Official Speculation Thread (Pt XV, Mods Close)

ChildishGambino · Post #1161 » by **ChildishGambino** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:08 am

Golden State is either extremely faded or they're just trying to take advantage of the situation....IMO i don't think Ellis+Lee+Curry is equal value for Dwight but they're talking about only dealing Ellis for Howard.....I like Ellis and i really appreciate his talent and how he plays the game but Golden State is really gassing him up for someone who has never been an All-Star and has never lead his team past the first round.....hell most years they're fighting for 8th seed if that......

Golden State might be trying to game us here....could it be posturing of some sort? IDK

ADRajX · Post #1162 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:12 am

ChildishGambino wrote:Golden State is either extremely faded or they're just trying to take advantage of the situation....IMO i don't think Ellis+Lee+Curry is equal value for Dwight but they're talking about only dealing Ellis for Howard.....I like Ellis and i really appreciate his talent and how he plays the game but Golden State is really gassing him up for someone who has never been an All-Star and has never lead his team past the first round.....hell most years they're fighting for 8th seed if that......

Golden State might be trying to game us here....could it be posturing of some sort? IDK

exactly... that's why I became frustrated with them... if this whole Dwight "trade request" thing wasn't public, I'm sure they wouldn't play hard ball like that... it's just crazy to think they value Ellis on the same level as Howard... and I like Ellis a lot, he's a star... but he is no Howard level star.

I'm also frustrated due to the reports that the Lakers want to trade Gasol to GS for Ellis and Lee, and the GS front office actually seemed intrigued by it. How is that any better or equal to Howard for Ellis? Makes no sense. Pau is in his 30s and on a terrible deal. That's why I think GS's front office is irritating.

You're correct about the posturing... it's just at an asinine level.

Reverse_Angle · Post #1163 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:13 am

ChildishGambino wrote:Golden State is either extremely faded or they're just trying to take advantage of the situation....IMO i don't think Ellis+Lee+Curry is equal value for Dwight but they're talking about only dealing Ellis for Howard.....I like Ellis and i really appreciate his talent and how he plays the game but Golden State is really gassing him up for someone who has never been an All-Star and has never lead his team past the first round.....hell most years they're fighting for 8th seed if that......

Golden State might be trying to game us here....could it be posturing of some sort? IDK

correct me if I am wrong, but they did pass the 1st round once. :lol:

seriously though, their GM is that guy who sucks his belly in and stick on his chest to seem muscular. But in fact, he haven't worked out in years. The problem here is that he buys into his own posturing and becomes delusional.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1164 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:23 am

Reverse_Angle wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:Golden State is either extremely faded or they're just trying to take advantage of the situation....IMO i don't think Ellis+Lee+Curry is equal value for Dwight but they're talking about only dealing Ellis for Howard.....I like Ellis and i really appreciate his talent and how he plays the game but Golden State is really gassing him up for someone who has never been an All-Star and has never lead his team past the first round.....hell most years they're fighting for 8th seed if that......

Golden State might be trying to game us here....could it be posturing of some sort? IDK

correct me if I am wrong, but they did pass the 1st round once.

seriously though, their GM is that guy who sucks his belly in and stick on his chest to seem muscular. But in fact, he haven't worked out in years. The problem here is that he buys into his own posturing and becomes delusional.

I personally think its the owner Lacob. He came in with all these big promises and now he is trying to make the big move to show the fan base a change in culture

RookieStar · Post #1165 » by **RookieStar** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:23 am

Guys, when do you think the floodgates will open? This has got to be the most boring trade deadline ever. There aren't even news about potential trades...

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #1166 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:23 am

Maybe they need dwight himself to call Golden State and tell them he wont play there

Tayswagzzz · Post #1167 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:24 am

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:Maybe they need dwight himself to call Golden State and tell them he wont play there

Lol well he told their coach that. :lol:

Post #1168 » by **FFBlitzace** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:24 am

DJRajX wrote:If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

Can someone catch me up on this?

ChildishGambino · Post #1169 » by **ChildishGambino** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:25 am

Reverse_Angle wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:Golden State is either extremely faded or they're just trying to take advantage of the situation....IMO i don't think Ellis+Lee+Curry is equal value for Dwight but they're talking about only dealing Ellis for Howard.....I like Ellis and i really appreciate his talent and how he plays the game but Golden State is really gassing him up for someone who has never been an All-Star and has never lead his team past the first round.....hell most years they're fighting for 8th seed if that......

Golden State might be trying to game us here....could it be posturing of some sort? IDK

correct me if I am wrong, but they did pass the 1st round once.

seriously though, their GM is that guy who sucks his belly in and stick on his chest to seem muscular. But in fact, he haven't worked out in years. The problem here is that he buys into his own posturing and becomes delusional.

Oh yeah they did make past the first round i think that was the "We believe" year when they beat dallas.....but if i'm correct Ellis wasn't even a Starter at that point i could be wrong.....If he is sucking his belly in then Otis or somebody from our side needs to punch him right in his gut...knock the air out of him so some of the synapses in his brain can start firing.....

It's like they have a two pair trying to raise the stakes on us knowing that we have a full house.....why? IDK maybe it is a bluff...maybe they're trying to see if we blink first in some kid of dumb ass game of chicken.....

ADRajX · Post #1170 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:28 am

FFBlitzace wrote:
DJRajX wrote:If this YBR guy (who seems nice) is wrong and nothing goes down... I'm never going to TBN again, nor will I ever refer or listen to their "inside sources". Sound like a deal guys?

Can someone catch me up on this?

somewhere from page 60-63 here... a guy at True Blue Nation posted this (the same guy that posted Dwight Howard Twitter Direct Messages a couple month ago to his facebook and linked them, for proof purposes, and later deleted them.)

NickAnderson wrote:
YaBoyRich, on 10 March 2012 - 02:40 AM, said:
...Guys take this for what its worth but i think ive got GOOD news about Dwight staying....I cant say now but something, i believe if everything goes correctly, is about to happen that will please Dwight...cant wait, GO MAGIC

This is the same guy that Dwight DM'ed on twitter.. strap in lol.. I actually believe he's heard something.

JarethCutestory · Post #1171 » by **JarethCutestory** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:32 am

Magical says we may be getting J-Smoove AND Nash. 3 way talks are ongoing.

STRAP IN MY CHICKEN NUGGETS

Noonskadoodle · Post #1172 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:33 am

@R2theickie I suspect the magic are in 3 way trade talks attempting to get josh smith and maybe Nash as well.

Magical

Post #1173 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:36 am

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
ChosenSavior wrote:Damn what a bummer. I come back from playing ball and I see nothing has happened so far. And LOL @ the offer Golden State presented to the Magic for Dwight.

I can't wait to get back so I can play ball anytime of the year. I hate it here. Where do u play at?

I hear you man. I play and run my own basketball league in San Antonio, TX. We started small but now we are starting to attract a lot of guys who have played overseas, college, semi-pro etc. so it is a very competitive basketball league. This season we are playing for money so the playoffs should get really interesting... :lol:

Post #1174 » by **FFBlitzace** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:37 am

Thanks Raj.

MagicConfid > Magical.

InFlames · Post #1175 » by **InFlames** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:39 am

JarethCutestory wrote:Magical says we may be getting J-Smoove AND Nash. 3 way talks are ongoing.

STRAP IN MY CHICKEN NUGGETS

Nash and Smith?! We might as well get Lebron too.

bigdogdylan5 · Post #1176 » by **bigdogdylan5** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:40 am

Noonskadoodle wrote:@R2theickie I suspect the magic are in 3 way trade talks attempting to get josh smith and maybe Nash as well.

Magical

Who is this??? is he credible???

JarethCutestory · Post #1177 » by **JarethCutestory** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:40 am

Discussions between the Hawks and Magic are "totally legit," a source tells CBS' Ken Berger.
Executives told Berger that the Hawks have "expressed an eagerness to move Smith and would like to shed salary in the process." The Magic are in desperation mode as they try to retain Dwight Howard, and adding a talent like Smoove would be a step in the right direction. The Magic would instantly become a defensive force with Smith and Howard, two of the most dominating defenders in the NBA.
Source: cbssports.com Wed, Jun 22, 2011 10:46:00 AM

Nothings changed

ADRajX · Post #1178 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:40 am

FFBlitzace wrote:Thanks Raj.

you're welcome bro

ADRajX · Post #1179 » by **ADRajX** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:41 am

JarethCutestory wrote:
Discussions between the Hawks and Magic are "totally legit," a source tells CBS' Ken Berger.
Executives told Berger that the Hawks have "expressed an eagerness to move Smith and would like to shed salary in the process." The Magic are in desperation mode as they try to retain Dwight Howard, and adding a talent like Smoove would be a step in the right direction. The Magic would instantly become a defensive force with Smith and Howard, two of the most dominating defenders in the NBA.
Source: cbssports.com Wed, Jun 22, 2011 10:46:00 AM

Nothings changed

I remember that... sigh

ChildishGambino · Post #1180 » by **ChildishGambino** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:42 am

Smith and Nash....ok....who do we give up? i can see all our 3pt shooters gone lol.....J-Rich....Redick....Anderson....Jameer....Hedo....just don't see us blowing up the team like that....IDK....it would basically force Stan to play a different way....we can't play 1 in 4 out if Nash is the only good 3pt shooter on our team after the alleged deal.....Pray to god that if we do make a deal that we don't get Stuck with Big Baby Starting....that would be.....