Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford?

[Thugger HBC]

Okay guys. Crawford is "one of the best at breaking down defenses." Okay. rofl

Are you laughing at your own ignorance? Everyone knows that's what JC is known for...breaking down his man one-on-one.

I watched him for years as a Knicks, and saying he's "one of the best at breaking down defenses" is a laughable statement.

Nah, you couldn't have.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViOiG47OpNQ[/youtube]

here is a nice clip of Crawford on a few of the teams he's played for.

Watch what he does to his defender on every single set.

[neuroticomic2]

Ken Berger: A wign-and-trade that would bring Jamal Crawford back to the #Knicks would not include Toney Douglas in its current form, source says. 1 minute ago

the f**k?

[KnicksScholar24]

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Tough decision, but seeing how D'Antoni is unlikely to have played Balkman anyway, Douglas is no more capable of playing the starting PG than Crawford, and Jamal is an upgrade offensively to Billy Walker, I am leaning toward bring Crawful back (assuming that is the correct package going out). I can't believe I'm co-signing this very Isiah-esque move. The years and size of the contract will also matter. The Knicks better not give up any draft picks or money, which they seem to always do. If any additional assets are trading hands, Atlanta should have to give up second round pick or Magnum Rolle or Charles Garcia or something, since they obviously weren't going to re-sign Crawford and the Knicks are giving them their starting PG.

Stop pretending Balkman is going to sniff the active roster, let alone get any playing time. He was jettisoned the minute D'Antoni arrived and he didn't get any burn after the Melo trade. So basically we're giving up Walker/Douglas for Crawford. Lets be real here, Walker is a bum. He cannot defend as he has no lateral quickness due to knee woes. He is a good spot-up 3pt shooter but that's really all he has to offer aside from the occasional dunk. Crawford is a proven commodity so that puts him over Douglas for that reason alone. Douglas is considered a good defender when in fact he is not. He is a WILLING DEFENDER but he's not quite good at defense...big difference. Why? Because he's not a smart defender. Dude was told to give Rondo room and he kept backing up and backing up and backing up until he was damn near at the concession stands while Rondo was swooping in for a layup. He's not that bright man. We can sacrifice him for Crawford because we have another willing defender (Shumpert) who is more athletic, bigger and stronger even if he never learns how to shoot.

Read the above comment that you quoted.

Edit: I underlined the parts you should pay close attention to.

[2010]

Douglas isn't going anywhere...so how will this get done???


NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
#Knicks won't include Douglas in deal for Crawford: source nyp.st/vjbuCf via @newyorkpost

Wow, so what excuse to not bring back JC will the H8Rs have now?

[Knicksrule2k4]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
A sign-and-trade that would bring Jamal Crawford back to the #Knicks would not include Toney Douglas in its current form, source says.

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
A sign-and-trade that would bring Jamal Crawford back to the #Knicks would not include Toney Douglas in its current form, source says.

How the F does that work?

[Knicksrule2k4]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
New York also is continuing to seek another point guard, including Mavs free agent J.J. Barea, sources say.

[Thugger HBC]

Falsta I'd like to know what are your expectations of a shooting guard, pg, and sixth man?

I'd really love to hear them.

I'd be fine with Crawford as our shooting guard. I just happen to prefer keeping Douglas.

At Point guard I'd like to get either Barea or Davis since they seem to be the two best guys that are available.

I don't have a specific player in mind for sixth man.

Ok fair enough, I just think the coaching staff will take their history and blend that when it comes to Crawford, should we get him.

[2010]

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Tough decision, but seeing how D'Antoni is unlikely to have played Balkman anyway, Douglas is no more capable of playing the starting PG than Crawford, and Jamal is an upgrade offensively to Billy Walker, I am leaning toward bring Crawful back (assuming that is the correct package going out). I can't believe I'm co-signing this very Isiah-esque move. The years and size of the contract will also matter. The Knicks better not give up any draft picks or money, which they seem to always do. If any additional assets are trading hands, Atlanta should have to give up second round pick or Magnum Rolle or Charles Garcia or something, since they obviously weren't going to re-sign Crawford and the Knicks are giving them their starting PG.

Stop pretending Balkman is going to sniff the active roster, let alone get any playing time. He was jettisoned the minute D'Antoni arrived and he didn't get any burn after the Melo trade. So basically we're giving up Walker/Douglas for Crawford. Lets be real here, Walker is a bum. He cannot defend as he has no lateral quickness due to knee woes. He is a good spot-up 3pt shooter but that's really all he has to offer aside from the occasional dunk. Crawford is a proven commodity so that puts him over Douglas for that reason alone. Douglas is considered a good defender when in fact he is not. He is a WILLING DEFENDER but he's not quite good at defense...big difference. Why? Because he's not a smart defender. Dude was told to give Rondo room and he kept backing up and backing up and backing up until he was damn near at the concession stands while Rondo was swooping in for a layup. He's not that bright man. We can sacrifice him for Crawford because we have another willing defender (Shumpert) who is more athletic, bigger and stronger even if he never learns how to shoot.

Read the above comment that you quoted.

My bad...

[Falstaffxx]

Douglas isn't going anywhere...so how will this get done???


NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
#Knicks won't include Douglas in deal for Crawford: source nyp.st/vjbuCf via @newyorkpost

Ken Berger confirms. I wonder how, then. You'd have to think it would be Fields then, right? That would be tough to swallow. Crawford is a better fit as shooting guard than Fields, but Fields as a player is better without the ball and a better 3-point shooter, which you like with this roster.

Berger says we're still going for Barea:

KBergCBS Ken Berger
New York also is continuing to seek another point guard, including Mavs free agent J.J. Barea, sources say.
30 seconds ago

[DE FENSE]

Douglas isn't going anywhere...so how will this get done???


NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
#Knicks won't include Douglas in deal for Crawford: source nyp.st/vjbuCf via @newyorkpost

Wow, so what excuse to not bring back JC will the H8Rs have now?

If its something like Walker and Balkman for JC, then you pull the trigger and don't look back.

If you throw Fields in place of TD, forget it.

[2010]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
New York also is continuing to seek another point guard, including Mavs free agent J.J. Barea, sources say.

[KnicksFan007]

Sounds like we are only losing Walker/Balkman. The Warriors and Hawks would exchange the bulk of the trade somehow.

[Thugger HBC]

Douglas isn't going anywhere...so how will this get done???


NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
#Knicks won't include Douglas in deal for Crawford: source nyp.st/vjbuCf via @newyorkpost

Wow, so what excuse to not bring back JC will the H8Rs have now?

he's an awful defender, and chucker.

[TrueWarrior]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
New York also is continuing to seek another point guard, including Mavs free agent J.J. Barea, sources say.

So if we're continuing to look for another PG, then why wouldnt we include Douglas for Crawford? Unless we plan of giving them Fields we have nobody else to trade of any value, and I prob wouldnt give up Fields even though Im down on him a little.

Meh. Im going out. This is too complicated!

[NYKNICKPLAYA]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
New York also is continuing to seek another point guard, including Mavs free agent J.J. Barea, sources say.

These reports are very contradictory.

[neuroticomic2]

man, so much going on in the last two days, non stop.
when donnie wakes up from his nap, its a whole new NBA.

[2010]

Douglas isn't going anywhere...so how will this get done???


NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
#Knicks won't include Douglas in deal for Crawford: source nyp.st/vjbuCf via @newyorkpost

Wow, so what excuse to not bring back JC will the H8Rs have now?

If its something like Walker and Balkman for JC, then you pull the trigger and don't look back.

If you throw Fields in place of TD, forget it.

Exactly

[ctorres]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
A sign-and-trade that would bring Jamal Crawford back to the #Knicks would not include Toney Douglas in its current form, source says.

So what else could we possibly do?

Bill Walker makes $916,100. Renaldo Balkman makes $1,675,000. Add those salaries together, multiply by 150%, and the most we could offer Crawford on the first year of his new deal is $3,886,650.

[Red Vines]

sam_amick Sam Amick
Source says Golden State not involved in possible 3-tm, sign and trade talks with Atl for Jamal Crawford. NY interest real though.