Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2

Basketball_Jones · Post #1261 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:28 pm

Q Miller could use another year. Barnes is just really...overrated. I was warming up to him but these past few games have been very underwhelming. I really regret jumping on the bandwagon.

Post #1262 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:06 pm

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Gilchirist has been number 1 on my board for the last 2 years and my mind still hasnt changed.

Unless Drummond is available, Im taking Gilchrist to the bank.

What?

Basketball_Jones wrote:Q Miller could use another year. Barnes is just really...overrated.

Agree on Miller.

Barnes still looks like a good bet to be an NBA starter to me, but he may be a 6'8 OJ Mayo or at least share his degenerative talent disease.

Dr Positivity · Post #1263 » by **Dr Positivity** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:11 pm

Barnes is a ludicrisly overrated prospect.

Basketball_Jones · Post #1264 » by **Basketball_Jones** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:18 pm

FluLikeSymptoms wrote:
Barnes still looks like a good bet to be an NBA starter to me, but he may be a 6'8 OJ Mayo or at least share his degenerative talent disease.

It's at the point where, even if he goes on a great run like Demar did near the end of his college year, it still wouldn't make much of a difference. This is his 2nd year he should be killing it. Outside of impressive pull up jumpers I don't see anything to get excited about. Passing, defense, rebounds, improved ball handling, all non existent

JamesNaismith · Post #1265 » by **JamesNaismith** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:25 pm

5DOM wrote:and yet now he's tied for first in our poll

Seriously baffling....

I'm glad to see some posters finally jumping off the Barnes' Bandwagon but this guy should be at best be 4th place for votes. His ceiling really appears to be the Joe Johnson of SFs.

nahom1319 · Post #1266 » by **nahom1319** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:46 pm

JamesNaismith wrote:
5DOM wrote:and yet now he's tied for first in our poll

Seriously baffling....

I'm glad to see some posters finally jumping off the Barnes' Bandwagon but this guy should be at best be 4th place for votes. His ceiling really appears to be the Joe Johnson of SFs.

Forget Joe Johnson, this guy is the second coming of Marvin Wlliams. All my arguments defending him this summer went up in a puff of smoke :roll:

.....On to Lamb, Drummond and MKG.

DreamTeam09 · Post #1267 » by **DreamTeam09** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:59 pm

My perception on barnes is not going to change during the 1st month & a half in his 2nd yr. He's still putting up decent stats & doing it on one of the best teams in the country. He's hitting 1.5 threes a game, getting to the line 5x a game, and has 8stls in 10 games. He's still the best wing option in this draft outside of maybe lamb at the sg spot. The tourney doesn't even start till march its mid december...

Post #1268 » by **Undefeated** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:37 pm

Barnes does nothing incredibly well than shoot spot-up and pull-up jumpshots which to say he is very, very impressive. But for a Raptors team that lacks an all-around wing, Barnes isn't a prospect the franchise should be targeting. He's got an NBA-ready frame, so that's nice. Only thing I don't get is the hype for Jeremy Lamb. You have some that are saying he's going to be an All-Star or be the next Dwyane Wade/Brandon Roy. Like, really? His shot creating ability is only a bit better than Barnes.

nahom1319 · Post #1269 » by **nahom1319** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:56 pm

Undefeated wrote:Barnes does nothing incredibly well than shoot spot-up and pull-up jumpshots which to say he is very, very impressive. But for a Raptors team that lacks an all-around wing, Barnes isn't a prospect the franchise should be targeting. He's got an NBA-ready frame, so that's nice. Only thing I don't get is the hype for Jeremy Lamb. You have some that are saying he's going to be an All-Star or be the next Dwyane Wade/Brandon Roy. Like, really? His shot creating ability is only a bit better than Barnes.

I'd say he's quite a bit better at creating, but more importantly his pull up jumper is much better imo.

JamesNaismith · Post #1270 » by **JamesNaismith** » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:00 pm

I do agree with some hype about Lamb....but not to the degree of some posters.

To me he has the potential (keyword) to maybe reach the level of someone like Brandon Roy with a lot IFs down that path but that's what makes him an exciting prospect. I can see him reaching the level of guys like Gordon and DeRozan but he has a little something extra (namely ape arms) that make take him a slight level above.

What I don't see is the reference to potentially being at the level of Wade or Kobe...imo he just doesn't have that "dominator" quality about him. He can step and hit some key shots like Roy but he doesn't seem to control a game or a team like those guys nor do I think he will have it in him to be a near 30ppg scorer. The only SG prospect that I see MAY potentially have that in him is Shabazz Mohammed but we'll see if he's still as dominant in college.

fredericklove · Post #1271 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:11 pm

ah damn it, I wanna watch baylor game.

7-Day Dray · Post #1272 » by **7-Day Dray** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:19 pm

fredericklove wrote:ah damn it, I wanna watch baylor game.

It's on BYUtv.org. You have to register first.

fredericklove · Post #1273 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:34 pm

7-Day Dray wrote:
fredericklove wrote:ah damn it, I wanna watch baylor game.

It's on BYUtv.org. You have to register first.

thx bro, damn the quality is nice.

sunny · Post #1274 » by **sunny** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:35 pm

byu tv has the best commericals of any network I have ever seen.

Enjoy!

fredericklove · Post #1275 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:38 pm

i like seeing the assertive mode of PJ3

Pseudonym · Post #1276 » by **Pseudonym** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:38 pm

Omg, this is a glorious Baylor stream.

fredericklove · Post #1277 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:39 pm

I'm starting to worry about Qmiller's offense.

fredericklove · Post #1278 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:41 pm

No Jimmer no problem, if there's Jimmer, he destroys them.

bboyskinnylegs · Post #1279 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:44 pm

it tells me the video isnt authorized for my location

fredericklove · Post #1280 » by **fredericklove** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:45 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:it tells me the video isnt authorized for my location

Really? It works for me in T.O.

Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?