How do you fix this team?

[LyricalRico]

^ I've always been an Adelman fan, but I'm not sure he wouldn't have the same problems that Flip is having adjusting to a rebuilding situation.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Sound the chorus...

Adelman, Adelman, Adelman, Adelman.

Looking back on it, not nabbing Adelman and sticking with Eddie for ten more games might have been the lost opportunity that led us toward the depth.

It's not often that life presents you with a second chance.

So Ted, please don't miss out on this opportunity. Flip is not the guy for this group. Adelman is.

[Zonkerbl]

Not right before a lockout. C'mon guys, think.

[Benjammin]

Not after a lockout either. Unless this team acquires a very significant piece like a Dwight Howard the next coach should be in the Tom Thibodeau mold, bright, hungry, and energetic. But realistically I think there will be an abbreviated season next year and that Flip will coach during that time. After that, it's anyone's guess.

Guys like these might fit that description of a Thibodeau type.


Head Coaching Candidates

1. Mike Budenholzer-San Antonio Spurs assistant
2. Elston Turner—Houston Rockets assistant
3. Ron Adams—Chicago Bulls assistant
4. Dave Joerger—Memphis Grizzlies assistant, CBA/NBDL experience
5. Bill Laimbeer—Minnesota Timberwolves assistant coach, head coaching experience WNBA
6. David Blatt—vast international experience, head coach Dinamo Moscow

[Dat2U]

Adelman? Really, another retread? Is Adelman even significantly better than Flip?

That would be such an uninspiring hire, much like the Flip hire was.

I totally agree with Ben. We need to think out the box. Look for the next Thibodeau (who we had in our grasp, uh thanks Eddie!). My preference is a defensive minded coach since defense wins championships. My three favorites at the moment are Laimbeer (who really deserves a shot btw), Budenholzer & Joerger.

[walltotherescue]

I would say to establish a defensive presence first and foremost. Right now there are too many scorers not enough defenders. The Wiz should seek out more Battier and Posey types. Another big or two that can provide good help defense would be excellent.

[nate33]

Adelman? Really, another retread? Is Adelman even significantly better than Flip?

That would be such an uninspiring hire, much like the Flip hire was.

I totally agree with Ben. We need to think out the box. Look for the next Thibodeau (who we had in our grasp, uh thanks Eddie!). My preference is a defensive minded coach since defense wins championships. My three favorites at the moment are Laimbeer (who really deserves a shot btw), Budenholzer & Joerger.

Agreed.

Adelman might have made sense back when EJ was fired and we were looking to win with our veterans. But now that we've built a brand new team, I think we should be looking for up-and-comers, not retreads. It seems like going from Flip to Adelman is a lateral move.

[no D in Hibachi]

Adelman? Really, another retread? Is Adelman even significantly better than Flip?

That would be such an uninspiring hire, much like the Flip hire was.

I totally agree with Ben. We need to think out the box. Look for the next Thibodeau (who we had in our grasp, uh thanks Eddie!). My preference is a defensive minded coach since defense wins championships. My three favorites at the moment are Laimbeer (who really deserves a shot btw), Budenholzer & Joerger.

Agreed.

Adelman might have made sense back when EJ was fired and we were looking to win with our veterans. But now that we've built a brand new team, I think we should be looking for up-and-comers, not retreads. It seems like going from Flip to Adelman is a lateral move.

It's less than a lateral move because the Wiz still owe Flip $10M for the next two season. What are they going to just bite the bullet and eat $10M to sign Adelman to a contract which will need to be at least $5M per? That's just incredibly bad business because, as previously stated, the increase from Flip to Rick will be marginal, at best, with this team.

[Ruzious]

It does look like EG and Flip both get 1 more year - partly because not much is expected for next season. I do expect that next season will be the last for both of them.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Flip was a well-respected coach whose teams averaged 48 wins before his tenure as Wizard coach.

Next season he will have talent on par with his KG/Wally/Nesterovic/Billups or Hudson or Brandon/Peeler and Joe Smith days. Those were playoff teams that generally averaged more than 50 regular season wins. I see no reason for the Wizards to not win a lot more than 23 games. I think 37-43 wins should be expected due to Wall getting better and with this draft adding what should be more talent than even now.

[Ruzious]

I can't say we're on par talent-wise - considering KG was arguably the greatest PF in the history of the earth.

[dobrojim]

I can't say we're on par talent-wise - considering KG was arguably the greatest PF in the history of the earth.

Mailman or Big E

[DCZards]

I can't say we're on par talent-wise - considering KG was arguably the greatest PF in the history of the earth.

Mailman or Big E

Barkley claims the Mailman was Numero Uno. Big E would probably be more highly-regarded and get more props if he didn't have such a rotten attitude/personality.

[dobrojim]

any of them are arguable I would concede

one does wonder how good Malone would have
been without Stockton. And his personality
on the court wasn't what many would consider
admirable. That said, he's number 2 all time points.

Without Greendale to remind us, we might have
forgotten that E didn't really need a backup player.
He could just play the whole game.

KG was/is more skilled than either but not
really a 'power' forward, more of a stretch 4.

[Nivek]

My "Rushmore" of PFs:

- Tim Duncan
- Kevin Garnett
- Karl Malone
- Charles Barkley

Honorable mentions to Pettit, Dirk, Elvin Hayes, McHale.

[dobrojim]

but The Big Fundamental isn't really a PF no matter
how they try to describe him. He's a C.

Ralph Sampson wasn't a PF either not that anyone
was talking about him.

[Nivek]

I knew someone would argue that Duncan is really a center.

I agree to a point. On the other hand, for the first 8-9 years of his career, the Spurs had a true center in the starting lineup -- Duncan for the first few years, followed by Nesterovic. No question that Duncan played some center during those years, and that he's been a center the past few years. He's been a PF/C -- whichever the Spurs needed him to be.

If I had to take him off my "Rushmore" of PFs, I'd replace him with Dirk.

[dobrojim]

dirk's a SF

<runs ducking for cover>

I'm KIDDING!

[DCZards]

I knew someone would argue that Duncan is really a center.

I agree to a point. On the other hand, for the first 8-9 years of his career, the Spurs had a true center in the starting lineup -- Duncan for the first few years, followed by Nesterovic. No question that Duncan played some center during those years, and that he's been a center the past few years. He's been a PF/C -- whichever the Spurs needed him to be.

If I had to take him off my "Rushmore" of PFs, I'd replace him with Dirk.

Dirk over Big E? I don't know, nivek. In addition to avg. 20 plus pts. for his career, the E averaged over 12 rebs and 2 blks. per game. Those are the kind of "big man stats" that I want from my PF...stats that Dirk doesn't come close to matching.

[Ruzious]

If we classify Duncan as a center and Barkley as a small forward (He started his career as a PF, but he was the 3 with guys like Armon Gilliam and Tom Chambers at PF), I might go with these 4:
1. KG
2. Karl Malone
3. Elvin Hayes
4. Bob McAdoo

The first 2 are easy. Then it probably makes the most sense to go with McHale and Dirk, but I grew up watching Hayes and McAdoo dominate their era - so they're my sentimental picks. I think Gasol is in the process of earning consideration.