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Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1121 » by backasswards » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:20 am

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bigpimpatl wrote:why are you guys so obsessed with Stephen Jackson...he sucks. He's not worth giving up any of our players for. I wouldn't trade him for Ryno, Redick, or Baby. If we trade him for Turk our offense probably comes to a halt, and trading nelson means Duhon starts. There is no good end scenario.

I'd consider dealing Jrich, but nobody will take on that long term contract.


Because Dwight wants him.

Who gives a **** what Dwight wants. He doesn't run the team. Is he really going to be a cry baby because we won't get everyone he wants on his stupid list. He also wanted Glenn **** Davis and he's played like garbage pretty much all season. How good do you guys think Jackson is if the **** Bucks are desperately trying to get rid of him?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1122 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:20 am

Looked at the last three pages....so basically nothings happened. Going back to bed.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1123 » by PeePee la Fritz » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:21 am

I know Ryno posts a lot of religious tweets, but the ones today seem ominous/or referring to a big change in his life. What other problems would Ryno have other then being traded?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1124 » by Dunkin On Ya » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:25 am

darthmerrick wrote:I'm willing to bet money the YRB deal consists of a three team with Milwaukee and Golden State. Only deal that nets to players on Dwight's wish list Monta and Stephen Jackson

JJ, Hedo, Biedrins, Orton to Milwaukee

Stephen Jackson, Drew Gooden, and Monta Ellis to Orlando

Jameer, Orlando 1st rounder & Bogut to Golden State



There is no way Milwaukee would accept that deal. Terrible contracts and terrible value. I would think they could do better than that dealing with Houston who has offered Martin and Scola for Gasol.

The deal between the Bucks and Warriors probably looks similar to this:

Andris Biedrins, Kwame Brown (expiring), Ekpe Udoh and Klay Thompson for Bogut and Jackson.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1125 » by InFlames » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:26 am

backasswards wrote:
InFlames wrote:
bigpimpatl wrote:why are you guys so obsessed with Stephen Jackson...he sucks. He's not worth giving up any of our players for. I wouldn't trade him for Ryno, Redick, or Baby. If we trade him for Turk our offense probably comes to a halt, and trading nelson means Duhon starts. There is no good end scenario.

I'd consider dealing Jrich, but nobody will take on that long term contract.


Because Dwight wants him.

Who gives a **** what Dwight wants. He doesn't run the team. Is he really going to be a cry baby because we won't get everyone he wants on his stupid list. He also wanted Glenn **** Davis and he's played like garbage pretty much all season. How good do you guys think Jackson is if the **** Bucks are desperately trying to get rid of him?


I hear you bro, but if Dwight will opt in because of it you have to do it. I never said Jackson was good.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1126 » by OrlandO » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:28 am

InFlames wrote:
bigpimpatl wrote:why are you guys so obsessed with Stephen Jackson...he sucks. He's not worth giving up any of our players for. I wouldn't trade him for Ryno, Redick, or Baby. If we trade him for Turk our offense probably comes to a halt, and trading nelson means Duhon starts. There is no good end scenario.

I'd consider dealing Jrich, but nobody will take on that long term contract.


Because Dwight wants him.

Dwight wanted him (past tense)... how do you know he still wants him now after the horrible numbers he's been putting up this year. He's older, seems out of shape and has completely given up this year - it's hard to believe he can just turn it back on at this point in his career.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1127 » by InFlames » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:30 am

OrlandO wrote:
InFlames wrote:
bigpimpatl wrote:why are you guys so obsessed with Stephen Jackson...he sucks. He's not worth giving up any of our players for. I wouldn't trade him for Ryno, Redick, or Baby. If we trade him for Turk our offense probably comes to a halt, and trading nelson means Duhon starts. There is no good end scenario.

I'd consider dealing Jrich, but nobody will take on that long term contract.


Because Dwight wants him.

Dwight wanted him (past tense)... how do you know he still wants him now after the horrible numbers he's been putting up this year. He's older, seems out of shape and has completely given up this year - it's hard to believe he can just turn it back on at this point in his career.


I don't know. I was just explaining why Orlando would trade for him.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1128 » by Dunkin On Ya » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:47 am

PeePee la Fritz wrote:I know Ryno posts a lot of religious tweets, but the ones today seem ominous/or referring to a big change in his life. What other problems would Ryno have other then being traded?


Yeah, it seems as if he is dealing with something or about to deal with something. Maybe Stan yelled at him too much in practice today.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1129 » by NW » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:52 am

JarethCutestory wrote:http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=75atklm

Hire me


That's murderous for Milwaukee.

Warriors and Magic will need to team up on assets to appeal to the Bucks. Likely a combo of Udoh, Orlando's unprotected 2013 pick, Kwame Brown's expiring, Reddick/Clark/Orton (Hopefully the Bucks like some of those guys) etc.

If they're dealing Bogut, and Jennings already said he wants out, it's all about a rebuild.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1130 » by gp123 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:55 am

I am surprised they want to deal bogut...

i mean he's injured but come on, he's the piece you build around. maybe they know something about his health that we don't
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1131 » by Reverse_Angle » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:10 am

gp123 wrote:I am surprised they want to deal bogut...

i mean he's injured but come on, he's the piece you build around. maybe they know something about his health that we don't


He is a piece that would keep your team around 8th seed forever.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1132 » by eyriq » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:18 am

Reverse_Angle wrote:
gp123 wrote:I am surprised they want to deal bogut...

i mean he's injured but come on, he's the piece you build around. maybe they know something about his health that we don't


He is a piece that would keep your team around 8th seed forever.


I don't agree with this at all. He is a premier defensive anchor in the league. You can put 2nd tier playmaking and shot creation around him, alongside some great shooting, and contend imo. Injuries derailed Milwaukee's chances, but I really liked the team they put together.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1133 » by rcklsscognition » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:28 am

Just read on ESPN Magic are offering Hedo and 2 1st rounders to anyone who will take them. Not sure if it was posted. Seems we're desperate and that is a move signalling Dwight is staying.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1134 » by TheDarkKnight » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:29 am

Well if we don't get Beasly the Nets will and Dwight could use that as an excuse to leave specially if he asked the management to go after Beas

As the Nets play themselves back into the playoff picture, they may be on the market to improve their roster in the form of an expiring contract.

“It’s about trying to add to this team,” Billy King said. “We’ll look at other things that I was already talking about doing with other teams. Had some things on the table that I’m exploring that will maybe create more cap space for us in the future, maybe bring some more players or some key pieces as we go forward,” King said.

Michael Beasley will be a restricted free agent this summer and has had hit name floated. Beasley is also represented by the same agent as Deron Williams.

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Post#1135 » by BN » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:30 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Just read on ESPN Magic are offering Hedo and 2 1st rounders to anyone who will take them. Not sure if it was posted. Seems we're desperate and that is a move signalling Dwight is staying.


Perhaps someone should explain Otis that's not how it works...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1136 » by Tayswagzzz » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:30 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Just read on ESPN Magic are offering Hedo and 2 1st rounders to anyone who will take them. Not sure if it was posted. Seems we're desperate and that is a move signalling Dwight is staying.


Awesome. We won't need those 1st rounders if we can keep Dwight with the franchise for the rest of his career.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1137 » by gp123 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:32 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Just read on ESPN Magic are offering Hedo and 2 1st rounders to anyone who will take them. Not sure if it was posted. Seems we're desperate and that is a move signalling Dwight is staying.


can you link?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1138 » by Phantom418 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:34 am

For some reason I can see us trading Hedo+picks for S. Jax.....Otis is good for outbidding himself in a trade nowadays.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1139 » by ADRajX » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:38 am

Warriors offering Monta Ellis and David Lee for Dwight Howard
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...The Warriors got nowhere when they recently tried to get Dwight Howard in a deal. A Warrior executive said the Magic turned down Monta Ellis and David Lee, with Orlando telling the Warriors it will only move Howard by Thursday’s trading deadline if it can get a “major player” in return. The only thing major about Ellis and Lee are their bloated contracts, with each pocketing about $11 million this season...
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV: Trade Deadline cont. 

Post#1140 » by gp123 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:38 am

I'm surprised we would try to move hedo... like it or not the guy is a key cog in our system and my guess is dwight likes having him around as well.

Maybe GSW wants us to take biedrins as well as taking on Sjax and we need to clear space?

Just can't see anyone wanting to take hedo's contract.

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