Golden State at Washington Game Thread 3/4 7pm et.

GhostsOfGil · Post #121 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:13 am

Wall shoots 70%, hands out 14 assists, drops 20 points, turns the ball over 2ce, and the wizards loose by 20+ :eek1:

Jay81 · Post #122 » by **Jay81** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:13 am

John Wall is a slightly improved jumper and better teammates away from being a top 5 player in this league. He has potential one day to average 21 pts, 6 reb, 11 assists a game

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #123 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:13 am

tontoz wrote:Vesely just had two (Please Use More Appropriate Word) turnovers. just pathetic.

Here's the problem, if Wittman takes him out he has to put McGee back in. Blatche was abominal. Vesely has been atrocious. McGee is a guy Wittman plainly despises. Javale, and rightly so if there's a poster boy for the cause, is the whipping boy. McGee makes it easy to be angry with his mistakes.

Still, the problem is Javale's not as bad as the rest of what's coming off the Wizard bench IMO.

If the message is boneheaded plays get punished, that door is a revolving one. It is not just McGee screwing up.

Post #124 » by **miller31time** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:14 am

John shot 7/9 from the field, had 20pts, 14asts, 6rebs and only 2 turnovers.

Perhaps he should have been more aggressive in the 2nd half.

Halcyon · Post #125 » by **Halcyon** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:14 am

I've only caught glimpses of the game, but it's incredible how Wall's only -1 on the game with 38 minutes played.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #126 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:14 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:Wall shoots 70%, hands out 14 assists, drops 20 points, turns the ball over 2ce, and the wizards loose by 20+

Who covered Monte in the first? Wall or Crawford? I didn't see it.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #127 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:17 am

Halcyon wrote:I've only caught glimpses of the game, but it's incredible how Wall's only -1 on the game with 38 minutes played.

McGee has 10 and 10 and is only -3.

The perception and coach's loathing for Javale is so pervasive that it boggles my mind. I want McGee traded, too. Not because he sucks so bad, but because he cause so much grief.

This game, Blatche and Mack were-20. Vesely and Young are -16 and -17.

Booker at 0 and Mason at +5 had nice runs.

(That David Lee was +33 and Udoh +1 makes you say they really took it to Blatche/Vesely and Wittman didn't really dial this one up well at all.)

GhostsOfGil · Post #128 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:17 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:Wall shoots 70%, hands out 14 assists, drops 20 points, turns the ball over 2ce, and the wizards loose by 20+

Who covered Monte in the first? Wall or Crawford? I didn't see it.

Wall. His defensive effort was pretty poor, although he had no help on the pnr.

tontoz · Post #129 » by **tontoz** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:17 am

GS shot 15-23 from 3 while Crawford/Singleton shot 1-10 from 3.

Jay81 · Post #130 » by **Jay81** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:19 am

Guys...Wall was horrid the first month.

He is averaging almost 18 pts, 5 reb and 8 assists a game despite that horrid first month. If he keeps working hard..he is a Tier 1 player. A top 5 in the league.

Jay81 · Post #131 » by **Jay81** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:20 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Halcyon wrote:I've only caught glimpses of the game, but it's incredible how Wall's only -1 on the game with 38 minutes played.

McGee has 10 and 10 and is only -3.

The perception and coach's loathing for Javale is so pervasive that it boggles my mind. I want McGee traded, too. Not because he sucks so bad, but because he cause so much grief.

This game, Blatche and Mack were-20. Vesely and Young are -16 and -17.

Booker at 0 and Mason at +5 had nice runs.

(That David Lee was +33 and Udoh +1 makes you say they really took it to Blatche/Vesely and Wittman didn't really dial this one up well at all.)

I wish we could convince Ted to let this board draft/sign free agents and make trades. We would be so much better than that moron who put this bag of WTF together

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #132 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:21 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:Wall shoots 70%, hands out 14 assists, drops 20 points, turns the ball over 2ce, and the wizards loose by 20+

Who covered Monte in the first? Wall or Crawford? I didn't see it.

Wall. His defensive effort was pretty poor, although he had no help on the pnr.

I brought that up, because in fairness, I don't want to get blasted for watching this one by box score.

Monta had 14 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds in the first quarter.

At one point Crawford was shooting 1-11. The rest of the Wizards weren't that cold.

GS hit 8-10 threes in the first half.

A lot of times McGee is blamed but the perimeter players got burned today.

hands11 · Post #133 » by **hands11** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:21 am

That went well.

15-23 from 3 65.2%

Pretty much the game right there.

And I have no idea what McGee was thinking tonight. I guess he thought he was Melo or something. Major relapse for McGee.

Booker at least manned up. And Ves while he made a couple bad passes player pretty well. If he hit a few more FTs he would have had a 2x 2x And Wall played well but was clearly frustrated. Still put up 14 assists 20 pts and 6 boards.

GS was just on fire shooting though. It would have taken a mammoth effect to match there shooting. We dont have the guns for that.

Post #134 » by **miller31time** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:23 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Halcyon wrote:I've only caught glimpses of the game, but it's incredible how Wall's only -1 on the game with 38 minutes played.

McGee has 10 and 10 and is only -3.

The perception and coach's loathing for Javale is so pervasive that it boggles my mind. I want McGee traded, too. Not because he sucks so bad, but because he cause so much grief.

This game, Blatche and Mack were-20. Vesely and Young are -16 and -17.

Booker at 0 and Mason at +5 had nice runs.

(That David Lee was +33 and Udoh +1 makes you say they really took it to Blatche/Vesely and Wittman didn't really dial this one up well at all.)

It probably doesn't hurt his +/- that he plays with John Wall. Watching JaVale today, he was atrocious. He was selfish and incredibly (for lack of a better word) stupid with his decision-making.

Even if the players that are replacing him aren't as talented and don't put up as good of raw numbers, you have to be able to see the rationale of playing guys who at least play the right way -- setting good screens, passing the ball out after a offensive rebound, not feeling entitled every time he receives the ball down low, etc.

You're absolutely right that Vesely is much worse than JaVale. As is Seraphin. But as a coach, you can live with their mistakes because they're done with good intention (trying to hit a teammate with an inadvertent pass, for example).

closg00 · Post #135 » by **closg00** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:24 am

Klay Thompson - 19 minutes 7-14 FGM 4-5 3-pointers for 18 points. Yeah, even he would have been a better pick over Ves. You don't take a hustle-player with zero offensive skills with your high lottery pick.

Jay81 · Post #136 » by **Jay81** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:25 am

I need Ted to explain these draft picks

Vesley
Singelton
Seraphin
Mack

thats 4 valuable picks that we drafted crap with

TGW · Post #137 » by **TGW** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:28 am

Javale is hilariously bad. He didn't help his trade value tonight...not at all.

Post #138 » by **nate33** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:29 am

zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
zaRdsAndZeRos wrote:Wall shoots 70%, hands out 14 assists, drops 20 points, turns the ball over 2ce, and the wizards loose by 20+

Who covered Monte in the first? Wall or Crawford? I didn't see it.

Wall. His defensive effort was pretty poor, although he had no help on the pnr.

Which is why McGee's minutes were limited.

hands11 · Post #139 » by **hands11** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:29 am

Just curious CCJ

Did you watch the game or are you reading the box scores on this one ?

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #140 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:34 am

miller31time wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
Halcyon wrote:I've only caught glimpses of the game, but it's incredible how Wall's only -1 on the game with 38 minutes played.

McGee has 10 and 10 and is only -3.

The perception and coach's loathing for Javale is so pervasive that it boggles my mind. I want McGee traded, too. Not because he sucks so bad, but because he cause so much grief.

This game, Blatche and Mack were-20. Vesely and Young are -16 and -17.

Booker at 0 and Mason at +5 had nice runs.

(That David Lee was +33 and Udoh +1 makes you say they really took it to Blatche/Vesely and Wittman didn't really dial this one up well at all.)

It probably doesn't hurt his +/- that he plays with John Wall. Watching JaVale today, he was atrocious. He was selfish and incredibly (for lack of a better word) stupid with his decision-making.

Even if the players that are replacing him aren't as talented and don't put up as good of raw numbers, you have to be able to see the rationale of playing guys who at least play the right way -- setting good screens, passing the ball out after a offensive rebound, not feeling entitled every time he receives the ball down low, etc.

You're absolutely right that Vesely is much worse than JaVale. As is Seraphin. But as a coach, you can live with their mistakes because they're done with good intention (trying to hit a teammate with an inadvertent pass, for example).

The best thing I can come up with is that in McGee's mind he probably thinks he needs numbers to get paid. Maybe they told him they don't mind him shooting if he's grabbing rebounds. Dude literally is putting the shot up if he grabs the ORB.

That's all I've got. He is not the brightest guy and it is pretty obvious to see McGee's agenda slowly unfold (because it apparently is how his mind works). He is locked in on trying to score for himself.

Could also be Chuck Crawford put up 7 shots as if he were a weapon set on fully automatic. McGee's just trying to get his.

Regardless, McGee's decision making is somewhat of an oxymoron.