Official Transaction Ideas thread

[The_Trade_Seer]

AI-in-LA? Are you as dumb as Allen Iverson? Go back and read the post again ... I said, quite clearly and eloquently, the LAKERS NEED A PG HERE ARE TWO OPTIONS IN HOW THEY CAN GET A PG!!! Option 1: The brandon jennings trade and Option 2: the Ricky Rubio trade.

Who am I David Kahn??? Why would I want to do both those trades?? You should stop eating Sugar DumDum cereal every morning my man.

My bad, I didn't read your whole post ... I just saw the first goof-ball trade and thought it was all downhill from there. I stand by the statement that your trades are horrible though ... the 76'ers are not trading Iggy and Evan and a #1 for Pau ... silly idead. The Bucks would NEVER get Iggy and (2) #1's for Brandon ... another silly idea. You might be smarter than David Kahn though

As for your immense ridicule of my ideas ...

YOU'RE THE ONE WANTING TO TRADE GASOL AND BYNUM in a deal for Dwight??????? Really, I'm really supposed to believe that trade??? Am I supposed to take it seriously even for a second???? Because 6 player for 7 player trades happen all the time in the NBA??? Stop being an idiot and come up with something that's atleast plausible.

That is the only plausible way to get Dwight dude. It's either Bynum and Pau straight to the Magic for Dwight, Jameer, Bass or it's Pau to the Wiz and then Bynum and the picks we get to the Wiz for Dwight.

I think almost EVERYONE on this board would do those trades.

The only faults in my trades were simply wondering if the Bucks might trade Brandon Jennings because he has fallen out of favor with Scott Skiles AND the Bucks GM Hammond really liked Evan Turner in last year's draft.

No, your faults were overvaluing Brandon ridiculously and overvaluing Pau insanely ...

But, we can just waste everyone's time and play the AI-IN-LA FAKE-TRADE GAME ...

Right, like the one where I called Kwame and Critt for Pau, or the one where I nailed the Vince Carter to Nets trade ... I'm pretty spot on when it comes to trade values dude.

Oh ... and I didn't even hammer you for your ridiculous and insane Odom trade ... you're ripping me for trading and always hurt Bynum and a declining Pau for superstar Dwight and tough improving Brandon Bass but you're offering Odom AND cash AND a #1 for a redundant Martell Webster and "sucks in Europe" Rubio .... PUKE

[The_Trade_Seer]

Im in the camp that thinks the Lakers should retool, not rebuild so this is what i propose as the first step in that process..

• Cleveland Trades: Daniel Gibson, 2011 2nd Round Pick (OKC), $1 Million Cash
• LA Lakers Trade: Devin Ebanks, 2013 1st Round Pick (LA Lakers- Protected), Matt Barnes (Optional if LA wants to shed his salary)

Gives LA a combo guard off the bench that is efficient on/off the ball, can provide an instant scoring punch, has proven to be a great shooter/clutch player, can defend other quick/athletic point guards and is entering his prime.

I actually like Daniel Gibson but he is NOT a combo guard and is to small to guard SG'S ... he is a shoot first PG and that's it. Delonte West would be much, much, much better. Even NATE ROBINSON would be better and we would be able to get him for a song if he wasn't in OKC ... he just sits the bench there but I doubt they would want to trade with us.

He would be more than capable of playing the role of Derek Fisher for the next 10 years and is on a reasonable contract with a style of play that perfectly complements the triangle and LA's roster.

This is a valid point ... if we keep running the tri ... if not, he is a huge ddefensive liability and a shot chucking PG.

The 2nd Round Pick and $1 Million allow further flexibility in adding immediate talent THIS year. He can sufficiently replace Shannon Brown (who is looking for a payday) while filling in for the declining Derek Fisher and Steve Blake.

He can't play the 2 like Shannon can.

What do you guys think?

Not a bad idea and I'd like him as a back-up PG and needed 3pt shooter, but I wouldn't expect any real SG mins out of him.

[The_Trade_Seer]

Nolan Smith is a combo guard. He can play both PG and SG offensively and defensively IMO.

I envision Knight and Kobe starting together one day with Nolan Smith backing up both spots.

Blake starting and Fisher as the backup SG would be great for mentoring reasons.

Knight could learn how to be an NBA PG from Blake, and Fisher could teach Smith how to be an NBA combo guard.

Nolan Smith would completely fortify the defensive PG duties (with Knight).

I just think he'd be a great utility guard in the mold of Bobby Jackson and Jason Terry ... only taller (solid 6'3 based on observation only).

Brandon Knight, Nolan Smith, Blatche, Rashard Lewis and the hopeful emergence of Ebanks represent GREAT value for Walton and Gasol ... it aslo completely revamps our PG position (defensively).

I like Nolan as a backup PG but not as a SG at all ... rather have Lacedarius Dunn even if he's a bit of a headcase and teams might shy away from him ... he's athletic and can shoot the lights out.

[Gus McCrae]

Just to add I missed the fact that we'd get the #4 and #18 pick in the Wizards trade along with Rashard and Blatche. I thought it was just Rashard and Blatche. But I'm down with that trade...doubt the wiz are though.

[The_Trade_Seer]

It's the Wiz fans that came up with the idea and think it would be a great trade ... both Jetset and I think the #18 may be held back realistically but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not.

The Wiz would basically be trading Blatche and the #4 for Pau and Walton which is fair by all accounts .... they then would be trading Shard for Blake and Ebanks and including their #18 pick to get us to accept Shard's horrible contract ... another fair trade by all accounts.

I'm being swayed a little to the "Nolan Smith at #18 would be a good pick" where at first I thought it was ridiculous. I still think #18 is a little high for Nolan.

Also if we end up flipping the #4 and Bynum for Dwight and somehow don't get Jameer back we are need a legit starting quality PG and I would rather have Reggie Jackson over Smith in that role I think. OR we could trade Odom to the Nuggs for Felton and the #22 and we could nab Jackson at #22 and draft a Ken Faried at #18 to replace Odom ... lots of options.

[ItzTuan]

hi lakers fan,

New member here but never post a topic or comment.

If we do decide to trade, who would you trade and for who?

what yall think of jr. smith coming to the lakers?

[hoops_32]

I'd only do the Wizards trade if we got Dwight Howard. Instead of the #4 pick and Bynum for Howard I'd make it the #18 pick,Bynum and future picks. That way with the #4 pick we could add a PG like Walker or Knight. Those two trades would greatly improve our team giving us athleticism and a better bench. We would be able to win now and in the future.

Walker or Knight/Fisher
Kobe/Brown
Artest/Lewis
Odom/Blatche
Howard

[ItzTuan]

and lets be realistic too.

[Jetset]

Trade thread bro.

[ItzTuan]

can u link me? new here so still learning the ropes

[The_Trade_Seer]

We would all LOVE to have Kemba and Dwight but that's not very realistic ... we'll probably need to trade Bynum the #4 and the #18 to get Dwight and Jameer which I'd be cool with ... or at best Bynum and the #4 for Dwight which means we could grab a PG at the #18 like Smith or Jackson which would be alright too.

[The_Trade_Seer]

I love J.R. Smith but not sure he fits on these Lakers ... Bulls and Knicks seems like better fits ...

[Jajwanda]

Any players you guys can think of that we can take on for a TPE that would both be useful to the Lakers as well as come with a pick (such as the Kirk Hinrich deal a year ago where the Wizards absorbed the contract and received a pick)? Perhaps through that method the Lakers can try to get into the late lottery or somewhere in the 10-20 range to get some youth and a useful veteran.

Remember if no trades are made the team has three needs:

- A lighter SF, that can shoot, and cut off the ball
- A true backup SG who can do it all
- A strong defensive PG that can make good decisions, penetrate, and shoot the 3. Doesn't have to be an exceptional player.

There are many ways of acquiring the players necessary for such a deal. There are teams that won't have enough cap room to offer for say Marc Gasol but would gladly give up a player for our TPE that may be useful as well as give us a draft pick to get the guy that they truly want. Lottery pick+medium level player versus Marc Gasol is a big difference.

[spree8]

Hey what does everyone think of this trade.. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1111721&p=27940207#p27940207

Nelson/Fisher
Kobe/Shannon
Granger/Artest
Odom/Turk
Howard

..not a complete offseason idea, but just 1 four team deal. Trading Turk alone after the trade could be an option, and of course some free agent signings would be in order.

[Jetset]

Glad to see everyone is on the same boat with the Washington trade, but the Howard thing is a different story. I don't see Howard getting traded this year, let alone before the draft. Everyone knows that there is no offseason this year because of the lockout, so no trade can be done then. It will be at the February trade deadline when Howard finally gets traded after the Magic F.O. tries to make LAL & NJ sweat it out.

Asking for the 4th overall pick and 18th is too much and they'd much rather settle for parting with the lotto pick because there are prospects that they can actually use around that 18th pick. A lot of trades I see involve Bynum+picks, well I'm sure it will have to involve more than that. Which is why I hope we deal Gasol/Ebanks to the Wizards for Blatche/Lewis/4th overall pick. Then at the trade deadline trade Bynum/Blatche/filler/picks for Howard. You've got to admit that looks more enticing than Bynum/picks and way more enticing than the NJ offer of Lopez/picks. Orlando wants cap relief, picks and young talent, the deal I just proposed gives them that. Trading the PG we'd draft is silly and defeats the best part of the Washington deal, we'd finally have a stud PG.

You're not going to cheat Orlando for the value of their franchise player and best C in the league. If Mitch went to the phone and offered just Bynum/picks to Orlando, the half (Please Use More Appropriate Word) Otis Smith would almost suffocate from laughter.

PG: Walker/Fisher
SG: Bryant/Barnes
SF: Artest/Lewis
PF: Odom/Filler
C: Howard/Mohammad


Now this isn't necessarily how I would want the roster to look, because I hope to somehow flip Artest, but it's just a rough draft of where we'd stand after the Orlando trade. We'd be worse at the PF position but better in every other way than the 10-11 Lakers. But any trade involving Gasol will make our future roster worse at the PF position.



Upon reading this, this is uber crazy. But this is a trade thread, let me live dammit.

[Jajwanda]

Any interest in Amir Johnson in case we decide to deal one of the big men later on? I think they can get him with their TPE. Might be the energy PF the team needs off of the bench and a part of that athletic component the team has been missing.

[Jetset]

Couldn't hurt. Throw him in that filler spot and let's go get reclaim our throne.

[Jajwanda]

Maxiell and the Piston lotto pick for our TPE? We've done this before. Cleveland-James Worthy...

Maxiell might even be a good fourth big man to carry or we can deal him mid-year for a long-term SG like Salmons.

[Jase]

I want less knuckleheads on the Lakers, not more.

[Gek]

Things that are pinned are usually important .


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