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Post#361 » by blumatic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:58 am

OMG you guys are delusional if its his fault we lost this game. Its pathetic. He did lose it on 3 plays but u guys act like he got beat all game. Wow. Oh yea 12 rebounds. It pathetic this board. This Trade Stat movement is awful showing.
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Post#362 » by Sky_Knicks » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:01 am

blumatic wrote:OMG you guys are delusional if its his fault we lost this game. Its pathetic. He did lose it on 3 plays but u guys act like he got beat all game. Wow. Oh yea 12 rebounds. It pathetic this board. This Trade Stat movement is awful showing.

This must be the only game you've seen this year.....and you must have only seen 3 minutes of it......and you must be related to Amare...
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Post#363 » by Stannis » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:10 am

"Scrub of the Night", only happens when Amar'e plays.
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Post#364 » by blumatic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:14 am

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blumatic wrote:OMG you guys are delusional if its his fault we lost this game. Its pathetic. He did lose it on 3 plays but u guys act like he got beat all game. Wow. Oh yea 12 rebounds. It pathetic this board. This Trade Stat movement is awful showing.

This must be the only game you've seen this year.....and you must have only seen 3 minutes of it......and you must be related to Amare...



FAIL by you sir.

When you have a weakness in ur game you have to be good at other things. Tonight he had 12 rebounds

Maybe it would be nice if Tyson can hit a Jumper. But he gets no heat for that.

Maybe if Tyson can hit free throws. But he gets no heat.

Maybe if Novak can handle the ball. But no one trashes Novak.

I think its pathetic that we lose this game Ya'll wanna burn his house down.

But like you and many others you guy wait for any mishap by Amare so you can bust a load.

I dont know what level of defense you looking for. He's not a playmaker on defense like Jeffires and Tyson. But those 2 guys need to be because they are inept offensively. So u wanna blame STAT for defense. Blame Tyson for his offense with his big contract.
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Post#365 » by Sky_Knicks » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:22 am

blumatic wrote:
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blumatic wrote:OMG you guys are delusional if its his fault we lost this game. Its pathetic. He did lose it on 3 plays but u guys act like he got beat all game. Wow. Oh yea 12 rebounds. It pathetic this board. This Trade Stat movement is awful showing.

This must be the only game you've seen this year.....and you must have only seen 3 minutes of it......and you must be related to Amare...



FAIL by you sir.

When you have a weakness in ur game you have to be good at other things. Tonight he had 12 rebounds

Maybe it would be nice if Tyson can hit a Jumper. But he gets no heat for that.

Maybe if Tyson can hit free throws. But he gets no heat.

Maybe if Novak can handle the ball. But no one trashes Novak.

I think its pathetic that we lose this game Ya'll wanna burn his house down.

But like you and many others you guy wait for any mishap by Amare so you can bust a load.

I dont know what level of defense you looking for. He's not a playmaker on defense like Jeffires and Tyson. But those 2 guys need to be because they are inept offensively. So u wanna blame STAT for defense. Blame Tyson for his offense with his big contract.

Tyson has not been known for offense his entire career. Yet he has done nicely for us offensively this year. Jefferies has looked better offensively with the addition of Lin. Novak has been lights out for us. He had a bad shooting night tonight.

Amare on the other hand.... has been AWFUL on defense both last year and this year. All season long. And his bad defense causes Chandler to get cheap fouls, gets us into the penalty faster, and lets teams go on runs.

Sorry if you like him, I do too. Seems like a nice guy. But we aren't winning anything with him. And his loss of athleticism and explosiveness only compounds his ineptitude defensively. .8 blocks ?? Really ?? We HAVE TO look to trade Amare or we're basically wasting time.
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Post#366 » by knicksosmoove » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:51 am

this guy is a net negative. it was all cool last year because we needed him to score, and he did. we don't need him to score anymore though. we have plenty of guys who can do that. jeffries fully deserves his minutes. i just don't know what to do anymore. coach should definitely bench him.
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Post#367 » by nykfan757 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:26 am

knicksosmoove wrote:this guy is a net negative. it was all cool last year because we needed him to score, and he did. we don't need him to score anymore though. we have plenty of guys who can do that. jeffries fully deserves his minutes. i just don't know what to do anymore. coach should definitely bench him.



Patience maybe :dontknow:

Knicks fans act like titles are won and lost with a winning or losing streak. Get a grip man. Seriously.

You gotta wonder where this team would be without Amare...real talk. They were peaking at 29 wins...he had em at 23 by the ASG and that was in the midst of a losing streak. His defense is very suspect at times...but the truth is...it isnt absolutely terrible...he actually plays better on the ball. Its when he's off the ball that his lack of awareness shows. Which, having played in one system that did not stress defense his entire career, you cant really blame him. He was top 5-10 in bpg last season before the trade. It is very obvious the lack of offensive flow has slowed a lot of our team down so far this season...Amare happening to be one of them.

What IS funny...is that Carmelo's defense is 10 times worse...yet I do not see a thread about how he "must go" anywhere on here. Hmmmmmmmmmm....
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Post#368 » by Orange Mamba » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:14 pm

knicksosmoove wrote:this guy is a net negative. it was all cool last year because we needed him to score, and he did. we don't need him to score anymore though. we have plenty of guys who can do that. jeffries fully deserves his minutes. i just don't know what to do anymore. coach should definitely bench him.


It sucks to admit because STAT was the one who came here first and embraced the challenge, etc, but I agree completely. Seems like he's here to stay for now though
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Post#369 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:21 pm

nykfan757 wrote:
What IS funny...is that Carmelo's defense is 10 times worse...yet I do not see a thread about how he "must go" anywhere on here. Hmmmmmmmmmm....


Lol

Melo gets criticized no matter what he does.

So much hia college coach had to come out and defend him

Melo has been called a cancer and loser by quite a few.

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Post#370 » by Orange Mamba » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:24 pm

nykfan757 wrote:What IS funny...is that Carmelo's defense is 10 times worse...yet I do not see a thread about how he "must go" anywhere on here. Hmmmmmmmmmm....


Not true.
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Post#371 » by CANiLIVE » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:39 pm

Lol I wonder if guys hear watch games, saying amare plays better d then melo is just dumb, when melo is trying he's a great defender, amare is a big, we need him to lockdown the paint enforce the no layup rule , but he just can't do that.
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Post#372 » by Thugger HBC » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:50 pm

UPTOWNROBB91 wrote:Lol I wonder if guys hear watch games, saying amare plays better d then melo is just dumb, when melo is trying he's a great defender, amare is a big, we need him to lockdown the paint enforce the no layup rule , but he just can't do that.

I wouldn't call Melo's defense great when he plays it, but he can be a good one.

When Amare tries, he picks up fouls, which is a clear sign of not knowing how.

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Post#373 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:48 pm

nykfan757 wrote:Knicks fans act like titles are won and lost with a winning or losing streak. Get a grip man. Seriously.

No, the fans who want Amare moved know titles are won with defense. Something Amare isn't able to do.
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Post#374 » by Nutty Nats Fan » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:49 pm

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knicksosmoove wrote:this guy is a net negative. it was all cool last year because we needed him to score, and he did. we don't need him to score anymore though. we have plenty of guys who can do that. jeffries fully deserves his minutes. i just don't know what to do anymore. coach should definitely bench him.


It sucks to admit because STAT was the one who came here first and embraced the challenge, etc, but I agree completely. Seems like he's here to stay for now though

He only came to NY for the money. The rest of the story was written by the media.
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Post#375 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:56 pm

I seriously do not see any basis for saying melo is worse than amare on defense. And ten ten times worse??? What game are you watching?
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Post#376 » by GetItDone » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:09 pm

BKrab3 wrote:
knicksosmoove wrote:this guy is a net negative. it was all cool last year because we needed him to score, and he did. we don't need him to score anymore though. we have plenty of guys who can do that. jeffries fully deserves his minutes. i just don't know what to do anymore. coach should definitely bench him.


It sucks to admit because STAT was the one who came here first and embraced the challenge, etc, but I agree completely. Seems like he's here to stay for now though

Sick of hearing this.

Amare came here for the money. He even openly admitted he would have returned to Phoenix if the offered him they 5th year guaranteed. This fan base acts like Amare is freakin' Derek Jeter.
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Post#377 » by duetta » Sun Feb 19, 2012 4:10 pm

All things being equal, if I am forced to choose between a player who is likely to remain structurally healthy throughout the remainder of his contact, and was acquired at an astronomical cost, and one who is much more likely to break down, and whom I gave up nothing for by way of talent (aside from all the significant assets I surrendered in order to get two full max slots under the cap in the first place), I must rationally side with the player who is that much more likely to remain healthy.

The question is, what can you feasibly bring back in exchange for Amare - while he is still plausibly healthy, and plausibly marketable?
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Post#378 » by Retired_Doc » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:04 pm

duetta wrote:All things being equal, if I am forced to choose between a player who is likely to remain structurally healthy throughout the remainder of his contact, and was acquired at an astronomical cost, and one who is much more likely to break down, and whom I gave up nothing for by way of talent (aside from all the significant assets I surrendered in order to get two full max slots under the cap in the first place), I must rationally side with the player who is that much more likely to remain healthy.

The question is, what can you feasibly bring back in exchange for Amare - while he is still plausibly healthy, and plausibly marketable?


I seriously doubt we will get anything of value back for Amare. The man is clearly breaking down and has an UNINSURED contract! He is almost flat-out un-tradeable!
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Post#379 » by lataflava00 » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:07 pm

he'll be fine. typical overreaction threads. it's funny how we never see these types of threads created or bumped when we win.
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Post#380 » by dreamer3kx » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:11 pm

Didnt Stat just have 26 and 12, he never played good D.

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