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Post#421 » by GONYK » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:50 am

KnicksGod wrote:Gallo would be a bench player too if he was on better teams. I remember Turk early on and he showed many flashes of high quality. I think Turk has always been the bigger talent.

You guys make like he scores 37 regularly.

No, he wouldn't. He's on one of the better teams in the league right now.
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Post#422 » by BBALLER4FR » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:50 am

duetta wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/sports/basketball/gallinaris-career-high-37-points-help-nuggets-top-knicks-in-double-overtime.html


“I’ve been in situations like this before, when shots don’t go in,” said Anthony, who is 35 for 105 over the last four games.


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That $h!t right there folks! Avging 26 shots a game @ a 33% clip? And people want to call me out for saying something because "without Melo we wouldn't even be watching an overtime game"? Keep this crap of a superstar. Unless he walks the walk and stops being a knucklehead I'll revel in all of his misfortune just as much as I revel in Amare's and Mike's. All 3 are stubborn and all 3 share a 33% claim in the disaster of a season. But I will say at least Amare did the right thing today... 4-9 shooting and as a result the role players played better.
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Post#423 » by TKF » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:51 am

Gallo would be a bench player too if he was on better teams. I remember Turk early on and he showed many flashes of high quality. I think Turk has always been the bigger talent.

You guys make like he scores 37 regularly.


KG come on man.. gallo is one of the best players on one of the better teams in the league man....

turk is not in the same league as gallo.. real talk.. at 23 gallo is as good as turk is now.. at 23 turk was bench bum....underachieving jump shooting brick for brains player....
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Post#424 » by TKF » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:52 am

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KnicksGod wrote:So tell me what McD'Antoni said RE: Walker? I'm not following. Sounds terrible though.

How did Fiekds do? Numbers were good.

I don't think Gallo is as good as Turk was at this young age TKF. But bad night to make the point.

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A simple look at Hedo's stats says otherwise.

Hedo was a 7/3/1 player at age 23 like Gallo. He didnt get going until he went to Orlando at age 25, and even then he was only a 14/4/3 player for 3 years until he exploded for 20/6/5 at age 28 in 07-08. He quickly came back down to earth after that season though. Gallo is without a doubt a better all around player than Hedo was.

I know you dont like Gallo but get real.


i was about to go pull the stats, but you beat me to it.. thanks...
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Post#425 » by TrueWarrior » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:57 am

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Knicker23 wrote:Sham having a "bias" for a guy on our team is in no way similar to TkF continuing to talk about a EX PLAYER

Gallo is an ex player.. No longer a Knick.. A Nugget... How long must we constantly have to hear about a player that used to be on the team? 2 yrs? 3 yrs? Till hes traded from Nuggets? Till you find a new fav player

It's redic annoying to have to put up w... If you're a gallo fan, go be one in the nuggets forum..


Its funny to hear you say that, because you were worse than Sham was regarding Melo last year... while he was a Nugget. Hypocritical ya think? After every loss Pre Melo guys like you would chime into threads begging for Melo. Saying we needed a star. Gallo, Chandler & co. werent going to cut it. All that bootyful stuff. He wasnt a Knick yet thats all everybody talked about.

People are going to talk about Denver. People are going to talk about Gallo. You dont have to like it but its not going to stop until Melo shows he was worth it. That simple. Im over the trade actually. I never liked it but Im over it. That doesnt mean I will never mention it or Gallo again however. The Melo trade has a huge effect on everything. From our current state to our future. Its not going away. Accept it.



There's a difference between talking about a guy we're in the running for getting / about to get, and talking about a guy that used to be on our team that no longer is, and never will be again..

It's holding on to the past..... This was a game where it's expected obviously..Gallo played well... But people need to move on... No matter how bad the team gets, no matter how good the other team is, no matter how wrong or right you like to think you are - it isn't going to change anything... How long do we have to put up with bitching about a deal, 'what it represented' this and that and the other thing... We did a trade, and now we have a new team...


Baloney. There is no difference. We were trying to support the players actually on the Knicks while you guys were slobbering all over Melo's boriqua junk. Who cares if there was a chance hed come here? That means he deserves 50 100 page threads while everyone shat all over our current team? Melo could have easily not come here like 95% of every other rumor we've heard the past 10 years.

And again guys like you are more annoying than the guys who bring up the trade. The trade was the BIGGEST TRADE IN NBA HISTORY. Its going to get talked about and its not going to stop. Especially as we sit here 6-10 with not many ways to improve, thanks to said trade. People talked about the Ewing, Marbury, Crawford, Curry, Francis, Zach, TMac trades alot after they happened, but because its Melo hes off limits? Get out of here. Those trades shaped how bad the Knicks were the past decade, and right now the Melo trade doesnt look like its much better. Hes a better player than anybody we've had recently, but the results are not much different.

I think people need to accept the trade is going to get talked about, and to not to get so butthurt and take it so personal when it does. It doesnt mean people arent over the trade. It happened. Everyone knows we cant go back in time, but the Melo trade completely changed the future for this franchise, for better or worse is yet to be determined.
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Post#426 » by br7knicks » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:57 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
duetta wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/sports/basketball/gallinaris-career-high-37-points-help-nuggets-top-knicks-in-double-overtime.html


“I’ve been in situations like this before, when shots don’t go in,” said Anthony, who is 35 for 105 over the last four games.


:o
That $h!t right there folks! Avging 26 shots a game @ a 33% clip? And people want to call me out for saying something because "without Melo we wouldn't even be watching an overtime game"? Keep this crap of a superstar. Unless he walks the walk and stops being a knucklehead I'll revel in all of his misfortune just as much as I revel in Amare's and Mike's. All 3 are stubborn and all 3 share a 33% claim in the disaster of a season. But I will say at least Amare did the right thing today... 4-9 shooting and as a result the role players played better.


exactly. like i've been saying, as of since he's arrived, melo has been nothing short (or better than) of al harrington
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Post#427 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:58 am

KnicksGod wrote:Gallo would be a bench player too if he was on better teams. I remember Turk early on and he showed many flashes of high quality. I think Turk has always been the bigger talent.

You guys make like he scores 37 regularly.


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Post#428 » by dk7th » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:59 am

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Gallo would be a bench player too if he was on better teams. I remember Turk early on and he showed many flashes of high quality. I think Turk has always been the bigger talent.

You guys make like he scores 37 regularly.
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the nuggets are 12-5 this season with .700 winning percentage and 30-12 since the trade with a .750 winning percentage. gallinari has a 60% TS percentage during this stretch. this season he is right about where durant is and just 2% behind the game's best player.

you may need to take a closer look at what makes for a positive-sum player.
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Post#429 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:59 am

KnicksGod wrote:
I don't think Gallo is as good as Turk was at this young age TKF. But bad night to make the point.



It's tough to compare because Turk wasn't getting the same type of minutes at age 23, but overall I can't agree with this statement.
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Post#430 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:00 am

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If we're just as bad with an interim coach, that's almost a validation of the failed experiment and would be worth knowing. Then the front office will have even more incentive to make serious changes rather than deluding themselves a different coach can fix a badly constructed team. I don't see how you can lose replacing D'Antoni now.


If Baron returns and can get healthy, I'd much rather have D'antoni as the coach than Woodson, or whoever else may replace him. That's why I would hesitate to get rid of him before then. Say what you will about D'antoni, but give him a solid point guard and offense won't be a problem. I don't see enough of an upside to firing him at this point in the season.


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Post#431 » by GONYK » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:01 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
If we're just as bad with an interim coach, that's almost a validation of the failed experiment and would be worth knowing. Then the front office will have even more incentive to make serious changes rather than deluding themselves a different coach can fix a badly constructed team. I don't see how you can lose replacing D'Antoni now.


If Baron returns and can get healthy, I'd much rather have D'antoni as the coach than Woodson, or whoever else may replace him. That's why I would hesitate to get rid of him before then. Say what you will about D'antoni, but give him a solid point guard and offense won't be a problem. I don't see enough of an upside to firing him at this point in the season.


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Post#432 » by DuckTales » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:02 am

There are some horrible posts by people here trying to justify the trade and Carmelo. It's getting sad.

Isiah Era deja vu.

Same people with the gifs and the sarcastic posts will eventually realize the error of their ways but it will be too late.
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Post#433 » by PeteW » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:03 am

Will always be a fan of gallo.. love his game, seems like a good guy, easy to root for.. but hes not a knick anymore.. the deal is done and it is what it is.. Its time to look at the problems we have with this current team and see how we can go forward.. whats the point of thinking what could have been or who won the trade and all this nonsense..

some "fans" might want to check themselves and switch allegiances if they feel differently.. The Denver board will always be open..
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Post#434 » by JohnStarksTheDunk » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:03 am

TKF wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:So tell me what McD'Antoni said RE: Walker? I'm not following. Sounds terrible though.

How did Fiekds do? Numbers were good.

I don't think Gallo is as good as Turk was at this young age TKF. But bad night to make the point.

Only McD our fast food coach would let Free Candy bury us.


A simple look at Hedo's stats says otherwise.

Hedo was a 7/3/1 player at age 23 like Gallo. He didnt get going until he went to Orlando at age 25, and even then he was only a 14/4/3 player for 3 years until he exploded for 20/6/5 at age 28 in 07-08. He quickly came back down to earth after that season though. Gallo is without a doubt a better all around player than Hedo was.

I know you dont like Gallo but get real.


i was about to go pull the stats, but you beat me to it.. thanks...


Hedo was on a contending team and didn't have as large a role, so it's hard to compare. But we do know that Turk didn't start putting up significant numbers until he was in a situation with the Magic that was basically ideal for his skillset/talents.
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Post#435 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:05 am

TrueWarrior wrote:I think people need to accept the trade is going to get talked about, and to not to get so butthurt and take it so personal when it does. It doesnt mean people arent over the trade. It happened. Everyone knows we cant go back in time, but the Melo trade completely changed the future for this franchise, for better or worse is yet to be determined.


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Post#436 » by TrueWarrior » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:05 am

JohnStarksTheDunk wrote:Hedo was on a contending team and didn't have as large a role, so it's hard to compare. But we do know that Turk didn't start putting up significant numbers until he was in a situation with the Magic that was basically ideal for his skillset/talents.


It doesnt matter though because once Turk did get playing time in Orlando he was putting up worse stats than Gallo is now when he was 2 years older.
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Post#437 » by Jay10 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:06 am

stephon referring to d'antoni:

- "he doesn't have a system. Just play is his system. 5 years of hood winking"
- "They need one more basketball and a new coach ... Melo is not a DPHONY type of guy."

stephon referring to the media trying to bait amar'e and carmelo into saying something negative about one another:

- "all melo has to do is play and say nothing other then what happened in the game. They want him and stat to get into it."
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Post#438 » by nyczlegacy » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:06 am

I missed this game but looking at the box score. God, I want to cry right now.
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Post#440 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:07 am

GONYK wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Tell me how you feel after we lose 10 in a row.

With or without Baron?


That's the prospect for pre-Baron right now

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