Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford?

Blue Ninja · Post #101 » by **Blue Ninja** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:25 am

god shammgod wrote:i rather have tony douglas. this is a mistake.

Completely agree. Other then handles and ability to get to the rim, JC does nothing better then Toney. We are completely discounting defense now that we got Tyson?

The KnicksFix · Post #102 » by **The KnicksFix** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:26 am

wait... FOR REAL?!

god shammgod · Post #103 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:26 am

Jay10 wrote:d'antoni wants to spread the court

jamal can't shoot standing in the corner. he needs to hold the ball for 20 seconds then unnecessarily cross the defender over 3 times and fall to 1 side while yelling "ayeee" for the shot to go in.

Remember the Past · Post #104 » by **Remember the Past** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:27 am

ITGM wrote:
Empire wrote:It comes down to Douglas vs Crawford.

Dougie brings the D and is a better shooter but Jamal brings the straight scoring and handles. Crawford is a vet that knows NY. He was also a class act here despite his chuckyness and was just put into a position he couldnt handle, but as a 6th man hes deadly. Douglas is already 25 and might be capped out as far as potential goes, but this year will tell us alot about that.

IDK man. Its close. I might be bending towards Jamal, especially on the cheap.

Good analysis,

I think at the end of the day, Crawford can breakdown any 1-on-1 defender and cause the opposition's defense to falter: Douglas does not possess this skill.

Why do people always think offense first? I know offense is what shows up in the stat sheet but with Amare and Melo, we need defense. With Douglas and Chandler in the lineup, we have a shot at being a solid defensive team.

Post #105 » by **kane2021** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:28 am

Chandler and Amare will HANDLE those lobs.

Pharmcat · Post #106 » by **Pharmcat** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:28 am

its obvious dolan is going for star names he can get

KnicksFan007 · Post #107 » by **KnicksFan007** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:28 am

god shammgod wrote:does this mean chitown is coming back too ? and jamal's sister ? and jcrawford11 ? lord help us

ITGM · Post #108 » by **ITGM** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:30 am

Remember the Past wrote:
ITGM wrote:
Empire wrote:It comes down to Douglas vs Crawford.

Dougie brings the D and is a better shooter but Jamal brings the straight scoring and handles. Crawford is a vet that knows NY. He was also a class act here despite his chuckyness and was just put into a position he couldnt handle, but as a 6th man hes deadly. Douglas is already 25 and might be capped out as far as potential goes, but this year will tell us alot about that.

IDK man. Its close. I might be bending towards Jamal, especially on the cheap.

Good analysis,

I think at the end of the day, Crawford can breakdown any 1-on-1 defender and cause the opposition's defense to falter: Douglas does not possess this skill.

Why do people always think offense first? I know offense is what shows up in the stat sheet but with Amare and Melo, we need defense. With Douglas and Chandler in the lineup, we have a shot at being a solid defensive team.

True... I'm torn

Empire · Post #109 » by **Empire** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:30 am

Remember the Past wrote:
ITGM wrote:
Empire wrote:It comes down to Douglas vs Crawford.

Dougie brings the D and is a better shooter but Jamal brings the straight scoring and handles. Crawford is a vet that knows NY. He was also a class act here despite his chuckyness and was just put into a position he couldnt handle, but as a 6th man hes deadly. Douglas is already 25 and might be capped out as far as potential goes, but this year will tell us alot about that.

IDK man. Its close. I might be bending towards Jamal, especially on the cheap.

Good analysis,

I think at the end of the day, Crawford can breakdown any 1-on-1 defender and cause the opposition's defense to falter: Douglas does not possess this skill.

Why do people always think offense first? I know offense is what shows up in the stat sheet but with Amare and Melo, we need defense. With Douglas and Chandler in the lineup, we have a shot at being a solid defensive team.

Because Chandler is only going to play around 30 minutes tops, and I saw what happened to our team last year when our stars were on the bench. Now we dont even have Chauncey as a 3rd option. I mean Toney is our 3rd option now. Who knows how Fields will bounce back and Shumpert is an unknown. Believe it or not we still need another reliable scorer, but hopefully our young guys can step up.

Ultimately I think this report is bogus anyway.

nassah1o · Post #110 » by **nassah1o** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:31 am

Mister Dolan, please stop asking Zeke for advice. Thank you.

Jose7 · Post #111 » by **Jose7** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:31 am

jcbigsis all day?

MaseInYourFace · Post #112 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:32 am

Blue Ninja wrote:
god shammgod wrote:i rather have tony douglas. this is a mistake.

Completely agree. Other then handles and ability to get to the rim, JC does nothing better then Toney. We are completely discounting defense now that we got Tyson?

It could be Knicks feel shump can provide that defensive spark. And we do need a six man lets be honest. Its not the biggest need but it is a need. Not that I think crawford is a realistic option for us...

god shammgod · Post #113 » by **god shammgod** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:34 am

i hate everyone in this thread who cosigns this. i wish eternal damnation on all your souls. and i'm gonna text one mr. robert randolph to see how quickly we get that accomplished. thank you.

Empire · Post #114 » by **Empire** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:35 am

Also lets not overrate Toneys D. Its much better than Jamals but Toney gets burned and gambles way too much. Rondo completely handled him in the playoffs. Maybe we think that Shumpert can fill the defensive void of Toney, but like I said I doubt this happens.

Post #115 » by **GONYK** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:36 am

Remember the Past wrote:
ITGM wrote:
Empire wrote:It comes down to Douglas vs Crawford.

Dougie brings the D and is a better shooter but Jamal brings the straight scoring and handles. Crawford is a vet that knows NY. He was also a class act here despite his chuckyness and was just put into a position he couldnt handle, but as a 6th man hes deadly. Douglas is already 25 and might be capped out as far as potential goes, but this year will tell us alot about that.

IDK man. Its close. I might be bending towards Jamal, especially on the cheap.

Good analysis,

I think at the end of the day, Crawford can breakdown any 1-on-1 defender and cause the opposition's defense to falter: Douglas does not possess this skill.

Why do people always think offense first? I know offense is what shows up in the stat sheet but with Amare and Melo, we need defense. With Douglas and Chandler in the lineup, we have a shot at being a solid defensive team.

Why do people keep thinking we are this offensive juggernaut? We need a mix of both. Crawford is a more dynamic player than Douglas and gives us a legit SG and third scorer. He also allows Fields to slide back to the backup SF where he belongs.

Crawford balances the roster a bit. If we could trade for him and sign Barea, that is much better than hoping Toney can run the team.

Knicker23 · Post #116 » by **Knicker23** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:37 am

Empire wrote:
Because Chandler is only going to play around 30 minutes tops, and I saw what happened to our team last year when our stars were on the bench. Now we dont even have Chauncey as a 3rd option. I mean Toney is our 3rd option now. Who knows how Fields will bounce back and Shumpert is an unknown. Believe it or not we still need another reliable scorer, but hopefully our young guys can step up.

Ultimately I think this report is bogus anyway.

This. As good as TD is on the defensive end, who do we have to look to to score this year outside of Amare and Melo?? Billups was slow, but he put up a consistent amount each night......

Maybe TD is ready for that role, but I doubt it. He's too inconsistent.

MaseInYourFace · Post #117 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:37 am

Crawfords biggest issue was that he didnt play defense. But he was not the only one on those teams. They were bad teams and he always played hard and he provided some of the few enjoyable moments of that era. It wasnt his fault he got overpaid. I think as a six man he is golden.

Post #118 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:37 am

MaseInYourFace wrote:
Blue Ninja wrote:
god shammgod wrote:i rather have tony douglas. this is a mistake.

Completely agree. Other then handles and ability to get to the rim, JC does nothing better then Toney. We are completely discounting defense now that we got Tyson?

It could be Knicks feel shump can provide that defensive spark. And we do need a six man lets be honest. Its not the biggest need but it is a need.

Honestly I think it is a big need.

If we are trying to be a contender, we have to solidify roles.

Tyson is the defensive anchor.

Melo and Amar'e are our primary firepower on offense, but they will need a break from time to time.

Melo is to be our facilitator.

Shump maybe our defensive presence in the backcourt.

?? sixth man.

We seem to be building a contender people.

Even though it's expensive, it seems the GM's are doing their jobs at Penn Plaza.

I doubt Crawford takes small change, but we'll see.

Bigmo5246 · Post #119 » by **Bigmo5246** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:37 am

Are you guys serious right now, with this roster, I'd take Crawford back in a heartbeat.

MaseInYourFace · Post #120 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:40 am

To clarify I dont like him as a starter. Hes golden torching other teams bench players. He can spot start but I think a classic shooter works better with our starting lineup.