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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#501 » by Rick Rolled » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:03 pm

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Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#502 » by purplehaze89 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:03 pm

Nets please. Or Mavs. Just. Not. The. Lakers. Ever.

Have them scramble.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#503 » by trebone » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:03 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:I would have been perfectly happy to start Gortat as our center.



:evil: Why hasnt anyone bumped the fire Otis thread yet? I really hate that man! and for the last few otis supporters yes he did screw this team I dont care what your argument is.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#504 » by cb1115 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:03 pm

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Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

It's almost over.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#505 » by Skin » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:03 pm

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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#506 » by MitchellUK » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:05 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:
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Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.


New Jersey better find a third team with more than garbage to offer them.

Also, they better prove that no tampering occurred prior to Dwight's request.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#507 » by U Gotta Play JJ » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:05 pm

I have been a Met's fan since I was a kid - used to disappointment. Life will go on
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#508 » by Nemesis21 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:05 pm

MoGrAdY wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

So I am not a true Magic fan ? Even though I've been a fan since day 1, didn't jump on Penny/Shaq bandwagon, was on board before they came. I went to the 1st ever Magic game at 6 yr old. I have grown up with this team and rooted for them with every once of my blood.
I just can not bear losing another player of this caliber and continuing on with my day.

So maybe in your opinion I am a bandwagon fan.



Nobody said anything to you sir. I guess it's different for people. I've been a Lions fan since I can remember and never once imagined giving up on them, even after the 0-16 season. I LOVE my teams with a passion, I love sports, I bleed for the Magic. I could care less if they didn't win a game for 19 years, I'd be at as many games as possible cheering my ass off.


You are right here, I should continue to support the Magic. Just the pain of losing Shaq, T-Mac and now possibly Dwight is killing me.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#509 » by mattyBoi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:05 pm

Nets don't have **** to offer, they can go **** themselves.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#510 » by MagicFan32 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:06 pm

hes under contract
why the **** is he trying to limit our options to one team?
**** that. MAKE THE BEST BASKETBALL TRADE, NOT THE BEST TRADE FOR DWIGHT COWARD
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#511 » by BelgianMagic » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Nets?? Wow, I actually prefer Bynum&Gasom over anything NJ can offer ..

I don't think we're gonna trade him to the Nets unless they get us some really good picks
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#512 » by dsg2021 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:06 pm

Robert Gray wrote:I'm a Raptor fan, Toronto is where I was born and where I live, and I can't even imagine how you guys feel. We've lost every franchise player we've ever had and it sucks, but Carter and Bosh compared to Shaq & Dwight isn't even a comparison. As bad as it feels now for you guys don't worry, at least you aren't us.

You'll be back in the playoffs before you know it - book it!


I always think of the other small markets, not just Toronto, who have been worse off than Orlando in getting superstars and making great season/playoffs records. It's humbling to know we are still lucky to have had Dwight in the first place and that we have had a lot of great seasons and playoffs runs.

I think the main thing moving forward is to have a management team and GM who values the draft more than FA's (it's just nonsensical to gun for signing mutiple FAs as a small market unless the core is set), so to me I would want SVG extended but my biggest hope is to fire Otis as GM and find someone like Pritchard or of similar success, especially with a small market setting and needing to use drafts wisely. It's the only way for small markets to break out of being farm teams and just playoffs participants from time to time. SA got Duncan, Ginobili, Parker themselves via draft, same with OKC.
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Post#513 » by G-Heel » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:06 pm

MagicTownBaller wrote:I don't want Dwight to go to LAL, but Gasol AND Bynum?  To me, that's not enough.  Also, how would this even work money wise?

Pau Gasol - $19 Million this year and is under contract for 2 more years after this one
Andrew Bynum - $15 Million this year and a team option for next year at $16 Million

That's $34 Million combined and not adding the draft picks that Orlando would get from Los Angeles

Now, here's what Orlando would MOST LIKELY offer

Dwight Howard - $18 Million
Hedo Turkoglu - $11 Million this year and under contract for 2 more years after this one
Chris Duhon - $3.5 Million this year and is under contract for 2 more years after this year

That's $32.5 Million we would be sending out and we would be taking on $1.5 Million in salary and that's money that the Lakers are saving on luxury tax and off the cap.

I don't like this trade at all.  It would keep us from sucking, but it could cost us high draft picks.  Also, the draft picks that Los Angeles would give us, would be in the 27-30 range every year.  I hope Otis doesn't pull this trade and if he does, then I hope Alex Martins fires him.

To make a long story short,

LAL TRADES
Pau Gasol - $19 Million (3 Years)
Andrew Bynum - $15 Million (2 Years)
A couple of draft picks

ORLANDO TRADES
Dwight Howard - $19 Million
Hedo Turkoglu - $11 Million (3 Years)
Chris Duhon - $3.5 Million (3 Years)


We can flip Gasol to Houston for Lowry and Scola.. Then flip Scola for young prospects and picks. Not bad imo.

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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#514 » by cb1115 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:06 pm

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Orlando GM Otis Smith told @JoshuaBRobbins today that Howard has asked for a trade. Sources tell Y! Sports that request is for the Nets.

Hang in there. This will probably be over soon.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#515 » by mattyBoi » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:07 pm

At least have faith that Otis isn't going to just take a bad deal because Dwight says so.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#516 » by BelgianMagic » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:07 pm

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Now that Orlando has made it public, time for Otis to call L.A. and offer Dwight, Turk and Jameer for Odom, Bynum and Gasol.

Actually agree with this ..
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#517 » by Idunkonyou2 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:07 pm

The Nets better find a 3rd to give up their assets for nothing if the want Howard. Lopez and 2 1st rounders isn't going to be enough.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#518 » by MagicMan89 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:07 pm

Just wondering what we might be able to get for B.Lopez? I am not excited about the idea of paying him 10+ million next off-season if he is what we get back. Also we need to ask for an ungodly # of picks like 4 1st rounders.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#519 » by purplehaze89 » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:07 pm

Any updates from Magical?????????

This is all going to be over. Get your Lopez jersey pre-orders ready. I just hope we get more than 2 firsts and Brook.
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Re: Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Part IV) 

Post#520 » by woosah » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:07 pm

This is probably to force the Lakers to up the offers because Aldridge said the FO was not at ALL interested in the NJ deal. Nothing about it.
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