Orlando Magic vs Miami Heat Pre-Season

[darthmerrick]

aint no liquor makes you that crazy son. The real problem is you need to turn off that light before your parents catch you up on the laptop posting past bed time. Get a good night sleep and get a basketball in the morning and play before the bell rings. You will notice it takes much more energy to either cut into the arc or drive within it then pull up for a shot than it is to simply stay out at the perimeter, release higher and extend your hands.

In short You are talking utter and absolute nonsense.

And here I thought you were Puerto Rican! Some liquor makes you all kinds of crazy. I'm probably older then you son...but I am happily married with a job! I don't go to the DMV and collect unemployment like your daddy. In fact the taxes I pay from that paycheck are probably going towards your food, mommy's rent and your internet. Disappointing!

Did I say anything about driving to the hoop or pulling up for jumpshots? Of course that exerts more energy. News flash T-MAC got traded to the Rockets 7 years ago. Our team doesn't have anyone that can drive to the hoop. What I said was we'd be better to reign in the threes and shoot more mid range jump shots.Higher percentage shots are what they teach you in the beginning of organized basketball. The point that myself and others are starting to make. Teams have figured us out and it's easy for them to get back and cover the three point line in our predictable offense. We need many things on this team right now. Continuing with this offense is the absolute nonsense part and it's crazy to think we can win if we stay with this offensive set.

Where was the with what we said?

[Bensational]

yeah, this team's inability to recognise the difference Skip made by pushing the ball is just insane. i don't get why Jameer can't push the break, it's not like it's a challenging facet to add to your game. you get the ball and run...

No, you don't get the ball and run. You get the ball and pass. Does anyone here even understand this game?

http://nbaplaybook.com/2010/08/05/nba-h ... ast-break/

GTFO you arrogant prick.

[Sundamental]

This team will end up being very good imo as long as we keep Dwight. I really liked what I saw from Davis, from his activity, his screens, his defense, really all of it. He is an upgrade. I like what I see in Earl too and think he'll be an upgrade over QRich in the rotation. I'm pissed we don't have Arenas, period; Nelson is good but not reliable as a starter. Nelson consistently leaves 18 mpg to a back up, and that just isn't good enough. Duhon in the rotation simply won't cut it, we need an upgrade at the 1. Anderson and JJ off the bench is going to be terrific offense all year long. Hedo is going to be great too as we won't ask him to do too much and his shooting and facilitating will be huge.

Nelson's inability to play heavy mins is our teams biggest weakness, tbh.

Nelson having to play the PG is this teams biggest weakness. He's not really a PG. He's a shooting guard trapped in a PG's body. He doesn't penetrate all that well, he not a PG level passer and he absolutely is terrible at advancing the ball in transition.

I agree on BBD but I think Anderson's better. I'd like to see BBD get about 30 minutes a night playing back up center and power forward. The overall team is better that way.

And still, any of this is meaningless unless Howard lives up to his contract and really plays. If he keeps this up, they may as well ship him out.

[darthmerrick]

Bensational don't try to reason with him. With his superior basketball IQ he must be an NBA player or a coach for an NBA team. A college coach at least? A ref at least, right? He's got the handbook and every thing. Nope! He coaches Maginno's 12 & under team.

[MJallday59]

Man i'm still pissed at SVG for the 2009 Finals.....

Jameer f**#*# sucked....had we played Alston most of the time we would've won....

[MagicFan41]

People, we shot better from 3pt% than from 2pt% in the game! Yet you are all complaining that we shot too many 3s and we shouldve shot more 2pt fgs because they're a much higher %? Lol. We shot just about what we typically shoot as a team from 3pt fg%.....there wasn't anything wrong with that. The problem was we couldn't hit a 2 to save our lives. We shot 35.5% from 3pt fg% which is equivalent scoring-wise to shooting over 53% from 2pt fg%. We shot 35% in 2pters. I understand it isn't a perfect comparison, but lets not act like the 3pt shooting was the issue.....from a make/take standpoint, it's relatively similar to what we have been very successful in the past 3 years with. Not to mention, as guys get their legs and such, things will start to fall. This was the FIRST GAME BACK in like 8 months almost. You could def see it in Jameer's legs, and J-Rich's as the game went on. I was encouraged a bit by some times taking it to the hole a little more though, esp in the first half. It shouldn't be too surprising that the guys who trained all summer (boxing, training, working out, hiring personal coaches to rebound balls for them, etc) in Ryan and JJ were the guys who played the best. Anyways, I'm not going to go too crazy over one game, and I'm certainly not going to act like it was the 3pt % that killed us. Dwight played like crap, and Jameer played worse than any of us prob would've. I was impressed by Baby's defensive effort. Meer and Dwight obv won't play like that all year, so I'm not too worried about that. Outside of that, I wasn't really too disappointed in anybody.

These guys are professional athletes they shouldn't be feeling it in their legs the first preseason game of the season. What have they been doing during the lockout, playing video games?

Yes actually, Call of Duty to be precise for Dwight. I bet Jameer is a fan of Mario Kart tho...

[MagicFan41]

People, we shot better from 3pt% than from 2pt% in the game! Yet you are all complaining that we shot too many 3s and we shouldve shot more 2pt fgs because they're a much higher %? Lol. We shot just about what we typically shoot as a team from 3pt fg%.....there wasn't anything wrong with that. The problem was we couldn't hit a 2 to save our lives. We shot 35.5% from 3pt fg% which is equivalent scoring-wise to shooting over 53% from 2pt fg%. We shot 35% in 2pters. I understand it isn't a perfect comparison, but lets not act like the 3pt shooting was the issue.....from a make/take standpoint, it's relatively similar to what we have been very successful in the past 3 years with. Not to mention, as guys get their legs and such, things will start to fall. This was the FIRST GAME BACK in like 8 months almost. You could def see it in Jameer's legs, and J-Rich's as the game went on. I was encouraged a bit by some times taking it to the hole a little more though, esp in the first half. It shouldn't be too surprising that the guys who trained all summer (boxing, training, working out, hiring personal coaches to rebound balls for them, etc) in Ryan and JJ were the guys who played the best. Anyways, I'm not going to go too crazy over one game, and I'm certainly not going to act like it was the 3pt % that killed us. Dwight played like crap, and Jameer played worse than any of us prob would've. I was impressed by Baby's defensive effort. Meer and Dwight obv won't play like that all year, so I'm not too worried about that. Outside of that, I wasn't really too disappointed in anybody.

These guys are professional athletes they shouldn't be feeling it in their legs the first preseason game of the season. What have they been doing during the lockout, playing video games?

Or maybe Dwight has been playing NBA 2K12 and already traded himself to the Nets....so when he looked down tonight and saw blue, it totally screwed up his head. Utterly confused him. Hehe

[darthmerrick]

Man i'm still pissed at SVG for the 2009 Finals.....

Jameer f**#*# sucked....had we played Alston most of the time we would've won....

I don't blame Van Gundy as much for the 2009 loss. I blame Jameer for not tackling Fisher on just one of those made three pointers. I blame the refs for not calling goaltend when Gasol's hung on the rim and disrupted CLEE's shot. I blame Turk for walking away from the team in Game 4 & 5...completely checking out. What could have been!

[JNelson43]

Wow I forgot this was even happening. Its preseason basketball with very little time to prepare after doubts there would even be a season, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from people looking disinterested or off their game out there. Dwight won't be 2 of 9 very often this year, Jameer won't miss all his shots either.

[maginno]

And here I thought you were Puerto Rican! Some liquor makes you all kinds of crazy. I'm probably older then you son...but I am happily married with a job! I don't go to the DMV and collect unemployment like your daddy. In fact the taxes I pay from that paycheck are probably going towards your food, mommy's rent and your internet. Disappointing!

You think a playground comeback makes you sound mature? sometimes the title under the name says it all.

Did I say anything about driving to the hoop or pulling up for jumpshots?

Einstein how does a player get inside the arc if he does not break toward the basket. Does Scotty beam him in? You expend energy to get to a place where you can make a jump shot. Basketball 101.
You and others attempt to blame Stan's offense for a preseason loss where half the system is probably not even being run yet is pathetic. Its the first preseason game and you obviously were not watching the first quarter when all kinds of inside plays were being made or missed. What happened to your system argument there? Now turn off the lights and go to bed. Dream about having a wife some other night.

[MJallday59]

Man i'm still pissed at SVG for the 2009 Finals.....

Jameer f**#*# sucked....had we played Alston most of the time we would've won....

I don't blame Van Gundy as much for the 2009 loss. I blame Jameer for not tackling Fisher on just one of those made three pointers. I blame the refs for not calling goaltend when Gasol's hung on the rim and disrupted CLEE's shot. I blame Turk for walking away from the team in Game 4 & 5...completely checking out. What could have been!

Ugh...this makes me wanna vomit. What sucks is that we have the same team on the floor now. Management thinks this team can compete? FOH...This is bad...real bad, Michael Jackson :::Kanye Voice::::

[darthmerrick]

Wow I forgot this was even happening. Its preseason basketball with very little time to prepare after doubts there would even be a season, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from people looking disinterested or off their game out there. Dwight won't be 2 of 9 very often this year, Jameer won't miss all his shots either.

Duhon hopefully won't be touching the ball in the near future. We'll be alright this year as long as he's on the bench. The far far end of the bench. Where Ewing sits and flirts with the cheerleaders. Maybe just to be sure Duhon should be in a suit and tie so as not to tempt Stan to put him in.

[The Real Dalic]

Wow I forgot this was even happening. Its preseason basketball with very little time to prepare after doubts there would even be a season, I wouldn't draw any conclusions from people looking disinterested or off their game out there. Dwight won't be 2 of 9 very often this year, Jameer won't miss all his shots either.

This. but, i knew people on this board were going to overreact if we lost. and if we won they would've said "so who cares it's a preseason game". if we still play like that during the season than we have a problem. i expect us and most teams around the league to struggle at first due to the lockout.

[Sundamental]

yeah, this team's inability to recognise the difference Skip made by pushing the ball is just insane. i don't get why Jameer can't push the break, it's not like it's a challenging facet to add to your game. you get the ball and run...

No, you don't get the ball and run. You get the ball and pass. Does anyone here even understand this game?

http://nbaplaybook.com/2010/08/05/nba-h ... ast-break/

GTFO you arrogant prick.

If you have to watch videos to tell you how to play you're lost. You said all you have to do is get the ball and run. Actually the video you provide said the key to the break is the outlet pass. Get it? I may be arrogant, but at least I know what I'm talking about.

[Driguez]

Eh..

[Driguez]

I've been drinking........ANd i'll take that bet with anyone. You shoot 30 three pointers and I'll take 30 midrange shots. Whose going to make more wide open shots?

aint no liquor makes you that crazy son. The real problem is you need to turn off that light before your parents catch you up on the laptop posting past bed time. Get a good night sleep and get a basketball in the morning and play before the bell rings. You will notice it takes much more energy to either cut into the arc or drive within it then pull up for a shot than it is to simply stay out at the perimeter, release higher and extend your hands.

In short You are talking utter and absolute nonsense.

And here I thought you were Puerto Rican! Some liquor makes you all kinds of crazy. I'm probably older then you son...but I am happily married with a job! I don't go to the DMV and collect unemployment like your daddy. In fact the taxes I pay from that paycheck are probably going towards your food, mommy's rent and your internet. Disappointing!

Did I say anything about driving to the hoop or pulling up for jumpshots? Of course that exerts more energy. News flash T-MAC got traded to the Rockets 7 years ago. Our team doesn't have anyone that can drive to the hoop. What I said was we'd be better to reign in the threes and shoot more mid range jump shots.Higher percentage shots are what they teach you in the beginning of organized basketball. The point that myself and others are starting to make. Teams have figured us out and it's easy for them to get back and cover the three point line in our predictable offense. We need many things on this team right now. Continuing with this offense is the absolute nonsense part and it's crazy to think we can win if we stay with this offensive set.

[gp123]

Maybe getting beat like this will be a good thing. I'm so glad Dwight had a horrible game actually, because if he had put up decent numbers and the team collapsed he might completely check out... Most people would anyway.

Cant believe Dwight got worked on by Dexter... The one position where we are suppose to have a huge advantage against the heat. There's no way Dwight let's that happen again unless his mind is elsewhere.

Im hoping this "wake up call" will get everyones head back into basketball. I know Dwight hates losing so maybe everyone can be held accountable and come together.

[darthmerrick]

And here I thought you were Puerto Rican! Some liquor makes you all kinds of crazy. I'm probably older then you son...but I am happily married with a job! I don't go to the DMV and collect unemployment like your daddy. In fact the taxes I pay from that paycheck are probably going towards your food, mommy's rent and your internet. Disappointing!

You think a playground comeback makes you sound mature? sometimes the title under the name says it all.

Did I say anything about driving to the hoop or pulling up for jumpshots?

Einstein how does a player get inside the arc if he does not break toward the basket. Does Scotty beam him in? You expend energy to get to a place where you can make a jump shot. Basketball 101.
You and others attempt to blame Stan's offense for a preseason loss where half the system is probably not even being run yet is pathetic. Its the first preseason game and you obviously were not watching the first quarter when all kinds of inside plays were being made or missed. What happened to your system argument there? Now turn off the lights and go to bed. Dream about having a wife some other night.

Yet your mature with your comments? Quit hating on Star Wars. We got ten people in here with names like that.

Back to basketball.
How the hell does Big Baby always seem to get open for that game winning jumper? Wasn't JJ Reddick the best college basketball player in the country by coming off screens and hitting mid range jumpers? God, what is your deal with Stan? Anytime someone makes a negative comment about him your alarm goes off and "poof like some sort of slut magic you appear". My system argument is pretty simple. Stan's system worked at Wisconsin. It caught teams off guard in 2009. Then they adjusted he didn't! We sucked last year. Made a trade. Didn't go with his offensive scheme and won 9 in a row! Then he taught them his way. End result. We lost the division to the Heat and got bumped out of the first round by a team we swept the previous year.

[Hilltop]

I'm finding it very hard to be excited about the season.

1) The roster has barely changed. This is essentially the same team that got served by the Hawks in the 1st Round. Same group, same problems.

2) Making projections and talking about 'how to improve' seems pointless knowing Howard might not even be part of the future.

[EasternMagic]

Maggino has used to same insult since he signed up for this forum in 2007... If he doesn't like what you said, it means you're a 12 year old. Every time. A lot of people on this board have been 12 for a long time.