Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4

dTox · Post #661 » by **dTox** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:11 pm

I've said it once before, and I'll say it again: If you draft Anthony Davis , you trade any other player hindering his playingtime/ growth and run.

Post #662 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:12 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:
FluLikeSymptoms wrote:Baylor plays at 8pm, Kentucky at 9. Let's see if Quincy backs up his performance, loved what he was doing from the high post last game. Would like to see Davis make a nice offensive move tonight.

Do you know if the games are going to be televised in Canada?

They're on the Rogers sports pack. Kentucky vs. Georgia in HD but Baylor vs. Oklahoma no.

SkywalkerAC · Post #663 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:40 am

I don't think that drafting Davis necessitates trading AB. You need roughly 5 or 6 bigs on your team. Bargnani is a scorer/shooter, a veteran, and a big body. You might look to trade him if you get a great offer but given that we'll be trying to win next year and have money to fill the other spots, I certainly wouldn't expect or want Andrea to be traded.

CunningLinguist · Post #664 » by **CunningLinguist** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:52 am

[quote="Mediocrity]
You believe Drummond has a floor of Jordan? That is a pretty high floor, considering Jordan is only 22 and is averaging 8 and 8 with 3 blocks. Taking my homer glasses of momentarily, Drummond reminds me of Cousins, and that is not someone that I want. Sure, he puts up 14 and 11 in 28 minutes, but on 41% FG and doesn't seem to really effect the game in any way, other than some boneheaded plays.[/quote]

Did you ever see Deandre Jordan play in college? He was absolutely atrocious. As inconsistent as Drummond's been, he's shown much more skill than Jordan ever did. Forget about the stats and compare the skillset.

Rapsfan07 · Post #665 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:07 am

Quincy Miller the 3!!

Post #666 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:10 am

Is Pierre Jackson drunk? He's passed to more fans than forwards.

PJ3 playing in the post, scoring twice.

Then he jacks the three, halfway down. But a good shot, in rhythm. Like it after the post ups.

Post #667 » by **Undefeated** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:13 am

lmao what a careless pass by Pierre Jackson throwing it into the stand. Perry Jones III looking aggressive going into the block...

7-Day Dray · Post #668 » by **7-Day Dray** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:28 am

No way Quincy Miller is going to be a great scorer in the future if he doesn't improve his handle. He dribbles the ball too far in front of his body, and his dribble is way to high. The ball goes above his waist basically every time.

Rapsfan07 · Post #669 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:29 am

PJ3 looking great on the block and a nice shake and bake by Miller!

Rapsfan07 · Post #670 » by **Rapsfan07** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:34 am

Nice assist by Miller.

Post #671 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:50 am

Miller's awareness, aggression and feel appear to be very good, ahead of Perry's. He looks like a different player than he did a few weeks ago, I think he might be better than Jones now.

PJ3 looks like Bosh in that he's a bit hesitant and deliberate but Quincy looks instinctive and opportunistic.

fredericklove · Post #672 » by **fredericklove** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:53 am

Won't be watching baylor or kentucky game@9 cos of raptors, much appreciated if someone recaps D23 and MKGs performance tonight.

Xixak · Post #673 » by **Xixak** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:58 am

If Barnes is on the board and we don't take him I will throw up.

Post #674 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:59 am

fredericklove wrote:Won't be watching baylor or kentucky game@9 cos of raptors, much appreciated if someone recaps D23 and MKGs performance tonight.

Watching Kentucky is watching the Raps.

I like that college games start on time-ish, can catch a good chunk before the Raps actually play. And there will be many hideous, look away moments for Toronto tonight as always.

MKG with a huge baseline two-hander off a Wiltjer feed. Wiltjer looking good. Two threes.

The number 1/2 team will have to get a hat for Davis at Baby Gap and iron-on a logo for the draft.

Davis is great in the air, though he can't fly. Great composure. Did he play volleyball?

Davis with at least three blocks in every game but one this year, in which he had 2.

MKG and Davis out-rebounding Georgia 18-13, 5-3 on the offensive end.

AD block #4.

Saciid11 · Post #675 » by **Saciid11** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:57 am

SkywalkerAC wrote:I don't think that drafting Davis necessitates trading AB. You need roughly 5 or 6 bigs on your team. Bargnani is a scorer/shooter, a veteran, and a big body. You might look to trade him if you get a great offer but given that we'll be trying to win next year and have money to fill the other spots, I certainly wouldn't expect or want Andrea to be traded.

If we end up with Anthony Davis, we better trade Bargnani for star wing or borderline all star wing who can create his own shot... somebody we should have done while Bosh was here.

Walid · Post #676 » by **Walid** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:04 am

Saciid11 wrote:
SkywalkerAC wrote:I don't think that drafting Davis necessitates trading AB. You need roughly 5 or 6 bigs on your team. Bargnani is a scorer/shooter, a veteran, and a big body. You might look to trade him if you get a great offer but given that we'll be trying to win next year and have money to fill the other spots, I certainly wouldn't expect or want Andrea to be traded.

If we end up with Anthony Davis, we better trade Bargnani for star wing or borderline all star wing who can create his own shot... somebody we should have done while Bosh was here.

AD is not a better fit with Val than Bargnani is with him. We need offense inside and out, as well as versatility. AD is RAW on offense.

Saciid11 · Post #677 » by **Saciid11** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:10 am

Walid wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:
SkywalkerAC wrote:I don't think that drafting Davis necessitates trading AB. You need roughly 5 or 6 bigs on your team. Bargnani is a scorer/shooter, a veteran, and a big body. You might look to trade him if you get a great offer but given that we'll be trying to win next year and have money to fill the other spots, I certainly wouldn't expect or want Andrea to be traded.

If we end up with Anthony Davis, we better trade Bargnani for star wing or borderline all star wing who can create his own shot... somebody we should have done while Bosh was here.

AD is not a better fit with Val than Bargnani is with him. We need offense inside and out, as well as versatility. AD is RAW on offense.

Who cares about who is better fit with Val, you take the best prospect and the one who can be franchise player.. and that is Anthony Davis. Val, Bargnani, and everyone else should be just pieces to be traded or built around Anthony Davis who is going to be two way player like KG, Dwight Howard, etc... Prospects like Anthony Davis don't come around every year and when you get a chance drafting one you take it and never look back.

Saciid11 · Post #678 » by **Saciid11** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:15 am

Walid wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:
SkywalkerAC wrote:I don't think that drafting Davis necessitates trading AB. You need roughly 5 or 6 bigs on your team. Bargnani is a scorer/shooter, a veteran, and a big body. You might look to trade him if you get a great offer but given that we'll be trying to win next year and have money to fill the other spots, I certainly wouldn't expect or want Andrea to be traded.

If we end up with Anthony Davis, we better trade Bargnani for star wing or borderline all star wing who can create his own shot... somebody we should have done while Bosh was here.

AD is not a better fit with Val than Bargnani is with him. We need offense inside and out, as well as versatility. AD is RAW on offense.

Raw on offense?? Dwight Howard was raw on offense, KG was once raw on offense, Bynum was raw on offense... Offense is the easiest thing players can improve, but on defensive end players rarely improve... besides Anthony Davis hasn't even been used offensively at UK...

dTox · Post #679 » by **dTox** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:17 am

Walid wrote:
Saciid11 wrote:
SkywalkerAC wrote:I don't think that drafting Davis necessitates trading AB. You need roughly 5 or 6 bigs on your team. Bargnani is a scorer/shooter, a veteran, and a big body. You might look to trade him if you get a great offer but given that we'll be trying to win next year and have money to fill the other spots, I certainly wouldn't expect or want Andrea to be traded.

If we end up with Anthony Davis, we better trade Bargnani for star wing or borderline all star wing who can create his own shot... somebody we should have done while Bosh was here.

AD is not a better fit with Val than Bargnani is with him. We need offense inside and out, as well as versatility. AD is RAW on offense.

AD is the one you build around, and whoever fits best with him you keep

Post #680 » by **Undefeated** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:36 am

Saciid11 wrote:Raw on offense?? Dwight Howard was raw on offense, KG was once raw on offense, Bynum was raw on offense... Offense is the easiest thing players can improve, but on defensive end players rarely improve... besides Anthony Davis hasn't even been used offensively at UK...

Where Anthony Davis seems to be raw offensively is the lack of a back-to-the-basket game, but I'd give him the benefit of the doubt because he hasn't had the time to get his feet wet under this new frame nor has he had ample opportunities to go iso one-on-one in the post. On most nights, he's the 4th/5th offensive scoring option at UK, so we might not see what Davis has in store. I've seen some glimpses of a face-up game and a good looking mid-range stroke, so he's not that raw. Comparing him to Andre Drummond though, he's really behind offensively.

Who do you want the Raptors to draft in the 2012 NBA Draft?