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Draft Express: Ilyasova Available For Late 1st/2012 1st

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Re: Draft Express: Ilyasova Available For Late 1st/2012 1st 

Post#41 » by emunney » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:42 pm

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Post#42 » by drew881 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:43 pm

More Bang For The Bucks wrote:saw this coming yesterday when LRMAM wa QO'd and said it in that thread. Ersan to the Heat or Bulls for 30 or 31 makes a ton of sense.


Makes more sense to send him to a team like Boston or San Antonio (if they want him) for their 2012 if we can. Those teams are older and less stable.
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Post#43 » by Newz » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:43 pm

More Bang For The Bucks wrote:saw this coming yesterday when LRMAM wa QO'd and said it in that thread. Ersan to the Heat or Bulls for 30 or 31 makes a ton of sense.


I think the Heat make some sense, since they pretty much just have Anthony, Bosh and Haslem at the 4/5 spots.

How is he going to get playing time on the Bulls though? He isn't better then Noah, Boozer, Gibson or Asik.
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Re: Draft Express: Ilyasova Available For Late 1st/2012 1st 

Post#44 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:43 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:I'd ship him to Houston for Goran Dragic and Sergio Llull or Dragic and Maarty Leunen. I'd also trade him to Utah for the rights to Ante Tomic or to Portland for the rights to Victor Claver or Joel Freeland


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Post#45 » by europa » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:45 pm

Newz wrote:How is he going to get playing time on the Bulls though? He isn't better then Noah, Boozer, Gibson or Asik.


None of those guys are stretch PFs. That's what the Bulls want and need - more perimeter shooting. Of course, Ilyasova's perimeter game declined this season but hopefully they and everyone else wasn't paying attention to that. :)

I could see the following teams being interested:

23. Houston
24. OKC
25. Boston
26. Dallas
28./30. Chicago
29. San Antonio
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Post#46 » by emunney » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:45 pm

No to Tomic, Freeland would be great, no idea what Claver's plans are.
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Post#47 » by Newz » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:46 pm

europa wrote:
Newz wrote:How is he going to get playing time on the Bulls though? He isn't better then Noah, Boozer, Gibson or Asik.


None of those guys are stretch PFs. That's what the Bulls want and need - more perimeter shooting. Of course, Ilyasova's perimeter game declined this season but hopefully they and everyone else wasn't paying attention to that. :)


I don't know why they'd target a stretch 4 that isn't a good shooter. :P

He'd be the 5th best big on their team, if they were giving them minutes then they are making themselves worse. I do agree he would help Miami though.
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Post#48 » by europa » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:47 pm

Newz wrote:I don't know why they'd target a stretch 4 that isn't a good shooter. :P


That'd be the beauty of the trade from the Bucks' perspective. :D
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Post#49 » by DH34Phan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:48 pm

europa's dream come true!

Why would we trade Ersan for a late 1st? He's better than most players we'd get in the last 1st round.
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Post#50 » by hurtem » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:48 pm

europa wrote:
Newz wrote:How is he going to get playing time on the Bulls though? He isn't better then Noah, Boozer, Gibson or Asik.


None of those guys are stretch PFs. That's what the Bulls want and need - more perimeter shooting. Of course, Ilyasova's perimeter game declined this season but hopefully they and everyone else wasn't paying attention to that. :)

I could see the following teams being interested:

23. Houston
24. OKC
25. Boston
26. Dallas
28./30. Chicago
29. San Antonio


Portland is supposedly looking for a back-up PF and they have #21. I could also see MN giving up #20 for a back-up to Love.
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Post#51 » by EastSideBucksFan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:49 pm

Mavericks need a backup PF and a stretch four would fit their system well when Dirk needs a rest.

I'd call and see if Corey Brewer is available. He's a guy I'd take a chance on since we need length and athleticism at the wings. His defense would surely be liked by Skiles and he could run the break with Jennings well at the 2 or 3 spot.
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Post#52 » by europa » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:49 pm

DH34Phan wrote:europa's dream come true!


:lol: Hardly. I'm fine with Ilyasova as a bench player. I just believe the Bucks need more than what he offers at the PF position. I view him as a late first-round talent. If the Bucks got a pick of that nature I'm fine with that. If they were able to use Ilyasova to get something better, I'd be very happy with that.
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Post#53 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:50 pm

Shelvin Mack?

He's all right, I guess. Obviously he's a backup PG in the League, but he's got a SG mentality. But I do like his game and approach, however I would definitely be concerned about his defense.

He's not the quality athlete Honeycutt is, who could be a good perimeter defender in a Nicolas Batum role.
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Post#54 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:52 pm

Ersan Ilyasova is a good player and will help somebody win. Actually he is a nice fit in Houston, playing with Scola. No doubt his jumper will start hitting at a good rate as soon as we trade him away.
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Post#55 » by Sauce Boss » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:52 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:I'd ship him to Houston for Goran Dragic and Sergio Llull or Dragic and Maarty Leunen. I'd also trade him to Utah for the rights to Ante Tomic or to Portland for the rights to Victor Claver or Joel Freeland

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Post#56 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:53 pm

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Chuck Diesel wrote:I'd ship him to Houston for Goran Dragic and Sergio Llull or Dragic and Maarty Leunen. I'd also trade him to Utah for the rights to Ante Tomic or to Portland for the rights to Victor Claver or Joel Freeland


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Post#57 » by SheedsWeed » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:54 pm

Is Shelvin Mack in the draft for sure? I thought a long time ago I heard he didn't hire an agent yet. Didn't hear anything after that. He is in for sure though? I liked him a lot at Butler.
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Post#58 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:54 pm

DrugBust wrote:
Chuck Diesel wrote:I'd ship him to Houston for Goran Dragic and Sergio Llull or Dragic and Maarty Leunen. I'd also trade him to Utah for the rights to Ante Tomic or to Portland for the rights to Victor Claver or Joel Freeland


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Post#59 » by Nebula1 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:54 pm

Diesel is great to watch the FIBA tournament with. He's like Fran Fraschilla or something.
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Post#60 » by DH34Phan » Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:54 pm

I doubt a late 1st would be as good as Ersan for the next year or two.

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