn't a video game man, talent on paper dont translate to what owners/gm's want, Pau by then will be 30+ making 20+mill/yr, he isn't going to carry NJ to anything and Prov could easily find some other team willing to give him young talent/picks.

You're dead wrong and you're missing the point entirely. What do you think the Nets will get in trade for a Deron Williams who says, "I will only sign an extension with the Lakers"? They would get half season rental offers from contenders like the Mavs and that's it. Prokhorov took a huge gamble in trading for Deron this year with the thought that by next year's trading deadline the Nets would be sitting strong with a top 4 seed in the East and the idea of Deron being their Brooklyn savior .... well, sorry but I doubt the Nets are even in the #8 spot in the East by next year's deadline and Deron will know that there is no real winning future for him in Jersey or Brooklyn by then and could demand a trade to the Lakers very easily.

am I? If I were prohorok, I rather take NOTHING then to have to take on Pau and pay a 33 yr old 20+mill/yr when the team wont be going nowhere either way.....Melo forced his way to NY because NY could SIGN him straight up, LA can't sign Howard or Deron straight up so either guy can make all the threats they want, their respective team has more leverage over both guys then what happened with Melo.....had NY not been such fools and waited it out Melo and his lil whinny ass would've signed the extension, he can say its "not about the money" all he wants but at the end of the day losing 20+mill over the life of this ext, you could tell his stance started weakening towards the deadline but unfortunately for NY, Dolan is an idiot owner and gave into Den every demand.

[Jetset]

Explain to me how Deron is more likely than Paul. NJ just traded for Deron and intend to be serious contenders for Howard whether, it'd be February or the summer when his services become available. Mark my words, If NJ fails to acquire Howard then Deron will be a F.A. in the summer. There are no trades that will happen, and there will be no trades with us especially if we get Howard, no one's going to want to help us out. If the Lakers want to trade away Gasol and try to sign Deron to a discount then all well and fine but a trade with NJ isn't going to happen and should be erased out your memory bank.

The reason Paul is easier to get is because his knee is still somewhat of a concern and that lessens his value to that of lower than Derons. He still hasn't fully recovered imo (I think he'll be fine though). Paul could actually be had this summer (pending there's no lockout) or whenever trades are available and that automatically makes us a lock for Howard coming here. You assuming that Howard just has the Lakers on his list is ridiculous as I'm sure he has his options open and hasn't limited himself on just an aging L.A. squad. Assuming the list Paul had was true, if he had a problem with Kobe then why was the Lakers on that list of destinations he'd like to go to? Usually if you don't like someone then you don't go and try and team up with that person.

[Doormatt]

idk what kind of FO Golden State has, but a gasol--curry+lee deal would be AMAZING. i joked about it in todays game thread, but i think it would be my dream scenario. let GS dump some contracts on us, as long as curry is included in the deal, im good.

honestly, lee makes gasol look like hakeem on defense, but he brings the hustle every possession, and can score with versatility.

[blackham9258]

Lakers get the leagues best low-post offensive player who just turned 26, and a solid SG/SF in CJ. Jazz commit to complete rebuilding and get hopefully the upside of a young center while taking on the injury risk that Bynum has.

Is this a fair deal? I believe straight up if both players were completely healthy you don't trade Bynum for Jefferson, although its not a terrible swap because Jefferson is also a stud. But I think if you ad a 24 yr SF scorer, and you consider the cronic knee injury of Bynum... I believe this is fair value, and perhaps a huge risk by the Jazz if Bynum can never stay healthy.

Thoughts

[LA Forever]

No.

[Edrees]

lol al jefferson? no thanks

[That Nicka]

F no

[Doormatt]

replace miles with millsap and bynum with gasol and you got yourself a deal!

[Wavy Q]

Lakers don't want to trade Bynum, especially for no D Jefferson.

[D Nice]

[Dr Aki]

so u got this idea rejected on the trade board and hoping you're going to get better responses here?

[The_Trade_Seer]

If the Jazz want Bynum, I'd consider:

Bynum, Blake, 2nd round picks and cash for Al Jefferson, Devin Harris and the higher 1st round pick of either theirs or the Nets

I might even take just Al and the pick if we knew for sure we could get Kemba Walker with it

[Jajwanda]

All you really need is better guard play. All three guards next to Kobe should be replaced.

[LApwnd]

All you really need is better guard play. All three guards next to Kobe should be replaced.

easier said then done....Fish won't be replaced by mgmt, it'll be on Fish term

[Cavemold]

Would you consider tradying bynum? For Mozgov and ty lawson . I think our guard postion depth would DRASTICALLY IMPROVE. And mozgov could start by simple rebounding and playing tough D. We could keep LO rested. Im sick of watching bynum on a tight rope. It would be nice not worry if bynum going break a leg. And we need some sort of future at the guard spot. Blake not the answer and fisher is all about done. Any ideas? Maybe we could get dwight but that wouldnt fix our guard depth issue. We would probally have to add draft picks but since when do we draft well?

[tugs]

Would you consider tradying bynum? For Mozgov and ty lawson . I think our guard postion depth would DRASTICALLY IMPROVE. And mozgov could start by simple rebounding and playing tough D. We could keep LO rested. Im sick of watching bynum on a tight rope. It would be nice not worry if bynum going break a leg. And we need some sort of future at the guard spot. Blake not the answer and fisher is all about done. Any ideas? Maybe we could get dwight but that wouldnt fix our guard depth issue. We would probally have to add draft picks but since when do we draft well?

I remember the JKidd deal not pushing through because NJ wanted Bynum. Management had high hopes on Drew and it seems it's paying off. No way they'll let Drew go for Mozgov.

As for Lawson? I doubt it. DEN will definitely reject it. A more feasible deal with DEN may include Felton, but not Lawson.

[Jetset]

If we're able to deal with Denver then it's an opportunity that should be taken without hesitation.

DEN Trades: Nene, Raymond Felton
LAL Trades: Andrew Bynum, Steve Blake, Derrick Caracter, Two 2011 2nd round picks, Future 1st
DEN Gets: Bynum, Blake, Caracter, Two 2011 2nd round picks, Future 1st
LAL Gets: Nene, Raymond Felton

Denver gets Bynum who would fit in great with the team, cheaper back-up PG, the big man they've lusted for since the draft last season, two picks in the upcoming draft, and of course the future first.

L.A. gets the 6'11" Nene and a starting PG that we desperately need. This also moves Fisher to the bench. While we will be giving up our height advantage and while Nene isn't the rebound fiend that Bynum is, this is the best trade that we can make involving Bynum, that doesn't include trading Bynum for Howard. This is also the only trade that'll leave us in contention for Howard imo and Orlando may want Nene more than the injury prone Bynum anyway.

Of course only way Denver would look to trade him is if they know Nene isn't going to sign a long term extension, which I think would have a lot to do with what they do in the playoffs. Denver may not want to do the trade in fear of making us stronger, but I believe that deal would be too good to refuse.

PG: Felton, Fisher
SG: Bryant, Barnes
SF: Artest, Odom
PF: Gasol, Martin
C: Nene, Gadzuric

D12 Dwight Ho....whoneedshim. We could win it all next year with the above roster imho. I put Odom at the SF position because I think our team would be greater if we moved Odom behind Artest and and just signed a serviceable PF so we wouldn't have to play Gasol for extended minutes. Kenyon Martin wouldn't be a bad fit.

[tugs]

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Lakers 2011-2012 roster looking like the Bulls 2010-2011 roster. (LA Nuggets=Chicago Jazz)

I like that line up but I don't see LO playing SF. He creates a lot of mismatches playing a lot of PF and sometimes C and having him and KMart may be redundant.

[Jetset]

^^^

Lakers 2011-2012 roster looking like the Bulls 2010-2011 roster. (LA Nuggets=Chicago Jazz)

I like that line up but I don't see LO playing SF. He creates a lot of mismatches playing a lot of PF and sometimes C and having him and KMart may be redundant.

I don't think he'll be that bad at SF tbh. I believe he could be our Point Forward (ala LeBron) coming off the bench and we could sign someone else who fits more of the mold of a PF like Martin as our interior defender. Odom does create mismatches but with the passing and ball handling ability of Odom I just think it'd be a waste of his skills to keep him at PF when we can have him at the 3 and someone along the lines of Martin playing the 4. Plus Odom isn't a great post defender imo

[Jajwanda]

We've tried Odom at SF many times in the past and he bombs unless he plays next to a pure shooter at PF.

A replacement for Shannon Brown, plus more youthful depth is really all that can be done at the moment, unless there's some kind of elaborate trade. As for a Brown replacement if Blake is still going to be around and say you trade a couple 2nds to select a quick PG (maybe even keep Trey Johnson), you need an athletic SG that can score and defend. He has to be able to create some offense since neither Blake nor Barnes can do it. Rodney Stuckey is one guy that fit the bill. I just wish he could shoot the damn ball from 3 point range but he can still improve. If they can turn Ariza into a 33% shooter they can turn Stuckey into one.