1/16 Orlando Postgame thread

[ctorres]

Start Novak, we get killed on defense; start Balkman, we get killed on offense; start Jeffries, we get killed on offense and, TBH, he can't guard shooting guards either...he's a team defender, not a one on one defender. We have no other option. Give up.

give up...hilarious dude that is ur response...we are 6-7 and go back to every game log SG's already kill us...not sure why u can't grasp that point.

He does grasp the point. But he also grasps that just looking across the bench and thinking our savior is there isn't doing much for us either.

The only point guard AND shooting guard worth a damn right now on our team is Shumpert. Every single other option we have at the 1 and 2 is hot garbage. Shumpert can't play both positions on both ends at the same time, so which ever position is the one he is not playing is the one we find ourselves considerably weak.

Really, it's gotten so bad that we want to start Shumpert at PG, MELO at SG, and then hope to God that Balkman or Jeffries can save us at SF.

[Pharmcat]

I think for the offense to work Fields has to breakout of his slump (it isn't happening if it hasn't yet) or Novak should be on the floor, even if Melo has to defend the SG.

For our offense to work, our players need to be able to play to their strengths. For the Knicks they may be better off playing Balkman over Fields (Balkman isn't a SG but neither is Fields). Hope that Balkman provides the same kind of spark and energy that Shumpert has and fire up the flow of the game some. The Knicks are really best right now when they are attacking and playing aggressive. That's when the choatic (but affective) defense works. That's also when the offense seems to have more life and motion. Fields obviously isn't working and Novak is clearly not one that can guard SG's.

this is exactly why this team is bad

people want balkman to be playing SG

and this is a win now team? clamoring for balkman to play? thats how desperate things have come and shows their average record

[god shammgod]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

it was a close game until the last 4 minutes when we couldn't score against the zone.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Start Novak, we get killed on defense; start Balkman, we get killed on offense; start Jeffries, we get killed on offense and, TBH, he can't guard shooting guards either...he's a team defender, not a one on one defender. We have no other option. Give up.

give up...hilarious dude that is ur response...we are 6-7 and go back to every game log SG's already kill us...not sure why u can't grasp that point.

He does grasp the point. But he also grasps that just looking across the bench and thinking our savior is there isn't doing much for us either.

The only point guard AND shooting guard worth a damn right now on our team is Shumpert. Every single other option we have at the 1 and 2 is hot garbage. Shumpert can't play both positions on both ends at the same time, so which ever position is the one he is not playing is the one we find ourselves considerably weak.

Really, it's gotten so bad that we want to start Shumpert at PG, MELO at SG, and then hope to God that Balkman or Jeffries can save us at SF.

PREACH!

[Pharmcat]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

keith bogans

[NBA Fan 1234]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

keith bogans

Nobody is against trying to sign him.

[god shammgod]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

keith bogans

Nobody is against trying to sign him.

apparently management is

[nyknicks2k2]

I can't believe how open Fields kept leaving JJ. Once he hit 2 open was, the dude was gonna start feeling it.

[moocow007]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

keith bogans

Thank you!! What the freak is the front office doing?!?!? Get Bogans already. At least he's a real guard, can guard guards and shoot the 3. Pharm, go wake Grunwald up!!!!

[Falstaffxx]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

it was a close game until the last 4 minutes when we couldn't score against the zone.

It was maddening to see two guys passing it back and forth on the perimeter as if something was going to change about the situation if they just passed it back one more time.

[br7knicks]

If we had an actual head coach I believe we match up pretty well with Orlando. I'd like to see them in a 7-game playoff series in round 1.

i said this at the beginning of the game in the game thread. i said i like the knicks starting team match ups over the magic

[mpharris36]

2's vs fields:

Ray Allen 7-12 20 pts
Monta Ellis 22 pts 8 assits
Kobe 10-17 28 pts
Marcus Thortan 14 pts
Demar Derozan 21 pts on 7-13 shooting
Gerald Henderson 24 pts on 10-13 shooting
Nick Young 24 pts
Tony Allen 12 pts with mayo 18 pts
James Harden 24 pts 8-12 shooting
JJ Reddick 21 pts 8-12 shooting


all while fields is avg 7 pts a game??? u can't be serious sticking up for fields as the starting 2 guard! He is shooting 41% and awful from 3!

[god shammgod]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

it was a close game until the last 4 minutes when we couldn't score against the zone.

It was maddening to see two guys passing it back and forth on the perimeter as if something was going to change about the situation if they just passed it back one more time.

they were scared to shoot. guys aren't playing with confidence. a hobbled melo was the only one willing to take the shots.

[NBA Fan 1234]

2's vs fields:

Ray Allen 7-12 20 pts
Monta Ellis 22 pts 8 assits
Kobe 10-17 28 pts
Marcus Thortan 14 pts
Demar Derozan 21 pts on 7-13 shooting
Gerald Henderson 24 pts on 10-13 shooting
Nick Young 24 pts
Tony Allen 12 pts with mayo 18 pts
James Harden 24 pts 8-12 shooting
JJ Reddick 21 pts 8-12 shooting


all while fields is avg 7 pts a game??? u can't be serious sticking up for fields as the starting 2 guard! He is shooting 41% and awful from 3!

We have NO other option! Holy sh*t. It's like I'm talking to myself.

[moocow007]

8-12 from Reddick is what killed us. Since the Knicks don't have many 2 way guys they need to let their big money guys worry about offense and bring in more guys on defense that can stop guys like Reddick from going crazy.

it was a close game until the last 4 minutes when we couldn't score against the zone.

The Knicks allowed the Magic to score 29 points in the 4th so not only could they not score against the zone, they couldn't prevent the Magic from scoring.

[mjp4eva86]

Watching the game I caught a glance of Larry Huughes on the Magic Bench and I thought to myself, "Man I wish he was our starting 2." I'm sure he can keep up with other 2s in the league and i can't imagine how he could be worst then what we are working with now, and he's cheap...

[br7knicks]

yeah, but balkman is showing improvement on offense. JJ still doesn''t know that he's allowed to touch the ball

What improvement has Balkman shown? Let's be real here.

Balkman has made one three point shot this entire season, ONE!

Most of Balkman's points this season haven't come from jumpers. Most of them are still the clean-up type buckets he got back in his rookie season.

ok. i didn't call him ray allen. i said he showed improvement. he's less of a liability on offense than JJ. that's what i was saying

[moocow007]

2's vs fields:

Ray Allen 7-12 20 pts
Monta Ellis 22 pts 8 assits
Kobe 10-17 28 pts
Marcus Thortan 14 pts
Demar Derozan 21 pts on 7-13 shooting
Gerald Henderson 24 pts on 10-13 shooting
Nick Young 24 pts
Tony Allen 12 pts with mayo 18 pts
James Harden 24 pts 8-12 shooting
JJ Reddick 21 pts 8-12 shooting


all while fields is avg 7 pts a game??? u can't be serious sticking up for fields as the starting 2 guard! He is shooting 41% and awful from 3!

Yeah Fields needs to be taken out of the starting lineup. He's killing the team with his ineptitude on both ends. Even if Balkman can't score, at least he can hopefully stop the other player from having field days (pardon the pun). Can't be any more futile than Fields has been.

[br7knicks]

Start Novak, we get killed on defense; start Balkman, we get killed on offense; start Jeffries, we get killed on offense and, TBH, he can't guard shooting guards either...he's a team defender, not a one on one defender. We have no other option. Give up.

Paco gets it.

Exactly

so amare, melo, TD, and davis are being paid to not put up points?

[mpharris36]

they are content with a 6-7 record...this is our roster for the rest of the season pretty much with the addition of davis and that should help....but fields can no longer play the 2! do i seriously need to show u the performances opposing twos have put up against fields this yr?

You constantly say that Fields shouldn't start...and everyone here agrees. But, you have yet to give us a suggestion that actually makes sense.

start shump at the 2 and tony at the 1...start balkman at the 3 and melo at the 2. start bibby at the 1 and shumpert at the two.

I would even be willing to start jeffries or novak at the 3 and move melo to the 2.

That is how much i think landry kills us at the 2!