Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII, Mods Close)

arkknight1988 · Post #941 » by **arkknight1988** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:47 pm

once we realize we can't land a significant player whats the plan? ellis & nash arent getting traded imo. If we keep this same roster after the deadline without a commitment from dwight it's going to be another 1st round exit.

arkknight1988 · Post #942 » by **arkknight1988** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:48 pm

jernigan wrote:Take it for what it's worth, but I heard an UNCONFIRMED rumor that this is the deal the Magic are trying to get done.

Magic out:
J-Rich
Glen Davis
1st round pick

In exchange for:

Monta Ellis
Andres Biedrins

This seems way to good to be true, but thought I'd share to give some food for thought. If it actually happpens and we get to keep Ryno...

WAY too good to be true therefore it is. salaries don't even match up

jernigan · Post #943 » by **jernigan** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:49 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:once we realize we can't land a significant player whats the plan? ellis & nash arent getting traded imo. If we keep this same roster after the deadline without a commitment from dwight it's going to be another 1st round exit.

Keeping this team together as constituted isn't even on the table IMO. Make a trade or two to keep Dwight, or face the tough decision to trade him before the deadline.

arkknight1988 · Post #944 » by **arkknight1988** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:50 pm

jernigan wrote:
arkknight1988 wrote:once we realize we can't land a significant player whats the plan? ellis & nash arent getting traded imo. If we keep this same roster after the deadline without a commitment from dwight it's going to be another 1st round exit.

Keeping this team together as constituted isn't even on the table IMO. Make a trade or two to keep Dwight, or face the tough decision to trade him before the deadline.

i hope not. that would be suicide

InFlames · Post #945 » by **InFlames** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:51 pm

jernigan wrote:Take it for what it's worth, but I heard an UNCONFIRMED rumor that this is the deal the Magic are trying to get done.

Magic out:
J-Rich
Glen Davis
1st round pick

In exchange for:

Monta Ellis
Andres Biedrins

This seems way to good to be true, but thought I'd share to give some food for thought. If it actually happpens and we get to keep Ryno...

That would be flat out robbery and the salaries don't match up.

Nolimit1211 · Post #946 » by **Nolimit1211** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:53 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:once we realize we can't land a significant player whats the plan? ellis & nash arent getting traded imo. If we keep this same roster after the deadline without a commitment from dwight it's going to be another 1st round exit.

Otis makes a panic trade ala PHX last year..... Ariza For Redick & Clark anyone?

jernigan · Post #947 » by **jernigan** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 2:53 pm

InFlames wrote:
jernigan wrote:Take it for what it's worth, but I heard an UNCONFIRMED rumor that this is the deal the Magic are trying to get done.

Magic out:
J-Rich
Glen Davis
1st round pick

In exchange for:

Monta Ellis
Andres Biedrins

This seems way to good to be true, but thought I'd share to give some food for thought. If it actually happpens and we get to keep Ryno...

That would be flat out robbery and the salaries don't match up.

It's possible that this is the basic framework of a deal with more needed to make the numbers work.

the-diesel · Post #948 » by **the-diesel** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:01 pm

^I disagree, no way we snub GS that hard.

OrlandoMagic · Post #949 » by **OrlandoMagic** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:06 pm

If that rumors is true, it's hard to believe we get another player on this team who shoots free throws worse than Dwight. But other than that, I actually like what Biedrins could bring to this team.

vinageras · Post #950 » by **vinageras** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:10 pm

Biedrins is actually a good player, and he would be playing around 12 minutes a game! I like that deal a lot!!

InFlames · Post #951 » by **InFlames** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:11 pm

vinageras wrote:Biedrins is actually a good player, and he would be playing around 12 minutes a game! I like that deal a lot!!

Biedrins kinda sucks now, but he would be fine as a backup I think.

CP3toORL · Post #952 » by **CP3toORL** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:13 pm

Awesome trade...Throw in Nelson!

vinageras · Post #953 » by **vinageras** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:16 pm

We need to convince LA to help us with that huge trade exception...

Nyce_1 · Post #954 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:16 pm

I like getting Ellis but not while we still have Jameer here. We all know SVG will continue to start Jameer along side Ellis, if he has him. Otis needs to trade Jameer to force a different lineup & rotation on SVG.

But then again, if true, this puts us in a great position for the summer of 2013. GREAT POSITION if Ellis & Biendrins opt out of their contracts.

But I don't believe it.

KingRobb02 · Post #955 » by **KingRobb02** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:16 pm

InFlames wrote:
vinageras wrote:Biedrins is actually a good player, and he would be playing around 12 minutes a game! I like that deal a lot!!

Biedrins kinda sucks now, but he would be fine as a backup I think.

Biedrins really sucks now, and if we were willing to pay that much for a backup C we would have just kept Gortat.

InFlames · Post #956 » by **InFlames** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:18 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
InFlames wrote:
vinageras wrote:Biedrins is actually a good player, and he would be playing around 12 minutes a game! I like that deal a lot!!

Biedrins kinda sucks now, but he would be fine as a backup I think.

Biedrins really sucks now, and if we were willing to pay that much for a backup C we would have just kept Gortat.

Biedrins isn't the point of the trade, Ellis is. In order to get Ellis we will have to take back Biedrins.

Idunkonyou2 · Post #957 » by **Idunkonyou2** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:18 pm

If the Magic get that deal done for Ellis, that would be amazing. I'm sure the Magic are trying to get another team involved to give the Warriors more though. The 1st rounder would probably go to the 3rd team.

vinageras · Post #958 » by **vinageras** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:19 pm

InFlames wrote:
vinageras wrote:Biedrins is actually a good player, and he would be playing around 12 minutes a game! I like that deal a lot!!

Biedrins kinda sucks now, but he would be fine as a backup I think.

He's getting 17 minutes a game, and posting 1.1 blocks, 4.4 rebounds, 2.2 points (shooting 61%). He will rebound, play defense and won't take Big-Baby-stupid shots. He will be a great backup.

vinageras · Post #959 » by **vinageras** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:21 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:If the Magic get that deal done for Ellis, that would be amazing. I'm sure the Magic are trying to get another team involved to give the Warriors more though. The 1st rounder would probably go to the 3rd team.

If that is true, then we should send that 1st rounder to Minnesota and get the Warriors Beasley to entice the offer

Nolimit1211 · Post #960 » by **Nolimit1211** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 3:22 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:If the Magic get that deal done for Ellis, that would be amazing.