Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread Part 9

lolwut · Post #1161 » by **lolwut** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:03 pm

...so what do you do when it turns out that TT is not an Ed Davis clone?

"oops"?

Leolovinliberal · Post #1162 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:03 pm

So, an interesting development is arising. TT, who by all accounts has had tremendous workouts wherever he's gone and has really improved his stock is working out for us tomorrow. This is surprising because he is a pf, and only a pf, he's not a c or sf.

So here's my conspiracy theory. Virtually every draft pundit calls TT and EDE clone; similar skill set, similar body, etc. So, if you could trade Ed for another lottery pick and use one of the two to draft TT, essentially getting Ed right back, but this time a Canadian version of him who has stated that it's been his dream to play for his hometown team do you do it? Sadly, Ed could very well leave after his rookie contract, but Tristan is from Toronto and would love to be the face of the franchise. Interesting developments, to say the least.

Post #1163 » by **5DOM** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:06 pm

I'd be tempted, but the fact that Ed already had a good rookie year in the NBA means a lot to me.

Dalek · Post #1164 » by **Dalek** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:07 pm

I don't think Ed Davis and Tristan Thompson are that similar. Thompson can do some straight line drives to the basket and does have a 38 inch vertical (saw it on a ESPN sport science clip). I think with work TT could be a SF, but he is a few years away from reaching his potential. Really, TT isn't a stretch for us to draft but it would have to be based on the thinking that he can be converted to SF in time.

Spicy P · Post #1165 » by **Spicy P** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:07 pm

No thanks. We have enough euros

Leolovinliberal · Post #1166 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:08 pm

lolwut wrote:...so what do you do when it turns out that TT is not an Ed Davis clone?

"oops"?

The same thing you do if the #5 pick turns out to be a bust. The draft is always a gamble. But TT's work ethic and skill set is off the chart. Read up on how he's done so far, he's getting rave reviews.

wanker · Post #1167 » by **wanker** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:08 pm

While Thompson is a great prospect, he isn't comparable to Davis in terms of talent. While his skill-set is similar, Thompson would be a significant downgrade in both size and skill. That said, I think it would be a great move if B.C. could move Amir and take Thompson with an acquired pick. Thompson would then play behind Davis at PF (but would also provide some insurance in case Davis was to leave).

Crooked_J wrote:I don't think Ed Davis and Tristan Thompson are that similar. Thompson can do some straight line drives to the basket and does have a 38 inch vertical (saw it on a ESPN sport science clip). I think with work TT could be a SF, but he is a few years away from reaching his potential. Really, TT isn't a stretch for us to draft but it would have to be based on the thinking that he can be converted to SF in time.

Tristan Thompson is about as far from a SF as any PF prospect I have ever seen.

torontoaces04 · Post #1168 » by **torontoaces04** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 pm

SalamiNCheez wrote:No thanks. We have enough euros

Are you serious, or just playing stupid?

Indeed · Post #1169 » by **Indeed** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 pm

SalamiNCheez wrote:No thanks. We have enough euros

Canada is not part of Europe, you know?

Leolovinliberal · Post #1170 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 pm

wanker wrote:While Thompson is a great prospect, he isn't comparable to Davis in terms of talent. While his skill-set is similar, Thompson would be a significant downgrade in both size and skill. That said, I think it would be a great move if B.C. could move Amir and take Thompson with an acquired pick. Thompson would then play behind Davis at PF (but would also provide some insurance in case Davis was to leave).

You're wrong.

Yeezus_ · Post #1171 » by **Yeezus_** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:09 pm

You guys need to understand sarcasm.

swirsk · Post #1172 » by **swirsk** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:10 pm

Absolutely not. Davis was a better prospect and is a proven NBA player.

number15 · Post #1173 » by **number15** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:10 pm

people wont admit it but they want Thompson just because he is Canadian.... Ed Davis is the better player

enough of the Canadian homerism....... might as well sign Carl English, remember him, few years back

i wouldnt do anything stupid, like swaping them

Leolovinliberal · Post #1174 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:10 pm

Crooked_J wrote:I don't think Ed Davis and Tristan Thompson are that similar. Thompson can do some straight line drives to the basket and does have a 38 inch vertical (saw it on a ESPN sport science clip). I think with work TT could be a SF, but he is a few years away from reaching his potential. Really, TT isn't a stretch for us to draft but it would have to be based on the thinking that he can be converted to SF in time.

TT is in no way, shape or form a sf. he is the very definition of a pf.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1175 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:11 pm

I wouldn't do it just to trade Ed for another lottery pick. If it's a scenario where we're getting a real upgrade at another position using Ed (perhaps at C?), then fine--- not simply taking TT, who we hope *might* be as good as Ed, simply because we're afraid that Ed might leave in 6 years.

Indeed · Post #1176 » by **Indeed** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:12 pm

I think TT is gonna drop in the draft due to his measurement, and Davis is the better offensive player (potential wise). So at most Kleiza + Alabi/Ajinca + cash for TT.

dTox · Post #1177 » by **dTox** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:12 pm

No thanks, Ed is a better player in my opinion (especially on the defensive end).

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #1178 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:12 pm

not a 1 for 1 swap. If they gave us something else sure. Ed is already proven in the NBA.

Leolovinliberal · Post #1179 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:14 pm

number15 wrote:people wont admit it but they want Thompson just because he is Canadian.... Ed Davis is the better player

enough of the Canadian homerism....... might as well sign Carl English, remember him, few years back

i wouldnt do anything stupid, like swaping them

TT is a projected lottery pick, English went undrafted; stupid analogy. Yes of course TT being Canadian is a factor, one would be stupid to not recognize that. But the point is, he had a great freshman year at Texas, has been killing it at every workout that he's had, has a great work ethic and has been compared to Ed Davis by more than one pundit. He is from Toronto and said that it's his dream to play for the Raptors. Sadly, there's a better than 50/50 chance that ED leaves for an American team once his rookie contract is up; with TT, no such issue arises.

nahom1319 · Post #1180 » by **nahom1319** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:14 pm

swirsk wrote:Absolutely not. Davis was a better prospect and is a proven NBA player.

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