Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV, Mods Close))

sChOlaRlY_Magi · Post #321 » by **sChOlaRlY_Magi** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:09 am

DJRajX wrote:I'm about to rename this to the "Official S*** Won't Happen, Thanks Otis" Thread.

+1
Ughh

FlopCity · Post #322 » by **FlopCity** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:10 am

MagicTime1 wrote:Hey guys, this is my first post. I hope you guys think I have a good trade idea, what if this 4 team trade went down.

Orlando Trades: Jameer Nelson, Ryan Anderson, J-Rich, JJ Redick
Orlando Receives: Monta Ellis, David Lee, Brandon Rush

Golden State Trades: David Lee, Monta Ellis
Golden State Receives: J-Rich, Chris Kaman, Ryan Anderon, Micheal Beasley

N.O Trades: Chris Kaman
N.O Receives: Jameer Nelson, JJ Redick

Minnesota Trades: Micheal Beasley
Minnesota Recieves: Kwame Brown ( Expiring Contract )

Throw some picks around, and this can work out for all teams involved. and I dont see any reason that the Warriors decline a trade like this

Trash. Golden State would laugh if they received this offer. You expect them to trade a star guard and a forward who is a 20/10 guy for role players?

ElXavier407 · Post #323 » by **ElXavier407** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:11 am

How about the Magic go after Beasley? Kind of a head case but dude is a real talent..I think he can flourish under Stan's coaching..He can create his own **** better then anyone on The Magic's current roster.

The Real Dalic · Post #324 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:11 am

MagicTime1 wrote:Hey guys, this is my first post. I hope you guys think I have a good trade idea, what if this 4 team trade went down.

Orlando Trades: Jameer Nelson, Ryan Anderson, J-Rich, JJ Redick
Orlando Receives: Monta Ellis, David Lee, Brandon Rush

Golden State Trades: David Lee, Monta Ellis
Golden State Receives: J-Rich, Chris Kaman, Ryan Anderon, Micheal Beasley

N.O Trades: Chris Kaman
N.O Receives: Jameer Nelson, JJ Redick

Minnesota Trades: Micheal Beasley
Minnesota Recieves: Kwame Brown ( Expiring Contract )

Throw some picks around, and this can work out for all teams involved. and I dont see any reason that the Warriors decline a trade like this

Welcome to RealGM! it's not a bad trade, but, the Warriors want Michael Jordan in any trade they do, so, I don't know if they'd do it.

ElXavier407 · Post #325 » by **ElXavier407** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:11 am

Orlando Prodigy · Post #326 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:12 am

OrlandO wrote:
Orlando Prodigy wrote:Also...keep hoping that Golden State loses. Right now they're evaluating things with Curry out. They still believe they can make the playoffs so when Curry comes back, a trade will likely go down with that team. Will the Magic be involved? Time will tell. I'm remaining optimistic. If no trades happen we will be disappointed either way so might as well be optimistic til the time comes. No matter what I'll be Team Magic. And I think Dwight stays. The ball is in Otis' hand. If there are any specific questions you guys want me to ask, I'll be sure to do so. Like I said don't expect breaking news but clarifications of things are likely.

Ellis is having a bad game tonight and warriors are losing to the raptors... crossing my fingers.

Yup. Losing says a lot (remember the Magic's terrible stretch where we all wanted to blow up the team?). If the Warriors continue to lose, the Warriors GM is basically forced to make a deadline trade. Monta is an expiring contract next year so his value will go down. Trading him this year makes a lot more sense. Curry/Nelson at point, Klay/J-Rich (or JJ) at SG, Nate Robinson is also there but I'm not too big on him personally. Plus getting an improving Ryan Anderson if Lee goes and Bogut/Kaman under the basket? It honestly doesn't sound so bad for Warriors fans. Some Warriors fans may say different though.

SEBAS-07 · Post #327 » by **SEBAS-07** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:14 am

Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Orlando Prodigy · Post #328 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:16 am

SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Monta > Nelson at point guard.
JJ/Wafer might be > J-Rich/JJ.
Getting Lee might be > Anderson come playoff time.

MagicJunkie2 · Post #329 » by **MagicJunkie2** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:17 am

Robinson just blew the gm for them with 3 bonehead plays. Nelson J.Rich and Ryan are way more consistent then anyone on GS

Orlando Prodigy · Post #330 » by **Orlando Prodigy** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:18 am

Also Jackson/Ilyasova > Davis, Duhon, Q-Rich. Would the Bucks do it? Who knows. But I think Ilyasova would be great in Stan's system and would provide the three point shooting we'd be losing with Ryan.

The Real Dalic · Post #331 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:18 am

Orlando Prodigy wrote:
SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Monta > Nelson at point guard.
JJ/Wafer might be > J-Rich/JJ.
Getting Lee might be > Anderson come playoff time.

This.

NW · Post #332 » by NW » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:19 am

Orlando Prodigy wrote:
OrlandO wrote:
Orlando Prodigy wrote:Also...keep hoping that Golden State loses. Right now they're evaluating things with Curry out. They still believe they can make the playoffs so when Curry comes back, a trade will likely go down with that team. Will the Magic be involved? Time will tell. I'm remaining optimistic. If no trades happen we will be disappointed either way so might as well be optimistic til the time comes. No matter what I'll be Team Magic. And I think Dwight stays. The ball is in Otis' hand. If there are any specific questions you guys want me to ask, I'll be sure to do so. Like I said don't expect breaking news but clarifications of things are likely.

Ellis is having a bad game tonight and warriors are losing to the raptors... crossing my fingers.

Yup. Losing says a lot (remember the Magic's terrible stretch where we all wanted to blow up the team?). If the Warriors continue to lose, the Warriors GM is basically forced to make a deadline trade. Monta is an expiring contract next year so his value will go down. Trading him this year makes a lot more sense. Curry/Nelson at point, Klay/J-Rich (or JJ) at SG, Nate Robinson is also there but I'm not too big on him personally. Plus getting an improving Ryan Anderson if Lee goes and Bogut/Kaman under the basket? It honestly doesn't sound so bad for Warriors fans. Some Warriors fans may say different though.

I'd be one of them. What I don't think Magic fans understand is the Warriors like Ellis and don't want to deal him unless it leads to a major upgrade at the Five (the team's biggest hole). Kaman isn't it and he's a FA anyway. The Warriors don't need bench help - outside of a better PG than Nate Robinson (as Curry's time out has made it clear how bad this team needs a decent PG). If you could get Bogut, that may do it.

ADRajX · Post #333 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:19 am

lol at GS thinking Ellis is worth Howard.

The Real Dalic · Post #334 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:19 am

MagicJunkie2 wrote:Robinson just blew the gm for them with 3 bonehead plays. Nelson J.Rich and Ryan are way more consistent then anyone on GS

Ryan yeah, but not Nelson or J-Rich, they are terribly inconsistent. it's their biggest flaw IMO.

ADRajX · Post #335 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:20 am

The Real Dalic wrote:
Orlando Prodigy wrote:
SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Monta > Nelson at point guard.
JJ/Wafer might be > J-Rich/JJ.
Getting Lee might be > Anderson come playoff time.

This.

The Real Dalic · Post #336 » by **The Real Dalic** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:20 am

DJRajX wrote:lol at GS thinking Ellis is worth Howard.

OMPunk · Post #337 » by **OMPunk** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:20 am

SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Almost have to at this point. Its really the only real chance the Magic have at keeping Dwight. Bringing in Monta and SJax would be a very good get for the team. I don't believe Jax has completely fallen off, I think Skiles is a hard ass and doesn't like him so he's not going to play him. I think he'll be a great teammate here and a lineup of Monta/JJ/Jax/Baby/Dwight wouldn't be any worse then what the team currently has. This also atleast gives the Magic a shot at keeping Dwight, which is the ultimate goal.

JarethCutestory · Post #338 » by **JarethCutestory** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:20 am

We're desperate if we want Blatche.

OrlandO · Post #339 » by **OrlandO** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:20 am

SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.

Then I'm glad you're not Otis. :-D

Can't concentrate so much on what we're giving up. Monta + Dwight would be a great pairing, and it could help excite Dwight bout a future with the Magic. You have to give to get.

ADRajX · Post #340 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Mar 5, 2012 1:21 am

JarethCutestory wrote:We're desperate if we want Blatche.

Well if they are getting rid of him for dirt cheap (like a draft pick), why not?