Our Projected Depth Chart

[montestewart]

Wall has more rebounds per 36 than Crawford, the difference being on the defensive end.

[pancakes3]

hands. i wouldn't be objecting to your voluminous posts as much if you didn't go back and tell us all "this is what i've been saying" so much. it loses its meaning and is disproportionately infuriating when you type out every single possible permutation and when one hits you drop the "i've been SAYING this" bomb on someone. nobody has any idea what stance you have because a) nobody reads ALL of your posts and b) your posts run the gamut in all possible stances. nick is good, nick is bad, blatche needs to start, blatche seems comfortable as a 6th man, flip is good, flip isn't developing our talent... and then BOOM. "i've been saying this..." it's a bad look for you.

kind of a sermon, but also a viable thought.

[montestewart]

Sorry, you said Nick Young, yeah, he's definitely behind Crawford

[hands11]

So why do I still watch?

To see if Wall can play with in himself and run the offense and add a change of pace move. I saw one change of pace last game and it looked great. He played a little more like Rondo and didnt force his shot. 3-8 shooting was better. He needs to focus on the long term and not try to over play to win now. Now doesn't matter in the W column as much as development for later when it matters.

To watch Mack settle in as a back up PG

To see Singleton settling in. He needs to exert himself offensively more. I expect more from him that what I saw last game. Only two shots. That isnt going to cut it as the starting SF.

To see Booker one handed rebounds and manly play while he tries to find the level of play where he left off last year.

Vesely - I'm not so focused on him right now. Any minute he gets helps him develop but there is more time for him to develop.

To see McGee work on his drop step and hook. Play with in yourself young man. The outside shot is fine but lets not get carried away. Get back to focusing on rebounds, defense and blocked shots.

To see KS establish his game. He did some good things late last game. Nice touch close in. With playing time the game should start to slow down for him. He rushed a hook shot.

This is what this season is about. Its about these 7 players. Three rookies, three 2nd year players and McGee. Everyone else is on the bubble or likely to be replaced by next year except maybe Ronny who works well at the center rotation as a vet. I would consider resigning him.

PG - Starting and back up
SG - No real answers I'm sold on yet
SF - One possible starter may only be a back up
PF - One possible starter may only be a back up and and a project starter rookie in Vesely.
C - A starter and maybe a back up

Wall/Mack
??
Singleton
Booker/Vesely
McGee/KS/Ronny ( Hamady ?)

These are the pieces I see them keeping and I'm fine with that for the rebuild. You can add a high draft pick and FAs and grow with those pieces. That is a pretty inexpensive roster and a culture rebuild. 28M or so. This is the rebuild plan. They were not designed to win this year. It is about development, evaluation and a high draft pick. KS should get a lot of minutes this year at center and eventually PF. Maybe they only win 10-12 games. They should be able to get more assets for Crawford and Dray.

Now I would have rather they went with my draft suggestions. Morris, Brooks, Harper but it is what it is. They went with more D first and found some nice players. But if Brooks becomes a true stud, that will be the big mistake. Wall and Brooks may have ended up being a special pairing for years to come. Brooks was the one player in that draft I thought they had to get because of his potential to be that lead dog special player at the 2. Dare I say the next Kobe type player.

[montestewart]

hands. i wouldn't be objecting to your voluminous posts as much if you didn't go back and tell us all "this is what i've been saying" so much. it loses its meaning and is disproportionately infuriating when you type out every single possible permutation and when one hits you drop the "i've been SAYING this" bomb on someone. nobody has any idea what stance you have because a) nobody reads ALL of your posts and b) your posts run the gamut in all possible stances. nick is good, nick is bad, blatche needs to start, blatche seems comfortable as a 6th man, flip is good, flip isn't developing our talent... and then BOOM. "i've been saying this..." it's a bad look for you.

kind of a sermon, but also a viable thought.

That's what I've been saying...

[hands11]

hands. i wouldn't be objecting to your voluminous posts as much if you didn't go back and tell us all "this is what i've been saying" so much. it loses its meaning and is disproportionately infuriating when you type out every single possible permutation and when one hits you drop the "i've been SAYING this" bomb on someone. nobody has any idea what stance you have because a) nobody reads ALL of your posts and b) your posts run the gamut in all possible stances. nick is good, nick is bad, blatche needs to start, blatche seems comfortable as a 6th man, flip is good, flip isn't developing our talent... and then BOOM. "i've been saying this..." it's a bad look for you.

kind of a sermon, but also a viable thought.

1) No one reads everyones posts. Specially longer ones. I don't. Some I do.
2) I'm not the only one who points out their past positions and when they were correct.
2b ) where did I do that here - "i've been SAYING this"
3) I hardly run the gamut in all possible stances. That is total BS
4) I said I had better hopes for Nick this year but he isn't living up to them. So what.
5) I have haven't been inconsistant about Dray at all.
6) I have haven't been inconsistant about Flip at all and I haven't been saying he isn't developing their talent.

Look. If you don't like what I post, don't read it. I don't care for every poster on the board but I don't bother the board complaining about it. If I find them excessively childish and negative, I just put them on block and I read them when the post count is lower. If that changes over time, I take them off block. No big deal.

[pancakes3]

https://www.google.com/search?q=site:fo ... 99&bih=675

hardly a thorough or comprehensive search but it shows you've done it 3x in the past month, which in retrospect is probably a very small % of your overall posts.

i'm not trying to openly antagonize you, or troll you. i thought i'd just offer advice that would make the forum a more enjoyable experience for all, you included. there seems to be some negative reactions to your posts and posting style and i just wanted to help. specifically, there are some on this board that feel like you try to use this board as your own personal blog.

i'm sorry you're taking the "if you don't like it, don't read it" approach. i agree that you have the freedom to post the way you want and as often as you want... legally. i just wanted to remind you that this board is in fact a community and sometimes we make concessions for a community even though technically we don't "have to". think of these posts as me gently hinting that you take down your christmas lights because it's already halfway through january. true, if i don't like it, i don't have to look at your house but it'd still be nice as a common courtesy.

[nate33]

I think it is time to make yet another change. Put Crawford back in the starting line up. At least he rebounds and has fight in him. Nick seems in a mental slump and I think I am ready to let him go longer term. I had hopes for him this year but he just doesn't seem to have head and heart I want.

Jordan Crawford is completely unsalvageable as an NBA player. Starting him is the last thing I'd do. I'd sooner cut him and find someone from the D League (or Roger Mason) to replace him.

[hands11]

I think it is time to make yet another change. Put Crawford back in the starting line up. At least he rebounds and has fight in him. Nick seems in a mental slump and I think I am ready to let him go longer term. I had hopes for him this year but he just doesn't seem to have head and heart I want.

Jordan Crawford is completely unsalvageable as an NBA player. Starting him is the last thing I'd do. I'd sooner cut him and find someone from the D League (or Roger Mason) to replace him.

But what about for next game given what they have ? That is what I was working with.

Nick or Crawford ?

I don't likely think they will start Mason though it is an interesting thought I hadnt really considered since he hasnt been playing and from what others have posted, his D isnt all that good.

But at least he would be in the proper position on offense and a threat to quick shoot a 3. Maybe he finds his range. Start or not, I want more Cow Bell this next game from Mason.

SG is a mess for this team. Who knows what the right thing to do there is anymore. During the offseason, I thought Wall, Nick and Crawford was a powerful combo. Not looking so much like that right now. That spot is wide open for a new player or two next year.

[hands11]

Finally a full roster again and Flip continues to roll out different line ups. Over the last few games we have seen him start to play Wall, Crawford, Nick with various combination up front.

Now Flip put Vesely at center in the middle of a tight OKC game. ( the 2nd win )
Wall, Crawford, Nick, Booker and Vesely.

Last time they had a full roster, Dray came off the bench with
Wall, Nick , Singleton, Booker and McGee starting. That was their first win.

This time, Flip started
Wall, Nick , Singleton, Dray and McGee

The offense was terrible everything Dray and McGee were out there together. Personally, I hate this combination. Flip commented after the game that it has been a problem. Hopefully he changes the starting line up again. He either needs to start Dray or McGee or he has to go with

Wall, Crawford, Nick , Dray and McGee
I think that would be a mistake. It ruins the bench. Start Nick or Crawford and Dray or McGee.

Should be interesting to see what he does.

Just to reiterate. The only two time they have had their full roster ( minus Ronny ) they have won. Hopefully they can stay healthy so we can see some better basketball.

[Nivek]

Now that Flip is gone, how about a return to what the rotation should be:

PG: Wall - Mack
SG: Young - Crawford
SF: Singleton - Lewis
PF: Booker - Vesely
C: McGee - Blatche

And be looking for any opportunity to trade Blatche for an expiring.

[Dat2U]

How bout this:

PG Wall / Mack
SG Young / Crawford
SF Vesely / Singleton
PF Lewis / Booker
CE McGee / Blatche / Seraphin

I think Lewis is better off at the 4, Ves is more comfortable defending smaller/quicker players. Lewis' range compensates of Ves' lack of skill. I think they might complement each other well.

[TGW]

How bout this:

PG Wall / Mack
SG Young / Crawford
SF Vesely / Singleton
PF Lewis / Booker
CE McGee / Blatche / Seraphin

I think Lewis is better off at the 4, Ves is more comfortable defending smaller/quicker players. Lewis' range compensates of Ves' lack of skill. I think they might complement each other well.

I was thinking this as well, except keeping Singleton as the starter at the 3 because he can at least spread the floor a bit better than Vesely would.

But my first duty as coach would be to put my best shooters out on the floor at all times. Spread the floor out and let Wall attack the hoop. Try and play some pick and pop with Wall and Lewis.

[nate33]

I can't see a good reason not to start Booker. He's second on the team (behind Young) in on/off differential and is first in win shares per 48. He's second in offensive rating (to Mack) and is probably our best overall defender other than Wall. Vesely at this point is too unskilled to be anything but an energy guy off the bench.

I'm ambivilant on whether Singleton or Lewis should start at SF. Singleton has actually been the more efficient shooter, but on lower volume. I'd probably lean toward starting Singleton because I think he's more dependant than Lewis on having good offenive players around him. At least with the starters, there's Wall, Young and McGee to be primary options.

I'd go with Nivek's lineup:
G: Wall - Mack
SG: Young - Crawford
SF: Singleton - Lewis
PF: Booker - Vesely
C: McGee - Blatche

[LyricalRico]

I definitely want Booker/Singleton in the starting lineup cuz they've got a nice chemistry between them IMO. Maybe move Lewis to the 4, but off the bench?

G: Wall - Mack
SG: Young - Crawford
SF: Singleton - Vesely
PF: Booker - Lewis
C: McGee - Blatche

But I guess at that point you're just talking semantics since both Lewis and Vesely are essentially combo forwards who will switch off based on matchups.

[hands11]

I definitely want Booker/Singleton in the starting lineup cuz they've got a nice chemistry between them IMO. Maybe move Lewis to the 4, but off the bench?

G: Wall - Mack
SG: Young - Crawford
SF: Singleton - Vesely
PF: Booker - Lewis
C: McGee - Blatche

But I guess at that point you're just talking semantics since both Lewis and Vesely are essentially combo forwards who will switch off based on matchups.

That is the line up that they beat TOR with that I have been posting about ever since, only it was

G: Wall - Mack
SG: Young - Crawford
SF: Singleton - Lewis
PF: Booker - Vesely
C: McGee - Blatche

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320110027

They didnt really have a lot of opportunities to repeat it because someone was always injured. They could have done it last game but Randy gave Ves and Lewis the start instead. Hopefully they get back to this. Come out with strong D, then bring in some scoring. Only twist is I think they find minutes for KS so Booker plays a few less so they move the pieces around so he gets on the court a little each game.

I wonder if Ves will stay the starter after last game.

G: Wall - Mack
SG: Young - Crawford
SF: Singleton - Lewis - Nick
PF: Vesely - Booker - KS
C: McGee - Blatche - KS

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Just a funny thought about Nick Young, and how we say we gotta replace this guy, but the dude is a sweet scorer which ultimately is what the shooting guard is for. He is smooth, and a flat out dynamic scorer who can get us buckets when the offense is otherwise stumped. And he's always very quotable in his postgames. I mean, definately I wish for the day Nick wakes up and gets it. But otherwise he ultimately is our Calbert Cheaney. The guy you keep saying we gotta replace him, and next thing you know he's been here 10 yrs. He is the starting SG of the Washington Wizards. This generation's Jeff Malone.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I'm not sure what's up with Blatche, but with our current roster, and style of play being employed by Wittman, I'd like to see Blatche start at Center. Allow McGee to come in off the bench is spurts suited to his asthma, come in for energy and momentum boosting blocks and dunks. Utilize Blatche's offense and passing skills at center, flanked by energetic defenders Vesely and Singleton at the forwards.

Start Blatche, Vesely, Singleton, Young, Wall
Come off the bench with McGee, Booker, Lewis, Crawford, Mack

[sfam]

I'm not sure what's up with Blatche, but with our current roster, and style of play being employed by Wittman, I'd like to see Blatche start at Center. Allow McGee to come in off the bench is spurts suited to his asthma, come in for energy and momentum boosting blocks and dunks. Utilize Blatche's offense and passing skills at center, flanked by energetic defenders Vesely and Singleton at the forwards.

Start Blatche, Vesely, Singleton, Young, Wall
Come off the bench with McGee, Booker, Lewis, Crawford, Mack

The problem with this strategy is Blatche's total lack of defense. Even overweight, Blatche has developed some reliable veteran moves. As long as he isn't forced to jump a phone book or dunk or anything, and doesn't take 20 foot shots, Blatche "could" be very productive on offense. Unfortunately, Blatche jacks up bad shots even more frequently than Crawford. Worse, and more damning, Blatche just can't play pro-level defense right now. Because our offense sucks so bad, the only way we stay in games is playing solid defense, so no, that approach of starting Blatche over McGee would not be something I would favor.

[Dat2U]

Wall (36 minutes) / Mack (12 minutes)
Young (28 minutes) / Crawford (20 minutes)
Vesely (24 minutes) / Singleton (24 minutes)
Lewis (28 minutes) / Booker (20 minutes)
McGee (32 minutes) / Seraphin (16 minutes)

Bench Blatche. Don't allow him to return until he gets into shape and can pass a challenging conditioning test (he doesn't pass, he doesn't play). Forget trying to build his trade value. He can't do it in his current condition.

Let Seraphin get ALL of the backup C minutes. It's time for him to sink or swim and we'll need to make a decision on whether to exercise the option on his rookie deal this off-season.

Have Ves & Lewis switch positions defensively. Ves has the athleticism and length to create havoc on the perimeter while allowing Lewis to bang with slower players. Lewis is key because he allows for spacing when Ves is on the floor. I'd always play those two together.