Portland Wants Kemba; Maybe Not (Update)

fredericklove · Post #41 » by **fredericklove** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:44 pm

Hypz wrote:Kemba > all the trash Portland would offer for the pick.

Exactly man

Even Kemba > Brandon Roy nowadays (ouch)

why would portland sign and trade oden anyways, they might wanna give him one last frickin' chance

MEDIC · Post #42 » by **MEDIC** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 4:53 pm

Of course they want Walker. They see his talent.

Exactly why we should draft him.

Lucky26 · Post #43 » by **Lucky26** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:15 pm

Boobs wrote:Would definitely do a sign and trade where we land Oden. Definitely worth the risk at this point.

Off topic, how does Portland Trailblazers = PDX? Been wondering this for a long time. Always confuses me with Phoenix.

Your Sig got me in some hot water at work here with the ladies. Are you 11 years old?

realball · Post #44 » by **realball** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:19 pm

Miller and Batum for Jose and #5.

Post #45 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:27 pm

If Portland wants Kemba, I don't think they'll have to get up to #5 for him.

Eating a Book · Post #46 » by **Eating a Book** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:48 pm

Lucky26 wrote:
Boobs wrote:Would definitely do a sign and trade where we land Oden. Definitely worth the risk at this point.

Off topic, how does Portland Trailblazers = PDX? Been wondering this for a long time. Always confuses me with Phoenix.

Your Sig got me in some hot water at work here with the ladies. Are you 11 years old?

I think probably the people bothered by the word "boobs" are 11 years old.

Post #47 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:03 pm

The only thing I would do is like Jose + #5 for Batum and #21 then package #21 maybe with Klazia for two 2nd's to either the Lakers, Clippers or Cavs and then target draft 2 of these guys Melcom Lee, Greg Smith, Keith Benson, Vernon Macklin, Justin Holliday or Corey Joesph or take a gamble on Chris "Top Flight" Wright and call it a day.

Without a Calderon for Miller deal in there I don't touch anything from them outside LMA for #5 which obviously isn't going to happen.

ballislife · Post #48 » by **ballislife** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:08 pm

Asking price is Batum and some financial relief... If they can't do that... I wouldn't deal them the #5 pick.

Jimmy The Greek · Post #49 » by **Jimmy The Greek** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:28 pm

dagger wrote:
Jimmy The Greek wrote:I'd personal do a Oden for our pick in a heartbeat. Yes I know he has a season ending injury whenever he tries to swat a fly but still, if he comes back healthy that would be a gamble I'd do in a second.

If you'd do that in a heartbeat, you need a pacemaker.

First of all, he's a sign and trade and that can't be done until July, assuming there is no lockout. To come to Toronto in such a sign and trade, you would have to be high bidder, and guarantee him a long-term contract. Third, he's supposedly not even going to be ready to play in October, and is 50/50 for January.

To all others in this thread - Batum won't be traded to anyone unless Portland gets a star back. The 5th pick or a collection of lesser assets won't cut it. Just forget it.

PDX is the airport code for Portland.

I understand that he can't 'officially' be traded until July but he can be traded before then. The Blazers have a team option for him at $8.8M and have until June 30th to exercise that option. Can't they exercise the option tomorrow and trade him? Don't know, just asking.

I know that is a big price tag for an injury prone big man this is known as a bust - I get that. BUT, if he 'potentially' stays healthy would he not be a good pick-up? I mean the whole draft is 'potential' and this draft isn't good at all...we make it better then it really is.

So my thought is that you trade the #5 pick based on potential and take a chance on Oden's health potential.

TheAlchemist · Post #50 » by **TheAlchemist** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:30 pm

xbl_sucks wrote:The only thing I would do is like Jose + #5 for Batum and #21 then package #21 maybe with Klazia for two 2nd's to either the Lakers, Clippers or Cavs and then target draft 2 of these guys Melcom Lee, Greg Smith, Keith Benson, Vernon Macklin, Justin Holliday or Corey Joesph or take a gamble on Chris "Top Flight" Wright and call it a day.

Without a Calderon for Miller deal in there I don't touch anything from them outside LMA for #5 which obviously isn't going to happen.

I wouldn't sacrifice our pick for getting rid of Calderon, only because there will most definitely be a new amnesty clause in the upcoming CBA. We could probably shed one or two contracts no question asked, since some teams are way above the salary tax.

Anyways, If we had a lower pick, say #10 to #14, I'd trade it for Batum and their pick. But that's not the case and even though this is a weak lottery, whoever we get will definitely be better then Batum. I mean if we stick with the mock drafts. (No Ves or Val)

Jimmy The Greek · Post #51 » by **Jimmy The Greek** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:30 pm

Tenacious_C wrote:
Jimmy The Greek wrote:I'd personal do a Oden for our pick in a heartbeat. Yes I know he has a season ending injury whenever he tries to swat a fly but still, if he comes back healthy that would be a gamble I'd do in a second.

lol.....Some posters don't want Flynn, but they'll gladly take the Human Crutch Greg Oden. Our fan base's fascination with big men is worse than Vince McMahon's.

Well I'm not one of those posters who doesn't want Flynn, I think he's got game and like his upside. I'm also not fascinated with big men (not that there is anything wrong with that) but, I do like rare 7 foot big men like Oden if they could ever reach their potential.

Saciid11 · Post #52 » by **Saciid11** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:42 pm

This is why this team never goes anywhere, we trade a point guard who brings everything this team needs to the table and potential All Star for what Batum? Wesley? injured Oden ? , I rather keep the pick and draft Kemba who will be much better player than people expect.

dagger · Post #53 » by **dagger** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:43 pm

Jimmy The Greek wrote:
I understand that he can't 'officially' be traded until July but he can be traded before then.

No he can't. Players who are free agents on July 1 had to be traded before the deadline in February. And you can't talk to a free agent before July 1.

So it is not possible under the current CBA which runs until June 30.

Kreamy · Post #54 » by **Kreamy** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:53 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:Wes Matthews, C Earl Barron, this year's 20th (Vucevic) and next years first
for
#5 (Kemba) Barbosa, Alabi and next year's 2nd rounder.

Done.

We might as well just keep the pick and draft Alec Burks.

kwamebargnani · Post #55 » by **kwamebargnani** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:53 pm

I'd do Batum + 21 for 5th or anything similar. I'd want Jonas or Knight if we were to keep that pick but at the same time, I'm not really a fan of 16m in 4 yrs for them with good possibilities of them end up being busts.

kwamebargnani · Post #56 » by **kwamebargnani** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:56 pm

And lmao@ Oden. He's a kind of guy you take a chance if you can get him without giving up any significant assets, but for 5th pick? What are you smoking? He might have that kind of value to Portland, but not to any other team in the NBA.

T_Biggums · Post #57 » by **T_Biggums** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 6:59 pm

T_Biggums wrote:
Can someone please tell me what the fascination with Batum is all about?

Kreamy · Post #58 » by **Kreamy** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:00 pm

Any deal with Portland has to start with Batum and them taking one of our bad contracts. Apparently one of the reasons they weren't happy with Cho was because they had a lot of redundancy on the wings with Wallace, Roy, Mathews, Fernandez, Babbit etc. It's not far-fetched to assume that they would move Batum for a top 5-7 pick. If we can dump Calderon and/or Kleiza along the way then Colangelo would really have to consider it. Especially since Batum would be a great fit next to DeRozan with his defense and 3-point shooting.

Kenyon009 · Post #59 » by **Kenyon009** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:42 pm

Batum is an average player this franchise needs stars that can guard the Wades and Lebrons of the NBA. I'd rather get a defensive and possible franchise center in Byiombo than Oden or Batum both average players we are better suited off of the bench. I expect the future SG/SF of this team to be able to put up 20 points a game and defend the best in the game.

Post #60 » by **Mr Swagtastic** » Fri Jun 3, 2011 7:59 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:
xbl_sucks wrote:The only thing I would do is like Jose + #5 for Batum and #21 then package #21 maybe with Klazia for two 2nd's to either the Lakers, Clippers or Cavs and then target draft 2 of these guys Melcom Lee, Greg Smith, Keith Benson, Vernon Macklin, Justin Holliday or Corey Joesph or take a gamble on Chris "Top Flight" Wright and call it a day.

Without a Calderon for Miller deal in there I don't touch anything from them outside LMA for #5 which obviously isn't going to happen.

I wouldn't sacrifice our pick for getting rid of Calderon, only because there will most definitely be a new amnesty clause in the upcoming CBA. We could probably shed one or two contracts no question asked, since some teams are way above the salary tax.

Anyways, If we had a lower pick, say #10 to #14, I'd trade it for Batum and their pick. But that's not the case and even though this is a weak lottery, whoever we get will definitely be better then Batum. I mean if we stick with the mock drafts. (No Ves or Val)

Link of this clause? It would make no sense to me, I mean why would Portland do it to remove Roy and so many teams to x their bad deals i.e. NJ with Outlaw, Orlando with Arenas and so on and so forth. Like many others stated unless Calderon is going to PDX with #5 for Batum then I don't deal with them. 2011 is going to be stacked with wings there are some serious talents there