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Re: Discussing Other NBA Games 2.0 

Post#41 » by nate33 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:07 pm

How about McGee for Kanter?
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Post#42 » by pancakes3 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:24 pm

i'm tripping over myself for that deal
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Post#43 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:28 pm

Kanter is much better defensively and as a rebounder than I thought he would be. No way the Jazz take McGee for Kanter. The Jazz will part ways with Millsap first. His new contract, with him coming off the bench behind Favors is the giveaway that Paul Millsap is odd man out IMO. He and Ty Corbin are not on great terms. But as much as I love Millsap's game, I don't think he is worth that kind of money. The other high-priced Jazz PF is one IMO Utah also would part ways with: Al Jefferson

Al Jefferson is a top-tier scorer at PF. He is on a ridiculously expensive deal and not the most efficient player. Still, I think at his size he's okay at PF. If the Wizards amnestied Rashard, Blatche for Jefferson with perhaps a third team taking Andray could RADICALLY improve the Wizards. The Jazz might take on Andray as a backup C, but I doubt it.

Utah / Washington / and some third team like Miami could deal. Utah could use Mike Miller.
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Post#44 » by tontoz » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:31 pm

Ruzious wrote:Jon Leuer beasted for Milwaukee against Minny - and he did it without making any 3's. He's an interesting player - even if he doesn't fit any position. Keyon Dooling must have eaten his Wheaties yesterday.

Utah - is there a more lopsided roster in the NBA. All 4 of their top properties are PF's - Jefferson, Favors, Kanter, and Millsap. Kanter couldn't shoot in his first game but had 11 boards off the bench. Kanter could become the next KLove - though he's more low post and less perimeter. Hmm, the Wiz need a PF, and Utah has 4 of them...


LOL nice planning there.
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Post#45 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:49 pm

The pre draft scouting report on Kanter seems to be backwards. In his first 3 games hes averaging a respectable 8.6 rebounds (in 20 mpg) and his defense seems to be better than advertised. His only problem is he has hasn't done diddly offensively... albeit 3 games in.
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Post#46 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:51 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Kanter is much better defensively and as a rebounder than I thought he would be. No way the Jazz take McGee for Kanter. The Jazz will part ways with Millsap first. His new contract, with him coming off the bench behind Favors is the giveaway that Paul Millsap is odd man out IMO. He and Ty Corbin are not on great terms. But as much as I love Millsap's game, I don't think he is worth that kind of money. The other high-priced Jazz PF is one IMO Utah also would part ways with: Al Jefferson

Al Jefferson is a top-tier scorer at PF. He is on a ridiculously expensive deal and not the most efficient player. Still, I think at his size he's okay at PF. If the Wizards amnestied Rashard, Blatche for Jefferson with perhaps a third team taking Andray could RADICALLY improve the Wizards. The Jazz might take on Andray as a backup C, but I doubt it.

Utah / Washington / and some third team like Miami could deal. Utah could use Mike Miller.

I think you're probably right about the Kanter/McGee trade idea - Kanter's contract makes him really appealing. Javale would have to perform real well for Utah to do that, and if Javale is playing real well, do we really want to trade him? So, it's like a catch-22.

While I've never been a big Jefferson fan, I'd jump all over a Blatche for Jefferson trade - and throw in Vesely. I hear Jefferson's gotten himself in real good shape.
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Post#47 » by nate33 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:01 pm

Just for edification, we cannot amnesty Rashard Lewis to facilitate a trade this year. The window of opportunity has closed on that idea. Rashard had to be amnestied before the start of the season.

We must now wait until next summer to amnesty Rashard.
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Post#48 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:05 pm

nate33 wrote:Just for edification, we cannot amnesty Rashard Lewis to facilitate a trade this year. The window of opportunity has closed on that idea. Rashard had to be amnestied before the start of the season.

We must now wait until next summer to amnesty Rashard.

Thanks for edifying--I did not know that, nate.

In that case, the Wizards can't do any big-contract-acquiring deal. Pity.
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Post#49 » by verbal8 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:28 pm

nate33 wrote:Just for edification, we cannot amnesty Rashard Lewis to facilitate a trade this year. The window of opportunity has closed on that idea. Rashard had to be amnestied before the start of the season.

We must now wait until next summer to amnesty Rashard.


It would make little sense to amnesty Rashard Lewis rather than buying him out even if it isn't much of a discount from his guaranteed contract.
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Post#50 » by tontoz » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:35 pm

verbal8 wrote:
nate33 wrote:Just for edification, we cannot amnesty Rashard Lewis to facilitate a trade this year. The window of opportunity has closed on that idea. Rashard had to be amnestied before the start of the season.

We must now wait until next summer to amnesty Rashard.


It would make little sense to amnesty Rashard Lewis rather than buying him out even if it isn't much of a discount from his guaranteed contract.



I haven't looked over it very much but i was thinking it might make more sense to buy out Lewis and amnesty Blatche who is signed through 2015 i believe.
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Post#51 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:48 pm

tontoz wrote:
verbal8 wrote:
nate33 wrote:Just for edification, we cannot amnesty Rashard Lewis to facilitate a trade this year. The window of opportunity has closed on that idea. Rashard had to be amnestied before the start of the season.

We must now wait until next summer to amnesty Rashard.


It would make little sense to amnesty Rashard Lewis rather than buying him out even if it isn't much of a discount from his guaranteed contract.



I haven't looked over it very much but i was thinking it might make more sense to buy out Lewis and amnesty Blatche who is signed through 2015 i believe.

I'm thinking - amnesty Lewis in 2012/2013 and amnesty Blatch - if needed - in 2013/2014. Blatche is signed through 2014/2015.

Thing is - if you amnesty Blatche, you still have to pay him - and having to pay him 7-8 mil a year for 3 years - while he's out getting fatter every day - is not appealing.
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Post#52 » by Ruzious » Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:51 pm

verbal8 wrote:
nate33 wrote:Just for edification, we cannot amnesty Rashard Lewis to facilitate a trade this year. The window of opportunity has closed on that idea. Rashard had to be amnestied before the start of the season.

We must now wait until next summer to amnesty Rashard.


It would make little sense to amnesty Rashard Lewis rather than buying him out even if it isn't much of a discount from his guaranteed contract.

They'd clear a big chunk of cap change if they amnesty him - that they would NOT get if they bought him out at a small discount.
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Post#53 » by tontoz » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:09 pm

So we can amnesty more than 1 player as long as they are different years? I was under the impression that it was a 1 time option but i am not sure.
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Post#54 » by verbal8 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:26 pm

tontoz wrote:So we can amnesty more than 1 player as long as they are different years? I was under the impression that it was a 1 time option but i am not sure.

The wording is a little fuzzy, but I am pretty sure it is a one time thing.
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Post#55 » by LyricalRico » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:47 am

DJ White looking decent against Miami. I didn't realize he was that tall.
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Post#56 » by closg00 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:47 am

Bobcats hanging with the Heat toe-to-toe in the 3rd, are the Cats the surprise team this year?
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Post#57 » by willbcocks » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:22 am

No, heat had a big game against Boston the night before. Boston looked dead too.

+1 to the kanter trade idea, big -1 to trading for Al Jefferson. He's a terrible team player and not what we need at all.
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Post#58 » by queridiculo » Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:27 am

The time to get Kanter was before the draft. No team in their right mind is going to give up a lottery pick at this point unless you blow them out of the water with a can't refuse offer.

Is he really worth Vesely and next years lottery pick? Didn't think so, which is precisely why you won't see Kanter in a Wizards uniform anytime soon.
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Post#59 » by pancakes3 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:21 am

yikes, westbrook dropping an o-fer tonight. jeepers.

edit: also, the secret on rudy fernandez is about to be blown sky high. dude is about to be on the lips of casual fans everywhere. the time to acquire him for cheap is now passed.
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Post#60 » by LyricalRico » Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:59 pm

willbcocks wrote:big -1 to trading for Al Jefferson. He's a terrible team player and not what we need at all.


I actually woudln't mind adding Jefferson since he's got a post game, depending of course on what we gave up (see: Blatche).

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