Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

[fallacy]

I don't understand why we're talking about a rental ..

Why wouldn't Dwight wanna extend in OKC?

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is more balanced, younger & IMO more likely to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4 but multiple championships ..

Best scorer in the game + he's clutch (Hi LeBron, how ya doin), top-tier PG Westbrook & a great coach

No, Dwight wants to go play with Old Man Kobe or Deron Williams + a gutted NJ roster

Thanks for the compliments but the bolded part is far from true. He's a terrible coach outside of motivation. Ask any OKC fan how they feel about Brooks

[BelgianMagic]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

4 PGs? & No Stephen Jackson?

Include Duhon going out & Jackson coming in & that would be a solid trade for us IMO

[InFlames]

I don't understand why we're talking about a rental ..

Why wouldn't Dwight wanna extend in OKC?

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is more balanced, younger & IMO more likely to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4 but multiple championships ..

Best scorer in the game + he's clutch (Hi LeBron, how ya doin), top-tier PG Westbrook & a great coach

No, Dwight wants to go play with Old Man Kobe or Deron Williams + a gutted NJ roster

I see you are still under the impression that Dwight only cares about winning.

[ChildishGambino]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

don't like that deal.....we're trading JJ and our young guys for a ok player in Ersan and the Puerto Rican Jameer Nelson?

[bonanz]

lol if duhon is gone and replaced with barea we can call our pg rotation the lollipop guild

[BelgianMagic]

I don't understand why we're talking about a rental ..

Why wouldn't Dwight wanna extend in OKC?

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is more balanced, younger & IMO more likely to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4 but multiple championships ..

Best scorer in the game + he's clutch (Hi LeBron, how ya doin), top-tier PG Westbrook & a great coach

No, Dwight wants to go play with Old Man Kobe or Deron Williams + a gutted NJ roster

Thanks for the compliments but the bolded part is far from true. He's a terrible coach outside of motivation. Ask any OKC fan how they feel about Brooks

Didn't know you guys didn't like him .. Always thought everyone considered him a good coach

[magicman123]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

don't like that deal.....we're trading JJ and our young guys for a ok player in Ersan and the Puerto Rican Jameer Nelson?

the thing that worries me is that ersan is a free agent, it wouldnt make sense to give him the money he is looking for, so it ends up being redick for barea, and than harper and fran

[JarethCutestory]

Barea would be cute but Ersan is Ryan lite and Brockman is decent at best. Doesn't really do much but make our depth more reliable I guess.

[ADRajX]

yeesh. that Milwaukee-Wolves-Magic trade rumor blows

Let's go back to Milwaukee-Warriors-Magic or the OKC fantasy instead

[BelgianMagic]

I don't understand why we're talking about a rental ..

Why wouldn't Dwight wanna extend in OKC?

Westbrook/Durant/Howard is more balanced, younger & IMO more likely to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4 but multiple championships ..

Best scorer in the game + he's clutch (Hi LeBron, how ya doin), top-tier PG Westbrook & a great coach

No, Dwight wants to go play with Old Man Kobe or Deron Williams + a gutted NJ roster

I see you are still under the impression that Dwight only cares about winning.

Yeah, it amazes me every single day that winning isn't what Dwight really wants .. I can give everyone a long "where I come from, people ..." about loyalty & competition, but I think everyone thinks about it that way

I still don't get it, "a big stage" "big lights" should be something for actors/singers, not athletes.

[ChildishGambino]

^^well then i'm glad Hollinger is not our GM

[Swiftraven]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

don't like that deal.....we're trading JJ and our young guys for a ok player in Ersan and the Puerto Rican Jameer Nelson?

..but we get to hear Matty say "little JJ Barea" like 20 times a night...

[Def Swami]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

don't like that deal.....we're trading JJ and our young guys for a ok player in Ersan and the Puerto Rican Jameer Nelson?

I don't think we were ever going to see our young guys. Orton was going to be traded, Fran was never going to come, and I'll miss Harper. We basically trade one bench guy for 3 upgrades on the bench. JJ is a decent back up point guard, Ersan imo would actually compete with Ryan for the starting PF spot, and Brockman is finally a back up center. We greatly improve our depth, and acquire much better trade pieces.

I like Ersan a lot. He's going to be a great PF. Over the last 10 games, he's averaged 18 ppg, 12 rpg, and .8 bpg, on 52% fg%. He's a legit PF that controls the glass and has a nice mid-range shot. But we'd have 3 PF's. Someone would be moved.

[Def Swami]

If that Mil-Min-Orl idea was real, it would make us a deeper team and I think more importantly, provide us more trade assets. I think teams are more attracted to Ersan and Barea than they are Ryan and Duhon.

[magicman123]

hey guys, need a backup center? well thats not me hehe

[bonanz]

an just confirmed, it's not a rumor, just a stupid hollinger "idea"

[Def Swami]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=85wkxd4
Magic Receive: Monta Ellis and Stephen Jackson
Bucks Receive: Hedo Turkoglu, Michael Beasley, and Kwame Brown
Warriors Receive: Andrew Bogut and Glen Davis
Wolves Receive: JJ Redick

Edit: Don't even need Minny in this deal. Bucks could just get JJ or J-Rich straight up.

Magic Receive: Monta and Capt Jack
Bucks Receive: Turk, JJ, and Kwame
Warriors Receive: Bogut and Big Baby

Comes down to if GS and Orl can team up to make it the Bucks while. GS throws in Udoh, Orlando their 2013 1st. Not sure if that's enough. Depends on the other offers they get

Yep, the ESPN article stated the Wiz as having interest. They have a lot of nice young players but I doubt they'd want to take on Stephen Jackson. I think the fact that the Magic would be willing to take on Capt. Jack plays into this trade scenario's favor.

[toquito]

Barea would be cute

lmao

[papa_clipse]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

2011-12 Season

Ersan Ilyasova PF
PPG RPG BLKPG PER
11.6 8.9 0.7 19.49

JJ Barea PG
PPG APG RPG PER
9.1 3.3 2.3 13.43

Jon Brockman F
PPG APG RPG PER
1.0 0.3 2.1 5.86

[ChildishGambino]

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
Hollinger suggests Magic/Wolves/Bucks deal wherein ORL gets Brockman, Barea, Ersan for JJ, Orton, Harper, Fran rights.

Evan Dunlap ‏ @BQRMagic
That's a deal ORL would have to strongly consider, even if it means QRich is the backup SG.

I am not familiar enough with those guys to have any kind of informed decision on it.

don't like that deal.....we're trading JJ and our young guys for a ok player in Ersan and the Puerto Rican Jameer Nelson?

I don't think we were ever going to see our young guys. Orton was going to be traded, Fran was never going to come, and I'll miss Harper. We basically trade one bench guy for 3 upgrades on the bench. JJ is a decent back up point guard, Ersan imo would actually compete with Ryan for the starting PF spot, and Brockman is finally a back up center. We greatly improve our depth, and acquire much better trade pieces.

I like Ersan a lot. He's going to be a great PF. Over the last 10 games, he's averaged 18 ppg, 12 rpg, and .8 bpg, on 52% fg%. He's a legit PF that controls the glass and has a nice mid-range shot. But we'd have 3 PF's. Someone would be moved.

i don't know if Depth really matters with Stan as our coach....imo we have depth right now except at the Center spot but Stan doesn't explore the bench and doesn't use different combinations....we get those guys and how long will it take them to learn the "System" and become staples in the rotation?

Ersan is ok but i think Ryan is better and has more potential.....Brockman is basically a body bag...no special skills to speak of instead of flopping to draw charges.....Barea is basically what i said....the Puerto Rican Jameer Nelson except shorter and if that's possible