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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#421 » by ADRajX » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:43 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:Lopez left the arena on crutches, some saying it's worse than Avery says. Way worse.

Nets are cursed.

that will shut up Nets fans for a bit
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#422 » by arkknight1988 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:44 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:Lopez left the arena on crutches, some saying it's worse than Avery says. Way worse.

Nets are cursed.

they shouldn't of rushed him back. nets trade is off the books now IMO.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#423 » by ADRajX » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:46 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:Lopez left the arena on crutches, some saying it's worse than Avery says. Way worse.

Nets are cursed.

they shouldn't of rushed him back. nets trade is off the books now IMO.

I feel bad saying this... but serves them right.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#424 » by rcklsscognition » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:47 am

If reports are correct and Lopez is done for the season, the Nets deal is off. Plain and simple. You can't trade Dwight for a guy who injured his foot twice in one season and is currently on the shelf. Are we going to run Okur and humphries in the playoffs?
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Post#425 » by ChildishGambino » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:48 am

man what kind of situation are we in where empathy plays a factor lol.....man we're boned aren't we? Otis really screwed us....it's going to take a lot of factors going our way for us to land Ellis and if we don't land Ellis i seriously DOUBT we make any moves....It's either land Ellis and if we can't we stay with the same ole same....As it stands now we're just not good enough to beat Miami or Chicago in a series....Hell i'm not even confident that we could beat Philly or Indiana....you can throw Boston and Atlanta in there as well.....Bottom line...With this Roster the ONLY way we'll make any kind of noise is if we hit a hot streak at the right time....i mean in the playoffs we would need to be hitting record highs in 3's to have a chance lol
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Post#427 » by rcklsscognition » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:50 am

ChildishGambino wrote:man what kind of situation are we in where empathy plays a factor lol.....man we're boned aren't we? Otis really screwed us....it's going to take a lot of factors going our way for us to land Ellis and if we don't land Ellis i seriously DOUBT we make any moves....It's either land Ellis and if we can't we stay with the same ole same....As it stands now we're just not good enough to beat Miami or Chicago in a series....Hell i'm not even confident that we could beat Philly or Indiana....you can throw Boston and Atlanta in there as well.....Bottom line...With this Roster the ONLY way we'll make any kind of noise is if we hit a hot streak at the right time....i mean in the playoffs we would need to be hitting record highs in 3's to have a chance lol


For all the Ellis talk, there is more talk of Nash to Orlando. More opinions from actual reporters and analysts about Nash to Orlando. If a "blockbuster" was going down, I think Nash is the one. More than likely we don't even get Nash though.
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Post#428 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:54 am

thelead wrote:Makes sense for everyone:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=6lkyrpu


Not bad. Don't think Hornets would take Redick when they want Gordon long term.

I doubt Bogut alone would do it for Ellis either.
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Post#429 » by MagicFan32 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:58 am

Orlando has to have two scenarios

A trade that Makes d12 happy.
and trades for Howard.

The Magic need to have every trade proposal for Howard mapped out, they are stupid if they are not listening.

If you CANNOT make the moves to appease him, he has to be traded so you can PURGE the roster of bad contracts, like Hedo, Qrich and Duhon

IMO Sjax will be a Magic and have thought that for a few weeks.

The Magic need to eye lower tier players as well, like Ramon Sessions, he'd be a MUCH better backup than Duhon, so when nelson struggles we have a good player to take over, plus Nelson can only play 30 minutes.

You also need to get a backup center, we need to get more athletic as well
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Post#430 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 2:59 am

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Post#431 » by ChildishGambino » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:00 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:man what kind of situation are we in where empathy plays a factor lol.....man we're boned aren't we? Otis really screwed us....it's going to take a lot of factors going our way for us to land Ellis and if we don't land Ellis i seriously DOUBT we make any moves....It's either land Ellis and if we can't we stay with the same ole same....As it stands now we're just not good enough to beat Miami or Chicago in a series....Hell i'm not even confident that we could beat Philly or Indiana....you can throw Boston and Atlanta in there as well.....Bottom line...With this Roster the ONLY way we'll make any kind of noise is if we hit a hot streak at the right time....i mean in the playoffs we would need to be hitting record highs in 3's to have a chance lol


For all the Ellis talk, there is more talk of Nash to Orlando. More opinions from actual reporters and analysts about Nash to Orlando. If a "blockbuster" was going down, I think Nash is the one. More than likely we don't even get Nash though.

maybe....from the statements i've read from both the suns and Nash himself...they're more or less playing some passive game of chicken....seeing who'll blink first....Nash isn't demanding a trade but is open to it if the Suns want to.....Suns don't want to trade Nash unless he demands a trade...Chicken or the Egg? which comes first?
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Post#432 » by PeePee la Fritz » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:01 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
thelead wrote:Makes sense for everyone:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=6lkyrpu


Not bad. Don't think Hornets would take Redick when they want Gordon long term.

I doubt Bogut alone would do it for Ellis either.



Gordon is going to Indiana in the summer.
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Post#433 » by Def Swami » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:01 am

Otis should definitely help get Kaman in GS.
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Post#434 » by Def Swami » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:03 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:Otis should definitely help get Kaman in GS.


Jameer must have some value to NO.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIV: Trade Deadline cont 

Post#435 » by MagicFan32 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:04 am

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SEBAS-07 wrote:Sorry but I`m not trading Nelson, Jason Richardson and Ryan Anderson for Monta Ellis.


Monta > Nelson at point guard.
JJ/Wafer might be > J-Rich/JJ.
Getting Lee might be > Anderson come playoff time.
Monta is not a PG, he's a scorer, he's like Gilbert Arenas, he doesn't have the PG mindset, atleast Nelson will try to get his teammates involved, and is traditionally a good 3 point shooter. Monta is a 2, not a 1.
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Post#436 » by PeePee la Fritz » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:04 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:Otis should definitely help get Kaman in GS.



I dont know why GS wouldnt bite on a trade that nets them Kamen and a couple draft picks, especially if they can dump Lee's contract. They would have a ton of cap space and Curry, Thompson, and Udoh to build around. Thats a brighter future then the one they got now IMO
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Post#437 » by arkknight1988 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:04 am

i think the kings would LOVE to pair anderson with cousins. The kings are desperate for ticket sales and anderson is a hometown kid.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sjj5b9
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Post#438 » by PeePee la Fritz » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:05 am

arkknight1988 wrote:i think the kings would LOVE to pair anderson with cousins. The kings are desperate for ticket sales and anderson is a hometown kid.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sjj5b9




I honestly think this is the most feasible Monta proposal yet. I'd prefer Lee to Biedrins, but I am sure GS would rather dump Andres
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Post#439 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:07 am

arkknight1988 wrote:i think the kings would LOVE to pair anderson with cousins. The kings are desperate for ticket sales and anderson is a hometown kid.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sjj5b9

not bad. however, I'd keep Thorton in Sac-town and ship JRich to Golden State.
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Post#440 » by arkknight1988 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 3:11 am

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arkknight1988 wrote:i think the kings would LOVE to pair anderson with cousins. The kings are desperate for ticket sales and anderson is a hometown kid.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7sjj5b9




I honestly think this is the most feasible Monta proposal yet. I'd prefer Lee to Biedrins, but I am sure GS would rather dump Andres

gs gets a platoon of young bigs and a nice starting sg in thorton. also nelson would be a great fit there. SAC gets a great pf to compliment cousins game and a starting sg in jrich. orlando gets their man ellis and a backup center. next move would be get a better backup pg and possibly get sjax.

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