Official Trade Ideas Thread

[mihail_petkov]

Gasol for Martin and Scola

Sessions for 1 1st rounders

Beasley for TPE

Sessions, Kevin Martin, Kobe, Scola, Bynum
Blake/Fisher God, Metta/Barns, Beasley, Murphy/McRoberts

I think this team is much better than the current. At the moment we don't have depth. Three players + scrubs can't win a championship! With this team offense will be much better.

[Jajwanda]

If Houston is desperate to keep Lowry then perhaps you ask them to take on Walton?

[ALL HAIL]

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but why would the Warriors not want Gasol.

Yeah, I know he makes 20 mil, but Lee and Biedrins together make 21 mill.

Which frontcourt would you rather have?

Gasol/McRoberts (23 million total) or Lee/Biedrins (21 million)?

No question right?

... so the money arguement is moot to me.

Gasol gives the Warriors a legitimate, dynamic center, something they need.

The price of course is Steph Curry.

It's funny because the Warriors have the same issue in the backcourt that we have at center.

They are blessed to have two guys on the same team with very similiar skillsets who can cover for the other guy if they are out.

They have to make a decision between Ellis and Curry like we have to make a decision between Gasol and Bynum.

They really want Curry, but Ellis won't bring them enough back ... on the other hand, much like Andrew Bynum, Steph Curry's value could fill all their holes:

The trade should've looked like this:

Lakers trade: Gasol, Blake, McRoberts, Barnes, and Morris
Lakers get: Lee, Curry, Wright, Biedrins

Lakers:

PG - Curry - Arenas
SG - Bryant - Fisher - Goudelock
C - Bynum - Biedrins
PF - Wallace - Lee - Murphy
SF - World Peace - Wright

Warriors:

PG - Blake - Morris
SG - Ellis - Rush
C - Gasol - Brown - McRoberts
PF - Udoh - (scoring PF)
SF - Thompson - Barnes

This Warriors team is a much better team than they are now and the money is the same. Gasol stabilizes a legitimizes that entire roster. Ellis, Gasol, Thompson has better balance and is more dynamic than Ellis, Lee, Curry.

Note: Darius Morris would be a starter next to Ellis in less than two years (as a regular rotation player behind Blake).

[Jetset]

Who is that Wallace and why is he starting over Lee? Definitely can't be Rasheed.

And why is Peace starting over Wright?

[Doormatt]

And why is Peace starting over Wright?

for the lulz

[ALL HAIL]

If Gasol were gone, the Lakers would need a guy who could play some PF and some C while also being grade-A defensively (to balance out Lee's lack of) and also being able to shoot (to balance out Bynum's lack of) ... that guy is Rasheed Wallace.

If you don't understand why I have Lee coming off the bench as a back up to the much older Wallace, go read How To Build a Bench. You'll find that I truly believe that you need somem offense coming off your bench, while starting the greater defenders (in most cases).

Lee coming off the bench as a double digit scorer and spark would offer greater balance to the team than having Wallace come off the bench and give you 4 or 5 points a game.

Just my personal preference. I got a little moneyball in me.

Same with World Peace starting over Wright. Wright gives you more scoring spark off the bench while World Peace is the greater defender.

The Lakers wouldn't need Lee or Wright's offense to start games because Kobe, Curry, and Bynum would be all the offense needed in which to start games.

They would however need their offensive spark soming off the bench.

Ya'll neede to stop thinking all the time that your best five start games ...

Your best five FINISH games, and on most nights, that would be Lee and Wright or Arenas.

[hoops_32]

Trade#1
Lakers Trade:Pau Gasol, Steve Blake,Devin Ebanks, 1st Round Pick
Lakers Get:Kyle Lowry,David West, Hasheem Thabeet

Rockets Trade:Kyle Lowry,Kevin Martin,Jordan Hill,Hasheem Thabeet
Rockets Get:Pau Gasol,Steve Blake, Dahntay Jones,1st Round Pick

Pacers Trade:David West,Dahntay Jones
Pacers Get:Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill,Devin Ebanks

Trade#2
Lakers Trade:TPE,1st Round Pick
Lakers Get:Michael Beasley

T-Wolves Trade:Michael Beasley
T-Wolves Get:TPE,1st Round Pick

PG-Lowry/Fisher
SG-Bryant/Barnes
SF-Artest/Beasley
PF-West/Murphy
C-Bynum/McRoberts

[TyCobb]

Lakers trade: Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, and Lakers 1st or Dallas 1st (whichever is better)
Lakers receive: Elton Brand and Jrue Holiday

Utah Jazz trade: Al Jefferson and CJ Miles
Utah Jazz receive: Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks, and Lakers 1st or Dallas 1st (whichever is better)

Phila 76ers trade: Elton Brand and Jrue Holiday
Phila 76ers receive: Al Jefferson, CJ Miles, Darius Morris

[xSABOx]

Two Simple Pau Gasol Trade Ideas

LAL REC: Iguodala, Noc
PHI REC: Gasol, Ebanks

LAL REC: Josh Smith, Hinrich
ATL REC: Gasol, Blake

[0HeadAche0]

I was thinking that Bryant is our 3rd most important player IN MY OPINION and hes the on that needs to be traded.

I know he has a no trade clause so it will be tough to move him, I really believe though that for the team to have any long term longevity as a contender it has to trade him while he has some value, I think there is a small possibility you could sell him on the idea of going to play for the 76ers back to his hometown and be the guy.

I don't think Philly will trade Evan Turner for him but i think they would jump at the chance to get in a legit shot creator and grab the attention of the media by having Kobe in their city.

I reckon a fair trade that works for both teams

LAL Trades - Kobe and Matt Barnes
LAL Receives - Iguodala, Nocioni and Jrue Holiday

So Lakers starting 5 looks like this

Bynum/Murphy
Gasol/Mcroberts
Iguodala/Nocioni
Holiday/Goudelock
Blake/Holiday/Fisher

Philly looks like

Hawes
Brand
Barnes
Bryant
Turner

They then can bring in Young, Williams etc. off the bench

Why the Lakers do this: Initially if this were to happen think the Lakers get better far better at the PG where Holiday can log most of his minutes, might have to play at the 2 until LA can upgrade in the summer and maybe play Iggy there are times. LA get Iguodala who is one of the best defenders in the NBA and can score a bit. A great assister for his position and would be a 4th option on this team setting it up for Gasol and Bynum to be the primary guys, with Holiday taking most of the creating and ball handling load down the stretch, you get a good expiring in Nocioni also In the summer you amnesty Artest for greater Cap Relief, you then look to get in a veteran 2 guardLong term Holiday and Bynum can potentially be a decent 1-2 to build around for 6 or 7 years.

Why the 76ers do this: From an Owners point of view, who wouldnt want the extra attention and money that Kobe would bring to your city? For basketball reasons it works very well too imo, although 76ers lose a good young prospect at point guard and that somewhat hurts their long term view, they get Kobe Bryant, the closer they can go to down the stretch and will give them the added concentrated championship experience that the franchise can elevate their mentality to serious contenders for the next 2 or 3 years. They also get to keep Turner who is the future of that team.

Now obviously the biggest stumbling block is that Kobe would reject this trade (who invented ntc's eh?) and this renders everything i've just written pointless but maybe you can sell him on the idea of him going to a weaker conference/division and play with a team with a better chance to win another ring now, also quietly remind how he can stat pad even more vs the bobcats or wizards even more each year.

The more i look at it though i really dont think the 76ers give away 2 of their starters and an expiring for Bryant, shows how 'unvaluable' a 33 year old being paid 25m for the next 2 years is basketball wise.

[Doormatt]

Lakers trade: Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, and Lakers 1st or Dallas 1st (whichever is better)
Lakers receive: Elton Brand and Jrue Holiday

Utah Jazz trade: Al Jefferson and CJ Miles
Utah Jazz receive: Pau Gasol, Devin Ebanks, and Lakers 1st or Dallas 1st (whichever is better)

Phila 76ers trade: Elton Brand and Jrue Holiday
Phila 76ers receive: Al Jefferson, CJ Miles, Darius Morris

would do it every time, but why wouldnt philly prefer Gasol to that utah package? i dont really see anything enticing about it.

[sweetcity]

Lakers Trades - Pau Gasol + Ebanks + Morris + 2012 1st
Lakers Receive - Josh Smith + Anthony Parker + Ramon Sessions

Lakers get more athletic at the 4, a good 3pt shooting swing, and a PG

Atlanta Trades - Marvin Williams + Josh Smith
Atlanta Receives - Pau Gasol + Lakers 2012 1st

Atlanta gets their own big 3 in Gasol, Joe Johnson, and Al Horford

Cleveland Trades - Ramon Sessions + Anthony Parker
Cleveland Receives - Marvin Williams + Devin Ebanks + Darius Morris

Lakers Trade TPE Minnesota trades Mike Beasley

Lakers

Sessions + Blake + Fisher
Kobe + Goudelock + Kapono
Parker + World Peace + Walton
Smith + Beasley + McRoberts
Bynum + Murphy

[cbrown32]

Fun hypothetical scenario...If it looks like the Magic are going to take their shot at keep Dwight and pass on trading him, the Lakers get desperate and make a last minute move with Washington to set up a potential run at Dwight via Free Agency. (I know the POR/LAL trade can be completely separate but it makes it easier for Trade Machine to just do it all in one).

LAL trades:
-Bynum
-Luke
-Blake
(Incoming: Lewis, McGee, Young & Felton)

WAS trades:
-Lewis
-McGee
-Young
(Incoming: Bynum & Walton)

POR trades:
-Felton
(Incoming: Blake, Odom TPE)

LA can amnesty Lewis or buyout his contract, while the other 3 all have expiring contracts. Gives them financial flexibility (avoids Luxury Tax) and also fixes the PG position for now. This type of financial flexibility would give them the chance to go for Dwight this yr, and D-Will next yr. It also gives them scoring off the bench in Young, and brings back a solid defensive 7 footer to fill the gap defensively for the rest of the yr until he expires and they make their run at Dwight.

WAS can now build around Bynum and Wall, and rids them of McGee who may have worn out his welcome there. It also frees up more run for Jordan Crawford at the 2.

POR has been rumored to want to move Felton, they get the TPE and maybe a 2nd rd pick from the Lakers, along with Blake who has already played there, and can be a sold backup to Crawford who's been favored in the lineup recently.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=72tg6k2

[cbrown32]

This yr:

-Felton/Young/Fish
-Kobe/Young/Goudelock/Kapono
-Artest/Barnes/Ebanks
-Pau/McRoberts
-McGee/Murphy

Next yr:
-Felton (or some other 1yr replacement)
-Kobe
-MWP
-Pau
-Dwight

2 yrs:
-D-Will
-Kobe
-MWP
-Pau
-Dwight

[dockingsched]

ignoring the terrible value the lakers get for bynum, you can't amnesty lewis and even if you buy him out the amount counts against the cap.

also, kobe/pau/mwp take up 54 mil of the 58 mil salary cap.

[cbrown32]

ignoring the terrible value the lakers get for bynum, you can't amnesty lewis and even if you buy him out the amount counts against the cap.

also, kobe/pau/mwp take up 54 mil of the 58 mil salary cap.

Yeah, the return talent is nowhere near Bynum's level, you'd have to have a damn near promise from Dwight that he'd come to LA in the summer and it would still be risky. How come you can't amnesty Lewis?

[cbrown32]

This one could be nice if they're hell bent on trading Pau...

Pau and Ebanks to ATL, Josh Smith and Sessions to LAL, Marvin Williams to CLE.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7n3j356

[dockingsched]

ignoring the terrible value the lakers get for bynum, you can't amnesty lewis and even if you buy him out the amount counts against the cap.

also, kobe/pau/mwp take up 54 mil of the 58 mil salary cap.

Yeah, the return talent is nowhere near Bynum's level, you'd have to have a damn near promise from Dwight that he'd come to LA in the summer and it would still be risky. How come you can't amnesty Lewis?

you can't amnesty lewis cause u can only amnesty player contracts that already were on your roster at the time of the new CBA, so the start of this yr.

as far as a dwight promise, again, kobe/pau/peace take up 54 of the 58 mil cap on their own, which effectively means you are already over the cap. are u suggesting dwight promise to sign for 2.5 mil a yr? if so, whats the point of this trade?

[Jajwanda]

Can we make a thread were we just compile bull offers that are overpriced simply because they involve the Lakers. Just for laughs you know.

-" Hinrich for TPE+1st+Morris or GTFO" from Hotlanta

[Jajwanda]

Also I would do an Ellis+Lee deal in a second. i understand that Ellis is not a PG, but he does all that's asked of a PG in this system (get the ball up the floor, drive off the P and R, and make an entry pass). He is a phenomenal scorer with something to prove (whether he's a winner) and Lee is also a guy that wants to prove he isn't just a stats guy. For Pau I do that deal especially if I can get Wright.