2012 Trade Deadline Thread

[HornetJail]

Sure, if he's going to underperform just to get himself traded, I have no problem keeping his fat ass on the bench until his contract expires, unless we get a draft pick.

[Elden Payton]

I really think we should do the right thing with Diaw & either trade him or buy him out, great PR & stuff him if he's not down for the cause.

What about Diaw+Tyrus for Elton Brand+Philly's 2012 first?

I would rather 2 years of Brand's contract than 4 years of Tyrus, Philly may do it for depth & escaping Brand 2 years early, Tyrus would have value for them.

Brand would be great as a vet leader and can still perform.

This may cut into our FA aspirations this year but we don't figure to be major players anyway, I think it would be better to hold off a season & in the next FA market offer a superstar the max plus the prospect of playing with a roster of Kemba+Henderson+top five pick 2013+A.Davis+Biyombo.

[Diop]

Philly wouldn't do it.

Diaw and TT's trade value would have to be at their lowest.

We aint getting **** for them.

The only players I could see us getting a first for are Dj, Kemba, Hendo and Biz.
No one else is worth a first.

So lets hope they get the maximum they can for Dj.

[Elden Payton]

I'd do it for a second honestly & maybe Philly would do it for that, I think they would consider trading their late first to escape brand to avoid the lux when signing Holiday.

[Kembastockton]

Bobcats will not. Cho is determined to head into the 12 and or 13 free agencies with plenty cash.

[Fred Williamson]

Why bother? He's expiring anyway. Try to find a way to get rid of Tyrus' useless, overpaid ass. He won't get any better to increase his value. Every GM in the league knows how much he sucks

[Downtown]

I think it would be a safe bet to say they are going to stick to their strategy and hang onto Diaw for another week until the trade deadline has passed just in case someone out there does make some sort of offer that makes sense. There's absolutely no harm in that time frame. I can't see any mind you other than to attach Diaw to Augustin, but I don't think it will happen that way. And Thomas unfortunately is a non issue as a trade candidate this season, with or without Diaw or Augustin attached.

It's just a waiting game now. I don't see your team desperate to be the callers in any deals unless it's to a team willing to give up a low first round pick for Augustin, so the ball is in other teams court, and if no team can offer up anything that fits with your managements philosophy then it becomes a matter of how badly Diaw wants out, which translates to how big of a buyout he would take to go somewhere else.

[bobcats3wallace]

Brand is an expiring contract next year at just over 18 million. Tyrus has 3 years after this season with about 26 million left. So, your telling me that Cho wouldn't take an opportunity to get a pick, ditch Tyrus, AND save money? Your out of your mind. Take the short-term hit in next years off season to gain the long-term flexibility you would gain. Plus, if you really look at it, if Cho had a superstar he thought he could get, they could still amnesty Maggette and gain the same cap space they would have had without the Tyrus for Brand swap.

Diaw + Thomas for Brand + Late first. I would do that in a quick second! I seriously doubt that the 76ers would do it though. I might even consider it if it were just Diaw + Thomas for Brand and a 2nd, maybe even jut Brand. This team is trying to save money and this would save them 8 million over the long hall. Why would the 76ers do it though? Brand is their leading scorer and what would they be getting in return? More salary and two players that have really struggled this season. They would gain more space next season, almost 10 million, to keep the under the tax and sign Holliday, but that would be about it.

[Kembastockton]

Brand is an expiring contract next year at just over 18 million. Tyrus has 3 years after this season with about 26 million left. So, your telling me that Cho wouldn't take an opportunity to get a pick, ditch Tyrus, AND save money? Your out of your mind. Take the short-term hit in next years off season to gain the long-term flexibility you would gain. Plus, if you really look at it, if Cho had a superstar he thought he could get, they could still amnesty Maggette and gain the same cap space they would have had without the Tyrus for Brand swap.

Diaw + Thomas for Brand + Late first. I would do that in a quick second! I seriously doubt that the 76ers would do it though. I might even consider it if it were just Diaw + Thomas for Brand and a 2nd, maybe even jut Brand. This team is trying to save money and this would save them 8 million over the long hall. Why would the 76ers do it though? Brand is their leading scorer and what would they be getting in return? More salary and two players that have really struggled this season. They would gain more space next season, almost 10 million, to keep the under the tax and sign Holliday, but that would be about it.

Tyrus is owed about 33 million the next four years, and we can amnesty him any time. Brand is owed 35 million the next two years, and we would have to pay every dime. In what world is that saving money ?

[chrbal]

If possible, I say we set up a 3 team trade with the Lakers and the Nets. Lakers would get Diaw via their Odom trade excemption. The Bobcats would get Anthony Morrow, Johan Petro, Shawne Williams, and 1st round picks from the Nets and Lakers. The Nets wind up with a 2nd round pick, large trade excemption, and the rights to some random player.

Why for the Lakers? They use their trade excemption without really giving up much. Diaw would be a good fit their, or help set up another trade.

Why for the Nets? clear out some cludder and save money.

Why for the Bobcats? Forced to amnesty Matt or DeSagana. Add some bench players and more importantly, draft picks.

[BigSlam]

Is fat f*ck still on our team?

[Snidely FC]

Hollinger article on Insider talks about teams doing something he calls "Body-Snatching", grabbing promising players who've fallen out of favor with their current teams and may be available as throw-ins in a larger trade.
RLopez, Budinger, Marcus Morris, Auustin Daye, JFarmar, Tobias Harris/Jon Leuer, Anthony Randolph, Elliott Williams, and . . . Shockingly, Tyrus Thomas. His main thesis is that Tyrus needs a change of scenary, 'cause its hard to believe hes gotten this bad this suddenly.

He calls Tyrus a "pay me to take him" type because of a contract that pays him $25 million over the three years after this one, says Thomas nonetheless might be intriguing for the right team, notes he was "devastatingly effective a year ago but has been suddenly awful this season, partly because he's played out of position at the 3 and partly because, well, he's been awful. He can be a handful, too." Hollinger added,"On the other hand he's only 25 years old and averaged nearly a point every two minutes a year ago; his 8.53 PER this year is dreadful but I have a hard time believing he's truly become this bad this quickly."

[BobsBuddy]

Ok It's time to get serious here.
1.With a 5-35? record WE DO NOT PAY FRENCHIE a DIME to buy him out. PARK HIS ASS next to MJ for the rest of the season.
2. If you haven't figured it out Boris is "sandbagging". The NYK and LAL are just waiting for us to cut him.
3. We will trade him before 3-15-2012 deadline. Put that one in the book.
4. I suspect we will get an expiring vet and some young prospect contract back.
5. Watch Wires on all contenders boards---- Boris may end up playing in the2012 NBA Finals?

[KembaWalker]

Hollinger's obsessed with his PER to a fault. He thinks we must be misusing Tyrus because his gigantic PER drop off. How about just watching him play for about 2 minutes, look at his 20+ pound weight loss and loss of all athleticism. If only GMs were as blind as him, we might be able to dump Tyrus on someone

[bobcats3wallace]

Brand is an expiring contract next year at just over 18 million. Tyrus has 3 years after this season with about 26 million left. So, your telling me that Cho wouldn't take an opportunity to get a pick, ditch Tyrus, AND save money? Your out of your mind. Take the short-term hit in next years off season to gain the long-term flexibility you would gain. Plus, if you really look at it, if Cho had a superstar he thought he could get, they could still amnesty Maggette and gain the same cap space they would have had without the Tyrus for Brand swap.

Diaw + Thomas for Brand + Late first. I would do that in a quick second! I seriously doubt that the 76ers would do it though. I might even consider it if it were just Diaw + Thomas for Brand and a 2nd, maybe even jut Brand. This team is trying to save money and this would save them 8 million over the long hall. Why would the 76ers do it though? Brand is their leading scorer and what would they be getting in return? More salary and two players that have really struggled this season. They would gain more space next season, almost 10 million, to keep the under the tax and sign Holliday, but that would be about it.

Tyrus is owed about 33 million the next four years, and we can amnesty him any time. Brand is owed 35 million the next two years, and we would have to pay every dime. In what world is that saving money ?

You have to realize that with the shortened season this year the salaries are much lower and you wouldn't be paying his full salary for this year. You have to look at the future. Who would we spend that money on THIS offseason? Lets be real, IF we are going to compete anytime soon then we are going to do it after next off season. If we keep Tyrus, sure we could amnesty him, but MJ and company STILL have to pay him. That would hamper efforts to spend more on players just the same as if he was still on the roster. On the other hand Brand is a HUGE expiring contract next season which is an asset on its own. He is still a serviceable big that is more productive that Thomas has ever been, so in an on court perspective he is an upgrade. Plus you get all that money off the books NOW, which is what the Bobcats are trying to do.

You have to realize, you STILL pay every dime even when amnestying. It just means that it won't count against your cap, MJ is still paying his full contract.....

Trading for Brand WOULD help this team financially, not hurt them. It would be a kind of trade Cho would likely want to be involved in (only if it was Tyrus going back). It's a pointless discussion though because the 76ers would never do it. But just know the theory behind it, because that is something that Cho is looking to do. Shed a long term contract for a short term one while also gaining a future asset in a pick and huge expiring.

[vorbis]

Is fat f*ck still on our team?

maybe not for long!

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_n ... -why-.html

“I like a player who is really committed to not only the team but to himself and then doing the best he can as a player,’’ Silas said. “Some of the things that would go on, like not shooting the ball (and) passing all of the time... I needed hoops and he could put the ball in the hoop. When that wouldn’t happen it was very disturbing.’’

Asked if Diaw would ever play again for the Bobcats, Silas replied, “We just have to wait and see.’’

[raleigh]

Ouch.

The Hawks dealt with this side of Diaw a few years back.

[Eoghan]

I'll be honest, I'm a Boris Diaw fan. That being said, Boris can't help this team. He's a guy that needs to play with good players to make them even better, not a guy that can carry a young team and make them decent.

We're just not a good fit for Boris and essentially never have been when it became evident that we're going to be rebuilding.

[TheKingofSting]

Doris' fat arse didn't even dress out tonight, I'm starting to be a fan of making him sit and rot on the bench the rest of the season approach!

[Rich4114]

What about Tyrus for Beasley? Would that work for both teams? Two guys who probably need a change of scenery?