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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1281 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:00 pm

If the Magic trade Dwight, they should change their name to the Orlando Generals. Because, they will never fight for a title again. At best, they will be a 4-8 seed and 1st round fodder to the big markets.

Can anyone say why we should even root for a small market team ever again?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1282 » by Darth Magic » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:11 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:If the Magic trade Dwight, they should change their name to the Orlando Generals. Because, they will never fight for a title again. At best, they will be a 4-8 seed and 1st round fodder to the big markets.

Can anyone say why we should even root for a small market team ever again?


I asked the same question yesterday. why should small market fans, which are the majority of nba fans, support the NBA product if we are no more than farm systems for big market teams. Why should we not invest our time and money into the NFL? What's our motivation?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1283 » by Darth Magic » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:12 pm

then there is no incentive to trade, as any new Dwight contract wont get the bonuses he could get being traded earlier.


He can be traded after the all-star game.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1284 » by J-Mezzy » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:16 pm

If you are a small market team, you gotto draft a superstar and hope o surround him with talent RIGHT AWAY to win a title. If that doesn't happen, bye bye.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1285 » by slamjunkie » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:16 pm

This league is a joke!

Its never gonna be fixed! What was the whole point of the lockout to begin with????

This franchise is going into another rebuilding Mode and all because we're in a small market??? RDV put so much into this team! Its disgusting how a selfish prick can ruin it just like that! What about all the fans now, huh? It hurts so bad! I'm done with this circus! The city should sue the NBA!!!!
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1286 » by OrlandoDolfan92 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:20 pm

I got a funny feeling a team without cofirmation on extension is gonna show up and get Howard that offers the best in return as far as draft picks position & young players
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1287 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:22 pm

J-Mezzy wrote:If you are a small market team, you gotto draft a superstar and hope o surround him with talent RIGHT AWAY to win a title. If that doesn't happen, bye bye.


Durant got surrounded with talent, but even with that, he will bolt at the first opportunity.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1288 » by jadewbj » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:25 pm

If he is gone i would rather try and shed as much salary and tank a season to try and win the lottery.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1289 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:27 pm

I say dont sign anyone, clear salary and tank for draftpicks. Thats the only chance we would have to be good again. Thats the only chance for a team like us.
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Post#1290 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:30 pm

Yer talking about tanking and winning the Lottery. Magic got lucky in the draft and that is straight gambling. More of a chance to be the next Atlanta Hawks and get a good draft pick then spend max money on a player like Joe Johnson that is an all-star, but no superstar. But, he would choose a small market because of the max money. Then, your team is stuck being a 4-8 seed. Really, there is no hope.
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Post#1291 » by Nsantos » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:33 pm

I Like the idea Darth had about Dwight and Hedo for Brook lopez,marshon brooks, and 2 first round picks. We should be having a lottery pick from the Magic but obviously not the nets. Then in draft night we can use one of the draft picks and Brook lopez for another lottery pick. Than we can go after barnes and davis or two legit players in the draft. Dont draft a two guard b/c i truly believe Brooks has the skill set to be something special. Let the rebuilding begin.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1292 » by Shishnizzle » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:36 pm

Be happy being perennial losers. I'm done with the NBA. See ya!
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1293 » by trebone » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:47 pm

Nsantos wrote:I Like the idea Darth had about Dwight and Hedo for Brook lopez,marshon brooks, and 2 first round picks. We should be having a lottery pick from the Magic but obviously not the nets. Then in draft night we can use one of the draft picks and Brook lopez for another lottery pick. Than we can go after barnes and davis or two legit players in the draft. Dont draft a two guard b/c i truly believe Brooks has the skill set to be something special. Let the rebuilding begin.



This is probably the best way to go here, I like the idea of moving him to NJ way more than LAL, it seems to me NJ are like the clippers of NY anyway. An I think with Brooks, lopez and a bunch of picks we could do well. I truly believe Lopez would actually be a pretty good pf with a hopefully Drummond pick to play C.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1294 » by Visirale » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:50 pm

I don't think anyone has mentioned the Amway center yet. We built that for Dwight... the house that Dwight built. The slick DeVoses managed to get the City of Orlando to foot the bill for it. We'll be paying for it for years to come. I love the building and the atmosphere it provides. But it's just another way Orlando got ****** again.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1295 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:51 pm

prorl wrote:I say dont sign anyone, clear salary and tank for draftpicks. Thats the only chance we would have to be good again. Thats the only chance for a team like us.


For every Dwight, there is a Darko (2nd pick)
For every Durant, there is Michael Beasley (2nd Pick)
For every Bosh, there is a Thabeet (1st pick)
For every Wade, there is a Adam Morrison (3rd pick)
For every Chris Paul, there is a Marvin Williams (2nd pick)
For every Carmelo, there is a Ben Gordon (3rd pick)
For every Yao Ming, there is a Jay Williams (2nd) and Mike Dunleavy Jr (3rd) in same draft.
For every Pau Gasol (2nd), there is a Kwame Brown (1st) and Eddy Curry (4th in same draft

Could go on year by year. Point is, there are 25 other teams now banking and tanking to get that top 5 pick because they all need to put fans in the seats for a few years. No franchise is going to last long losing in this league for more than 3 years anymore once fans figure out how futile it is to root for a farm team.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1296 » by BelgianMagic » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:51 pm

Kyler on Dwight:
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The next one... why is Orlando letting D12's agent talk to other teams -- best offers come from understanding mindset of Dwight.

Lastly - Dan Fegan is one hell of a deal maker... he'll bring back more value than Otis Smith would on... he controls many chips in the game

Don't read that allowing Dwight to talk to teams means he is out of Orlando... It means he can decide now if he really wants to leave.

As for Dwight and the Chicago Bulls --- everyone is assuming the Bulls want Dwight... they have expressed ZERO interest in Dwight...
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1297 » by Coach_McGuirk » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:51 pm

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RT @mcguirknba: he cant get much back if it is just the Lakers or Mavs as options ---> sure he can, add a third, or fourth team...

what an idiot, after the Paul trade the Lakers (which seems to happen) have barely enough to get Dwight who would want to be involved in that trade and give us something of substance?!?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1298 » by CourtsideTV » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:53 pm

Visirale wrote:I don't think anyone has mentioned the Amway center yet. We built that for Dwight... the house that Dwight built. The slick DeVoses managed to get the City of Orlando to foot the bill for it. We'll be paying for it for years to come. I love the building and the atmosphere it provides. But it's just another way Orlando got ****** again.


lolzz.. its cool..at least we have other events..nba isn't the only thing it was built for..it was built to attract other events..not just the 3 big concerts...orlando was overlooked for shows..now we have the arena and are attracting all types of shows.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1299 » by Coach_McGuirk » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:56 pm

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Visirale wrote:I don't think anyone has mentioned the Amway center yet. We built that for Dwight... the house that Dwight built. The slick DeVoses managed to get the City of Orlando to foot the bill for it. We'll be paying for it for years to come. I love the building and the atmosphere it provides. But it's just another way Orlando got ****** again.


lolzz.. its cool..at least we have other events..nba isn't the only thing it was built for..it was built to attract other events..not just the 3 big concerts...orlando was overlooked for shows..now we have the arena and are attracting all types of shows.


Lets look at it this way.

Besides not being one of the biggest markets.

Great Weather down here!
No State tax meaning here you make the most money.
An owner that throws money at your team.
The newest and best arena in the NBA.

And we cant convince D-Will to come down here and demand a trade like Dwight will?

The only conclusion I have is that Otis not being able to do anything worth while is the reason this all plays out like it is. How can he still have a job?
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part III) 

Post#1300 » by CourtsideTV » Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:58 pm

he probably has some dirt on the owner LOL

I'm still hoping all of this is just smoke screen and deron somehow magically is announced as a magic man when the season starts.

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