Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (PtVII Mods Close)

jezzer45 · Post #101 » by **jezzer45** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:47 pm

I wish otis would leak who the magic have targeted even if they have already been signed. This speculation thing is gretting frustrating. I mean thread 7...wtf.

rcklsscognition · Post #102 » by **rcklsscognition** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:48 pm

Turk for Beasley and Ridnour.

arkknight1988 · Post #103 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:48 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:
RickB-Orlando wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Hedo + Ryan For Stack 5 + Gooden works...

Thoughts?

If we got Jax you almost have to move Hedo.

But aren't Dwight and Hedo buddies? Or they used to be?

When Dwight says we need guys that fight everynight, it's not hard to figure out he's talking about Hedo and Ryan...

yeah ryan is def. a softy. he should have trade value around the league. Something tells me jj might be moved also

arkknight1988 · Post #104 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:48 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Turk for Beasley and Ridnour.

yes please. they wouldn't do that though

jezzer45 · Post #105 » by **jezzer45** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:49 pm

Duhon for ridnour.... then we get brad miller and have an all white second unit. assuming hedo is there.

arsenal6106 · Post #106 » by **arsenal6106** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:50 pm

K Just got here...BadMofo started this thread with some bad news. I'm hoping that he is completely off.

jezzer45 · Post #107 » by **jezzer45** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:51 pm

It sucks to know that all it took to get beasley was a secound rounder.

The-Dawson · Post #108 » by **The-Dawson** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:54 pm

Id rather do one of these then tradin for Gooden

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=7sh6mwx

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=clpoa7d but Im sure they wouldnt trade Ilyasova

Blue_and_Whte · Post #109 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:55 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:
christian72589 wrote:jameer isn't being traded.

we would have virtually no starting pg.

yep looks like we are stuck with jameer for another year. maybe he will play better without the presence of gilbert but man his game peaked years ago and he got outplayed by hinrich in the playoffs.

Jameer didnt get outplayed by Kirk they were a wash.

Everyone got outplayed outside of Howard, Jameer isnt the reason we lost that series. If being stuck with a Jameer means we have a good pg then I'll take. I dont understand why everyone tries to pin every loss on him. He didnt get outplayed by Hinrich. Look at Jrich and JJ..then go look at Crawfords stats.

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pokerfan12 · Post #110 » by **pokerfan12** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:59 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:
christian72589 wrote:jameer isn't being traded.

we would have virtually no starting pg.

yep looks like we are stuck with jameer for another year. maybe he will play better without the presence of gilbert but man his game peaked years ago and he got outplayed by hinrich in the playoffs.

Im sorry....

What?

DAMNIT B-dub... I LIKE THE WAY YOU DO BIDNESS(gangster voice included)

magicman123 · Post #111 » by **magicman123** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:01 pm

posting a stat where jameer averaged 13.2pts on 13.7FGA while shooting 37% and 23% really doesnt helps anyone's case

arkknight1988 · Post #112 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:02 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:
christian72589 wrote:jameer isn't being traded.

we would have virtually no starting pg.

yep looks like we are stuck with jameer for another year. maybe he will play better without the presence of gilbert but man his game peaked years ago and he got outplayed by hinrich in the playoffs.

Im sorry....

What?

lol look at the minutes they played and look at jameers fg%

pokerfan12 · Post #113 » by **pokerfan12** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:04 pm

magicman123 wrote:posting a stat where jameer averaged 13.2pts on 13.7FGA while shooting 37% and 23% really helps anyone's case

shots didn't fall obviously but the question is did he get out played? and look at all the stats. certainly had more asst then Kirk.

SolidSnake008 · Post #114 » by **SolidSnake008** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:05 pm

magicman123 wrote:posting a stat where jameer averaged 13.2pts on 13.7FGA while shooting 37% and 23% really doesnt helps anyone's case

Jesus man......13 shot attempts? don't remember him taking that many shots...If anybody needs more of a leash this season Nelson got to be on that list....Needs to be more efficient.....damn it man i don't want to be stuck with Nelson again this year...it's not that i don't like him it's just that he can't take us to the next level at least not this Nelson....If 09 Nelson shows up this year then i'll eat my words

pokerfan12 · Post #115 » by **pokerfan12** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:06 pm

reb, assist, and even steals. goes both ways.

arkknight1988 · Post #116 » by **arkknight1988** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:08 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Would you guys give up JJ and Ryan for SJax? Their salaries match up. I don't see any other viable trades for him with us, that's about the only thing we got to offer them.

i would. we would have to bring back earl though

Skin · Post #117 » by **Skin** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:13 pm

You guys are arguing about who's better Dumb or Dumber?

Jameer has always had a trigger happy finger which is one of his strenghts. The problem is he is too inconsistent. He's a streaky shooter. When he's hot, he can change games, when he's cold, he hurts us. Secondary to that is that Stan leaves him in the game even when he's cold and throwing up bricks. ...cause Stan's a stubborn idiot.

Why do you think Dwight keeps asking for the Magic to get an upgrade at PG???

Why do you think Dwight keeps mocking Stan???

When the man says we need to go in a different direction, you need to read between the lines. It's time to get a PG who can take our team to another level and a new coach who isn't as idiotic as Stan.

Nolimit1211 · Post #118 » by **Nolimit1211** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:14 pm

Back when NBA Stat Cube was up, EVERY one of Jameers stats dropped in to the red zone when Kirk Hinrich was on the floor at the same time during the playoffs..

Blue_and_Whte · Post #119 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:15 pm

magicman123 wrote:posting a stat where jameer averaged 13.2pts on 13.7FGA while shooting 37% and 23% really doesnt helps anyone's case

That isnt the argument. He said Hinrich outplayed Jameer...I didn't say it was Jameers best series, or that he even shot the ball well then again nobody did.

So what if Jameer took that many shots who exactly was he taking the ball away from.... Hedo?, JRich, The great Ryan Anderson? Nobody was hitting shots. And like DWIGHT and Stan have said on a number of occasions, They play well when Jameer is aggressive. Peoples perception is that Hinirch outplayed Jameer because he's the scapegoat and we lost that series.

pokerfan12 · Post #120 » by **pokerfan12** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:15 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote: Jameer didnt get outplayed by Kirk they were a wash.

Everyone got outplayed outside of Howard, Jameer isnt the reason we lost that series. If being stuck with a Jameer means we have a good pg then I'll take. I dont understand why everyone tries to pin every loss on him. He didnt get outplayed by Hinrich. Look at Jrich and JJ..then go look at Crawfords stats.

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